RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:A bombshell of a different type?
Yes and the alumina reactor reminds me of BLP’s Rayney Ni.. there seems to be an elusive connection between everything from sonoluminesce to Papps noble gas.. SPP/Casimir/zero point… who knows – they may all be different facets of the same principle. Fran From: Eric Walker [mailto:eric.wal...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 10:31 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:A bombshell of a different type? On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 2:08 PM, mix...@bigpond.commailto:mix...@bigpond.com wrote: Something else I just thought of: 17O+6Li = 16O + 7Li + 3.107 MeV I would not be surprised if there were other stripping reactions occurring if Ni(7Li,6Ni)Ni was happening. As a side note, with the introduction of a gas phase precursor (oxygen), this is starting to take is in the direction of Papp's noble gas engine. Eric
Re: [Vo]:Report on Mizuno's Adiabatic Calorimetry revised
Guys, I believe that I have an explanation for the variation in measurements performed by the latest critic and Jed. I have long wondered about the physics of that pump system so I felt like it was time to do a bit of math. Unless I made a major error in calculations, both results make complete sense. The author of the negative report states that he is using pipe that is 1/2 the diameter of the one used by Mizuno. This is the key to the mystery. Consider the following derivation: The pump is rated at 9 liters per minute when the net lifting head is zero. A calculation of the flow rate yields 150 grams/second. i.e. 9 liters/min * 1000 cm^3/liter * 1min/60 seconds=150 cm^3/second. And, 1 gram/cm^3 is understood. The area of the 1 cm inside diameter pipe is pi * r ^2, which in this case is 3.14159 * (.5 cm)^2 = .7854 cm^2. The velocity of the water inside the pipe is 150 cm^3/sec / .7854 cm = 191.02 cm/second. Kinetic energy of the water carries the power into the storage medium so it can be calculated by the reliable formula E=1/2*M*V^2. To get power, you use the amount of water brought up to speed in 1 second. So we have E=1/2 * 150 grams * (191.02 cm/second)^2 = 2.738 x 10^6 gram-cm^2/sec^2 imparted upon the water in each second. These units are in ergs, so to get to joules you multiply it by 10^-7 which yields .2738 joules in each second. This is the definition of .2738 watts. Jed has measured numbers that fall into this range and has confidence in his results. Now our favorite skeptic claims that he is using .5 cm pipe instead of the 1 cm pipe used by Mizuno and does not realize that he is making a major error. But, the area of that pipe is reduced by a factor of 4 since it is exactly 1/2 the inner diameter of the original. With a factor of 4 reduction in area comes an increase in the velocity of the water flowing through it by that factor 4 in order to achieve the same mass flow rate. Every thing else being equal you find that the energy imparted upon the water that is sped up from rest to a velocity that is 4 times that from the first case yields the square of that factor. In which case it is 4^2 which is 16 times. Guess what? .2738 watts * 16 = 4.38 watts. So, the skeptic has verified the measurement performed by Jed! I love it when the math holds up so well. Congratulations Jed, you got it right. Dave -Original Message- From: Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com To: Vortex List vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, Jan 7, 2015 3:51 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Report on Mizuno's Adiabatic Calorimetry revised done, question is if it will be moderated. They won't dare. anyway question now is not to convince, but to deliver to the industry. 2015-01-07 20:39 GMT+01:00 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com: Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote: your last sentence is enough to understand they screw up somewhere. If you would like to send them the last sentence please do so. I do not have the time or the inclination to deal with such people. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Toyota puts fuel cell patents in the public domain
Hi, I think it's a smart move of Toyota. Take note, Toyoto is also aware of wet van de remmende voorsprong, so they need to leap forward somehow or the competition will do it instead. And if Europe and the US are not available as a market due to certification issues they will focus on the Chinese and Indian market. Ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_the_handicap_of_a_head_start Kind regards, Rob Lennart Thornros schreef op 7-1-2015 om 00:49: There is a theoretic business model called the S-curve theory that explains the possibilities and the risk with new technology. The typewriters , the vacuum tubes, the adding machines etc. are good examples. So far I am in agreement with the idea that there is a market changes due to technology. LENR absolute but not now. To dangerous to take such a step. Even if they present a car driven by LENR it would take years to get acceptance. Maybe Toyota is not thinking so well. The first ones to move to new technology seldom prevail. Apple might be good today but that has more to do with the I-phone than their computers of 1984. Texas Instrument are not a major player on the semiconductor market compare 1968. HP had some real early handheld computers did not take them to the front of today's handheld market. Many companies have seen this pattern repeat itself over the years and realize being first or having the patent is not the most important - in most cases. Xerox being the exception that shows validity to me of that statement. Time ago it was the norm, that being first equaled success. The problems with LENR is of course that there is no theory that backs it up. There is nobody driving the development of LENR Rossi is entrepreneurial and his new partner has been very quiet and demonstrated very little leadership. BLP seems more focused on academical result than commercialization. Maybe there are more (better) information out there, which I am unaware of. In such case now is the time to identify the winners and buy shares. I doubt it is Toyota they remind me of IBM. Tesla maybe. Unknown entity is the most likely in my opinion. