Re: [Vo]:Comment from Dr Mitchell Schwartz on Krivit

2012-02-07 Thread Alain Sepeda
just to say that Krivit just make an article about his mistakes http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2012/02/06/swartz-responds-to-our-reports-about-his-claims/ he recognize them, but also blame of lack of clarity of data at the time he made the claims... maybe should stop calling for conspiracy, and

[Vo]:Dr Mitchell Schwartz- Disingenuous File on Krivit

2012-02-07 Thread Ron Kita
Greetings Vortex, I just noticed this update on Dr Schwartz page: http://world.std.com/~mica/DisingenuousKrivit20072.pdf Ron Kita, Chiralex

[Vo]:Hybrid Stirling ??

2012-02-07 Thread Jones Beene
Assume that Ni-H anomalous heat gain will soon be demonstrated to be the robust kind of energy source that its most fervent supporters (Rossi fanboys) believe that it already is. Never mind that the proof may come from a spin-off competitor- DGT. Assume that this technology easily takes over the

Re: [Vo]:Hybrid Stirling ??

2012-02-07 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Assume that Ni-H anomalous heat gain will soon be demonstrated to be the robust kind of energy source that its most fervent supporters (Rossi fanboys) . . . The term fanboy irks me. Please stop using it. No one here fits that description, and Rossi does

[Vo]:MIT suggest new physical model for condensed matter

2012-02-07 Thread David ledin
MIT suggest new physical model for condensed matter to explain many observations of anomalies in condensed matter systems. they named Fleischmann , Pons and Piantelli but not rossi . http://arxiv.org/pdf/1201.4377.pdf

Re: [Vo]:MIT suggest new physical model for condensed matter

2012-02-07 Thread Daniel Rocha
They were put in gen-ph, arxiv's trashbin. It would be better if they had not sent it. 2012/2/7 David ledin mathematic.analy...@gmail.com MIT suggest new physical model for condensed matter to explain many observations of anomalies in condensed matter systems. they named Fleischmann , Pons

[Vo]:Prediction on Antarctica's buried Lake

2012-02-07 Thread Jones Beene
Antarctica's buried Lake Vostok has supposedly been breached by a Russian team, following an arduous and very expensive effort. http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-205_162-57372465/russian-team-reaches-antarctica s-buried-lake-vostok-say-reports/ Hold the presses. Here is a prediction on what they will

[Vo]:Defkalion Forum - Unfounded Speculation

2012-02-07 Thread Robert Leguillon
While waiting for useful, conclusive information, impatience can lead to data prospecting. http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=11 It seems that forums 11 thru 16 require special permissions. Only f=11 displays a forum name: Associates Corner (Registered users of

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Forum - Unfounded Speculation

2012-02-07 Thread Daniel Rocha
Invisible forums and subforums is something common. Sometimes, to see them, you are required to register on websites. In general, admins and mod uses hidden forums to discuss forum policies. I don't think this is a big deal. 2012/2/7 Robert Leguillon robert.leguil...@hotmail.com While waiting

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Forum - Unfounded Speculation

2012-02-07 Thread Alain Sepeda
ah ah, name have disappeared, like LENR on NI communities site... seems to be talk between engineers and researchers, and business men, far from the memonomenon scientists ;-) 2012/2/7 Robert Leguillon robert.leguil...@hotmail.com While waiting for useful, conclusive information, impatience

Re: [Vo]:Prediction on Antarctica's buried Lake

2012-02-07 Thread Daniel Rocha
Have you see The Stuff? 2012/2/7 Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net Antarctica's buried Lake Vostok has supposedly been breached by a Russian team, following an arduous and very expensive effort. http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-205_162-57372465/russian-team-reaches-antarctica

Re: [Vo]:Prediction on Antarctica's buried Lake

2012-02-07 Thread Robert McKay
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: Have you see The Stuff? Did you mean The Thing ? Rob

Re: [Vo]:Prediction on Antarctica's buried Lake

2012-02-07 Thread Daniel Rocha
Not really! The stuff! Jones was talking about extracting something, lol. 2012/2/7 Robert McKay rob...@mckay.com On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: Have you see The Stuff? Did you mean The Thing ? Rob -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com

