Re: [Vo]:Steorn's CEO Posts Overunity Heater Video
These videos have been on Facebook for a while. PESN just posted the article today. On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Esa Ruoho esaru...@gmail.com wrote: Well, it's not my fault you guys haven't been paying attention on the twitterverse. They got up to a 3kW back in march. The commercial product was supposed to be 12kW or 15kW. Then there was a load of silence about it. Yes, it does seem they're accidentally hitting 5th oct when rossi does 6th. On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 12:08 AM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.comwrote: Yeah, sure. And that shows up 1 day before Rossi's tst. 2011/10/5 Esa Ruoho esaru...@gmail.com They've been researching a heater for quite some time. It's not a hey, let's come up with something in a day type of deal. They were at it back in 2010. On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 12:05 AM, vorl bek vorl@antichef.com wrote: http://pesn.com/2011/10/05/9501927_Steorn_CEO_Posts_Overunity_Heater_Video/ You have to admire the tenacity of Steorn: if one thing fails, they try another. -- Frank Acland Publisher, E-Cat World http://www.e-catworld.com Author, The Secret Power Beneath https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/
Re: [Vo]:Look at the BIG PICTURE and you will see this is irrefutable proof
I don't know if Rossi would consider them false starts. From what he has said in the past it seems that cycling the input on and off is now standard operating procedure to run the E-Cat in a stable mode. He has said that in commercial models this cycling will be automated. On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.comwrote: On 2011-10-10 01:12, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote: In any case, it looks to me as if Rossi had three false starts before he finally hit pay dirt on the fourth crank. I haven't thought of this before, but after pondering a bit about it I believe it really might have been the case. I wonder if Rossi himself could confirm this. It would make the experiment outcome even more positive if he did, in my opinion. Cheers, S.A. -- Frank Acland Publisher, E-Cat World http://www.e-catworld.com Author, The Secret Power Beneath https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/
Re: [Vo]:Why has Rossi to build a 1MW plant?
Remember, he was initially going to build it for Defkalion GT. Perhaps that is what Defklalion, the first customer, ordered. He started building it and then cancelled the contract and now he has a 1MW plant on his hands. So maybe he just decided to keep going. On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.dewrote: He always said he /has/ to build a 1 MW plant. Why /had/ he to do this, when he had no written contract? The only explanation I can think about, is, he has to do this because he already purchased the material (without having a contract to sell it). Maybe he got the boxes in a fortunate deal on industrial ebay for almost nothing and now /has/ to sell them? Maybe he bought this when he strongly believed, he can build working ecats, but the research was unfinished at this time? Who knows -- Frank Acland Publisher, E-Cat World http://www.e-catworld.com Author, The Secret Power Beneath https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/
Re: [Vo]:National Instruments signs to do E-Cat controls
Jed, there is a point when it is good for a company to be seen to be at the forefront of a new technological movement. Maybe they have reached a comfort level about the E-Cat now.where they can publicly say they are on board with Rossi. If and when widespread validation comes NI will be in a good position business-wise. Frank On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Michele Comitini michele.comit...@gmail.com wrote: Ergo, se National Instrument èh uscita allo scoperto adesso, significa che anche loro hanno escluso l'ipotesi (campata in aria) della bufala. Ergo, if Nat. Instr. came out now, it means that they too excluded the (too far fetched) hoax hypothesis. The meaning of this English is a little unclear. I guess it means: Ergo, if National Instruments has come out now, it means that the people at National Instruments have excluded the hoax hypothesis, which has now become too far-fetched to be believed. I think that conclusion is reasonable. They would not allow a press release of this nature if they suspected the machine might be a scam. I expect they did careful due diligence checks. A large corporation like that is very concerned about its public image. It would not want to be identified with a scam in any way. I suppose they're still hedging their bets, in case the machine turns out to be irreproducible or dangerous. I guess that is why they say things such as: I would love for him to be right. We support every kind of research for the betterment of human kind. Whoever is interested in doing that, we would be happy to support. It is unclear to me when they said that. This could refer to the situation as it stood months ago. Perhaps they are now fully convinced? That could be why they authorized the press release and came out. If Fioravanti is legitimate and they know that (because he works for them, let us say) they now have certain proof that the thing is real. I expect NI is run by engineers. No sane engineer would dispute those results, if he was sure Fioravanti is telling the truth. - Jed -- Frank Acland Publisher, E-Cat World http://www.e-catworld.com Author, The Secret Power Beneath https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/
Re: [Vo]:A big company makes a public bid for an ecat.