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros www.StrategicLeadershipSac.com http://www.StrategicLeadershipSac.com lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 202 Granite Park Court, Lincoln CA 95648 “Productivity is never an accident. It is always the result of a commitment to excellence, intelligent planning, and focused effort.” PJM On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 3:15 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net mailto:zeropo...@charter.net wrote: Yes, they funded early LENR work with FP. IIRC, they stopped LENR research for a period of time, but then restarted the effort. You can bet the BoD and C-levels have been kept up-to-date about developments in LENR... -mark iverson -Original Message- From: Bob Cook [mailto:frobertc...@hotmail.com mailto:frobertc...@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 2:47 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Toyota puts fuel cell patents in the public domain Mark's thought also was the first idea that came into my head upon reading Terry's comment. I think they, Toyota, are onto LENR. Let's not forget they hired Pons and Fleishman for research in Nice, France after they left the USA. Bob - Original Message - From: MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net mailto:zeropo...@charter.net To: vortex-l@eskimo.com mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 11:35 AM Subject: RE: [Vo]:Toyota puts fuel cell patents in the public domain Misinformation? Toyota wants to make its competitors think it's going down fuel-cell path when it is really developing LENR-based tech for powering its future fleet... -mark iverson -Original Message- From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 11:12 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Toyota puts fuel cell patents in the public domain -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton Jed Rothwell wrote: I think this is a dead-end technology. It cannot compete with plug-in electric hybrid cars and pure electric vehicles. Toyota and Tesla are nearing the end of sales of the jointly developed RAV4 electric sport utility vehicle after delivering about 2,500 units over more than two years. The two companies are now taking separate paths, with Tesla working to bring the plug-in Model X crossover and a cheaper Model 3 sedan to market. Toyota is preparing to sell its first fuel-cell vehicle, a technology that Tesla’s billionaire co-founder Elon Musk has ridiculed. Bizarre behavior on the part of Toyota unless they are suddenly cowed by the possibility of losing large market
Re: [Vo]:Report on Mizuno's Adiabatic Calorimetry revised
done, question is if it will be moderated. They won't dare. anyway question now is not to convince, but to deliver to the industry. 2015-01-07 20:39 GMT+01:00 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com: Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote: your last sentence is enough to understand they screw up somewhere. If you would like to send them the last sentence please do so. I do not have the time or the inclination to deal with such people. - Jed
[Vo]:Sentencing in Mallove murder
See: http://www.necn.com/news/new-england/Connecticut-Man-Sentenced-in-Murder-of-New-Hampshire-Physicist-287716481.html
Re: [Vo]:Report on Mizuno's Adiabatic Calorimetry revised
the translation is done http://feedly.com/i/subscription/feed/http://gsvit.wordpress.com/feed/ don't kill the messenger Jed ;-) your last sentence is enough to understand they screw up somewhere. 2015-01-07 3:39 GMT+01:00 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com: Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote: I have spoted that GSVIT critic of your position on the Mizuno experiment https://gsvit.wordpress.com/2015/01/05/misura-calorimetrica-sulla-pompa-md-6k-n-utilizzata-da-tadahiko-mizuno/ through google translate it seems to claim that the pump heat about 4W, not 1W I saw that. I think that's the fellow I have been corresponding with. I sent him the calibration curve with the pump only, from p. 25, showing that it is adding roughly 0.4 W, but he did not buy it. It is a little hard to see how Mizuno's device would produce only 1.9 W and 1.6 W in the last two tests if the pump is supplying 4 W. probably you will need a real translation to address the questions. I will not bother. - Jed
[Vo]:Dog Bone design level so far achived
Replicating a system is valuable. It forces one to evaluate every detail of the design of the system. They say that the devil is in the details. In this light, the HOT cat as tested recently is not yet a completely designed stand alone system. First off, the Hot Cat is hard to start up and if not manually controlled and constantly monitored it could possibly explode due to a pressure excursion. The start up procedure is long and complicated. The Hot cat cannot be easily cycled on and off. True, all these system faults could be remedied using a microprocessor controlled automation system using temperature and pressure core readings as variables in a feedback loop.. But such a system would require input of both the temperature and the pressure. The temperature control is provided but the pressure feed back is not yet available. It looks like this pressure feedback is not yet covered in the structural design of the Hot Cat. This is a deep design problem. There is no pressure transducer provisions made at present in the structural design of the core tube. The programming of a microprocessor based controller for the Hot Cat will not be easy. Beside the pressure and temperature considerations, there is the superconducting behavior that was seen in the TPR2 test that might be manifest in a functional LENR system. This behavior might well be seen in the power feed to primary core heater. This behavior will throw a complication into the computer control algorithms. My estimation is that the Hot Cat has a very long design road ahead of it.
Re: [Vo]:Report on Mizuno's Adiabatic Calorimetry revised
Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote: your last sentence is enough to understand they screw up somewhere. If you would like to send them the last sentence please do so. I do not have the time or the inclination to deal with such people. - Jed
[Vo]:one of the best Pd D papers ever written
Dear Friends, The paper presented here today is probably the most advanced experimentally, ever written for PdD: http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2015/01/a-relevant-lenr-classic-paper-for.html I hope it will be thoroughly discussed. I hope even more that my opinion about its relevance and significance is in error. Warm greetings, Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