RE: [Vo]:MIT suggest new physical model for condensed matter

2012-02-07 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
The key phrase in the abstract is: In the resulting model, there appears a new term in which nuclear transitions are coupled to lattice vibrations. I wonder if Hagelstein has been reading Znidarsic's work? :-) -m -Original Message- From: David ledin

RE: [Vo]:Prediction on Antarctica's buried Lake

2012-02-07 Thread Jones Beene
Daniel, this particular stuff about D2O enrichment via a long-term density reflux mechanism is serious science. I realize that this is not always the case on vortex. No smiley this time. The Stuff . cough.cough . OTOH (as it appears on Wiki) seems to be a low budget horror flick made by the

Re: [Vo]:Prediction on Antarctica's buried Lake

2012-02-07 Thread Guenter Wildgruber
Von: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Gesendet: 17:51 Dienstag, 7.Februar 2012 Betreff: [Vo]:Prediction on Antarctica's buried Lake You heard it first on Vo... Jones --- Not to forget: The Russians are also strong

Re: [Vo]:Prediction on Antarctica's buried Lake

2012-02-07 Thread Daniel Rocha
I haven't thought of a payback! Just a funny thing that I thought :) But I am kind of annoyed by this cheap soap opera that never seem to end. I have hopes for DGT, but I lost on Rossi. His talk about robotic production line, his not talking anymore about wide sale 1MW units, his increasing anger,

Re: [Vo]:Prediction on Antarctica's buried Lake

2012-02-07 Thread zer tte
From what i have read so far they're not expecting much more than pure water, like really pure. They're supposed to be looking for some alien life form but seems to have found none so far. If they are really looking for heavy water, they've got quite a good cover but i don't really see how they

RE: [Vo]:Prediction on Antarctica's buried Lake

2012-02-07 Thread Jones Beene
Yes, indeed. And this raises another issue, which may be what you are alluding to. What if the water in this lake does turn out to be heavily enriched in D2O and in addition, there is found to be an evolved lifeform which has “learned” (i.e. has evolved a biological mechanism) to metabolize the

Re: [Vo]:Prediction on Antarctica's buried Lake

2012-02-07 Thread Guenter Wildgruber
Von: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Gesendet: 19:37 Dienstag, 7.Februar 2012 Betreff: RE: [Vo]:Prediction on Antarctica's buried Lake Yes, indeed. And this raises another issue, which may be what you are alluding to.

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Forum - Unfounded Speculation

2012-02-07 Thread Alain Sepeda
the tittle was not admin forum, but associates cornet... and talk of companies for building and science... mean partners, mean real stuff and not only cash one more evidence that Defkalion is not an Internet Dog Company. and the quick removal mean, that they want to keep quiet and don't want to

RE: [Vo]:Prediction on Antarctica's buried Lake

2012-02-07 Thread Jones Beene
What a surprise. I was not aware that so many people were following this... most of whom, shall we say - already have a conspiracy theory slant. I waded through 20 pages of good and awful postings - without seeing any reference to heavy water, or to life evolved to use it. Have you seen this

Re: [Vo]:Prediction on Antarctica's buried Lake

2012-02-07 Thread Joe Hughes
Yeah - some of those folks definitely go to sleep wearing their tin foil hats. ;) I was posting those links not directly in relation to the heavy water theory but in response to zer tte's: From what i have read so far they're not expecting much more than pure water, like really pure. They're

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:More info on: Making Scientists Seem Human –Through Film

2012-02-07 Thread Guenter Wildgruber
Von: OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com An: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Gesendet: 19:54 Dienstag, 7.Februar 2012 Betreff: [Vo]:More info on: Making Scientists Seem Human –Through Film The Scientific American blog site has more info on

Re: [Vo]:Prediction on Antarctica's buried Lake

2012-02-07 Thread Alan J Fletcher
1. Ice-nine. 2. A sleeping Kraken

Re: [Vo]:Acoustic Fusion Article on the International Business Times

2012-02-07 Thread pagnucco
to this forum. http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/294046/20120207/acoustic-fusion-potentially-g green-inexpensive-virtually-inexhaustible.htm This is fairly well-known group to many of us. Ross Tessien was formerly the head of Impulse Devices, and a poster on this forum many years ago. I do

Re: [Vo]:Prediction on Antarctica's buried Lake

2012-02-07 Thread Guenter Wildgruber
Von: Joe Hughes jhughe...@comcast.net An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Gesendet: 20:55 Dienstag, 7.Februar 2012 Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Prediction on Antarctica's buried Lake Yeah - some of those folks definitely go to sleep wearing their tin foil hats. ;)

Re: [Vo]:Prediction on Antarctica's buried Lake

2012-02-07 Thread Guenter Wildgruber
Von: Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Gesendet: 21:10 Dienstag, 7.Februar 2012 Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Prediction on Antarctica's buried Lake 1. Ice-nine. 2. A sleeping Kraken - Ah, had Vonnegut a scientific bend? Did not know that.

[Vo]:http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/maillist.html

2012-02-07 Thread Alan J Fletcher
I don't see anything since Feb 5 ... has it been suspended so only Big V members can see stuff? http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/maillist.html (lenr.qumbu.com -- analyzing the Rossi/Focardi eCat -- and the defkalion hyperion -- Hi, google!)

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Forum - Unfounded Speculation

2012-02-07 Thread Terry Blanton
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Robert Leguillon robert.leguil...@hotmail.com wrote: Thoughts? There are 3,154 posts in QA and Older Discussions: http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/index.php This was when the forum was open then closed due to too much riffraff and viral s(c)eptic

[Vo]:Idea of Catalyst

2012-02-07 Thread Alain Sepeda
Reading this slideshow http://www.slideshare.net/lewisglarsen/lattice-energy-llctechnical-overviewpahs-and-lenrsnov-25-2009 came the idea that one of the catalyst of Defkalion or of Rossi might be polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (see page 42 and others) adsobed on nickel, to increase field,

RE: [Vo]:Defkalion Forum - Unfounded Speculation

2012-02-07 Thread Robert Leguillon
Defkalion Forum Statistics: * Total posts 5023 * Total topics 526 Discussion Topics: 132 Posts: 1478 General Discussion of Hyperion Specs Topics: 71Posts: 391 QA and Older Discussions Topics: 205 Posts: 3154 1478+391+3154 = 5023 All posts are present and accounted for

Re: [Vo]:Prediction on Antarctica's buried Lake

2012-02-07 Thread Jed Rothwell
Celani et al. already found species adapted to heavy water: Ralstonia detusculanense. http://www.uniprot.org/taxonomy/148618 And one other. See the papers at LENR-CANR.org. This stuff in the heavy water from Ontario Hydro (which I think has a new name). It adapted sometime in the last 50

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Forum - Unfounded Speculation

2012-02-07 Thread Terry Blanton
2012/2/7 Robert Leguillon robert.leguil...@hotmail.com: It's entirely possible that the calculation of Total topics includes topics that have been removed (e.g., SPAM) or moved. From the number of spam posts which create a topic that I have seen, I would say that you are right-on with that

Re: [Vo]:http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/maillist.html

2012-02-07 Thread Terry Blanton
No, it's more likely that the Archive has been unsubscribed. I have copied the list owner so that he might check. T On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 3:44 PM, Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: I don't see anything since Feb 5 ... has it been suspended so only Big V members can see stuff?

RE: [Vo]:Prediction on Antarctica's buried Lake

2012-02-07 Thread Jones Beene
Good point. But this was 50 years to adapt chemically - in order to merely survive. It would surely take much longer to adapt in such a way as to actually derive excess energy from D2O, and almost all experts in biology would say it is impossible. Kervan is controversial and there is

Re: [Vo]:Prediction on Antarctica's buried Lake

2012-02-07 Thread Terry Blanton
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: 1. Ice-nine. 2. A sleeping Kraken 3, Nazi's http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1034314/ T

Re: [Vo]:Prediction on Antarctica's buried Lake

2012-02-07 Thread Guenter Wildgruber
Von: Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Gesendet: 0:20 Mittwoch, 8.Februar 2012 Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Prediction on Antarctica's buried Lake -- 3,  Nazi's http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1034314/ -- As a Nazi descendant  I

Re: [Vo]:Prediction on Antarctica's buried Lake

2012-02-07 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Good point. But this was 50 years to adapt chemically - in order to merely survive. ** ** It would surely take much longer to adapt in such a way as to actually derive excess energy from D2O. . . Sure. Millions of years, I suppose, assuming it

[Vo]:eCat now $600-800

2012-02-07 Thread Andre Blum
FYI On this question: ** Dear Mr. Rossi, So if I understand the recent developments all correctly, the E-Cat has now the following credentials: 1. can be integrated into a existing home heating system 2. has an optional cooling/air-conditioning system 3. could also be expanded with a

[Vo]:Defkalion answers a lot of technical questions

2012-02-07 Thread Alan J Fletcher
http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=5983#p5983 Dave wrote: @Defkalion I am interested in the trigger mechanism for the Hyperion reaction. My definition of trigger is a relatively low energy drive process that causes a large response. This is similar to the trigger for a

Re: [Vo]:MIT suggest new physical model for condensed matter

2012-02-07 Thread Rich Murray
A scientific layman's quick assessment: a gifted theoretical physicist and colleague have been working steadily for years with experimenters -- they carefully studied and rejected many theoretical dead ends for various anomalous phenomena -- finally they started to apply standard theoretical

Re: [Vo]:MIT suggest new physical model for condensed matter

2012-02-07 Thread Terry Blanton
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 8:00 PM, Rich Murray rmfor...@gmail.com wrote: A scientific layman's quick assessment: a gifted theoretical physicist and colleague have been working steadily for years with experimenters -- they carefully studied and rejected many theoretical dead ends for various

[Vo]:DGT Triggering Response

2012-02-07 Thread David Roberson
Defkalion has answered some interesting questions concerning their hyperion device which the collective might want to review. Check out the following link. http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=24t=1038 Dave

Re: [Vo]:DGT Triggering Response

2012-02-07 Thread Axil Axil
This DGT control sequence scenario is consistent with my recently posted control mechanism for coherent proton supercurrent manipulation. In this scenario, the internal heater forms Rydberg atoms which are converted to protons (H+) by the micro powder which then join a growing coherent proton

Re: [Vo]:DGT Triggering Response

2012-02-07 Thread Axil Axil
So sorry…please excuse me, In my last post, the highlighting showing the DGT quote should be as follows: If Hyperion's control/safety electronics and/or the backup safety mechanisms are also killed, then the self distructing mechanism of Hyperion automatically will destroy the inner of all

Re: [Vo]:MIT suggest new physical model for condensed matter

2012-02-07 Thread Rich Murray
more and more, faster and faster, capable professionals will explore this breakthrough, while we amateurs will be left yipping in the yard... On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 8:00 PM, Rich Murray rmfor...@gmail.com wrote: A

Re: [Vo]:MIT suggest new physical model for condensed matter

2012-02-07 Thread Axil Axil
Regarding (emphasis added): These experimental results, and many others, have motivated us to explore new models that might be relevant. A major issue that we have been interested in is the *possibility of coherent energy exchange between quantum systems with mismatched **characteristic

[Vo]:World's best H2 catalyst?

2012-02-07 Thread Mark Goldes
http://www.virtual-strategy.com/2012/02/08/phillips-announces-worlds-best-catalyst-producing-hydrogen-fuel-water Mark Mark Goldes Co-founder, Chava Energy CEO, Aesop Institute 301A North Main Street Sebastopol, CA 95472 www.chavaenergy.com www.aesopinstitute.org

RE: [Vo]:MIT suggest new physical model for condensed matter

2012-02-07 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Axil wrote: There are many new quantum mechanical experiments done recently that show how quantum wells transfer coherence between quantum particle types of all kinds. I just saw one where a photon can spin a tiny quantum wheel...light to mechanical energy. Here's the reference:

RE: [Vo]:MIT suggest new physical model for condensed matter

2012-02-07 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Although not quite the same, here's another one which is quite interesting: Harnessing plasmonics, engineers weld nanowires with light http://www.physorg.com/news/2012-02-harnessing-plasmonics-weld-nanowires.htm l In before-and-after electron-microscope images, individual nanowires are