Not exactly a big company, but a legitimate one. http://www.manta.com/c/mmjrhjq/sutherland-products-inc http://www.charliesoap.com/ On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 6:10 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: Charlie Sutherland November 14th, 2011 at 10:36 AM Dear Mr. Rossi, We make GREEN detergents and are growing even in these dangerous economic times. My company relies on GREEN technology and a GREEN aware customer base. Our customer distribution reaches all 50 states and several countries in Europe and the Far East I have a mfg plant and warehouse to heat. Not only would your e-cat devices save me money, but the advertising value of our using your technology would greatly increase our sales and spread information about your company to many parts of the world. We hope we can afford to get involved at this early stage of development. Charlie Sutherland Sutherland Products, Inc. Mayodan, NC USA # Andrea Rossi November 14th, 2011 at 1:23 PM Dear Charlie Sutherland: Please contact i...@leonardocorp1996.com Warm Regards, A.R. -- Frank Acland Publisher, E-Cat World http://www.e-catworld.com Author, The Secret Power Beneath https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/
Re: [Vo]:Andrea Rossi replies to Nobel prize winner Brian Josephson (Focus.it)
Rossi is consistent in this stance. He seems to respect Josephson, but not changing for him. On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.comwrote: On 2011-11-23 20:06, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint wrote: Akira: Just want to thank you for taking time to monitor what's being said at various websites and then taking time to update the Vort Collective... it is much appreciated! It's not hard work at all - If you know where to look! Cheers, S.A. -- Frank Acland Publisher, E-Cat World http://www.e-catworld.com Author, The Secret Power Beneath https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/
Re: [Vo]:Hyperion product range?
This comes from the DGT profile on their site : http://www.defkalion-energy.com/White_Paper_DGT.pdf On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 8:21 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat aussieguy.e...@gmail.comwrote: http://peakoil.com/forums/the-**cold-fusion-thread-pt-3-** merged-t63441-450.html#**p1091080http://peakoil.com/forums/the-cold-fusion-thread-pt-3-merged-t63441-450.html#p1091080 Hyperion products have different configurations, most notably: Series A: Single tube single module CHP: with this configuration, 5-10Kw heat power will be released to operate micro-CHP/micro turbine configurations Series B: Multi tube single module CHP: with this configuration, multiples of 5 or 10Kw heat power (max 30kW) can be integrated in the same box, when product has to operate (heat) bigger CHP/micro-CHP or steam turbine configurations Series C: Single tube single module heat only: with this configuration, 5-10Kw heat power will be released to operate small steam or hot water demands such as agricultural applications (green houses) Series D: Multi tube single module heat only: with this configuration, multiples of 5Kw heat power can be integrated in the same box , when product has to produce substantial amounts of heat for energy demanding applications Series E: Single or multi tube modules in parallel: to meet the energy demands of big industrial installations in the megawatt range. Such products consists of arrays of A, B, or D series rack-mounted Series F: Single or multi tube modules in series: to provide power in different configurations All kilowatt range products have the following dimensions: 55x45x35cm Have asked the poster for his source. AG -- Frank Acland Publisher, E-Cat World http://www.e-catworld.com Author, The Secret Power Beneath https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/
Re: [Vo]:video from NASA about lenr (cold fusion)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxeKeuh_2Bw It's been uploaded onto YT now. On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 6:50 AM, Energy Liberator energylibera...@gmail.com wrote: For some reason the technologygateway.nasa.gov site is not loading for me. It just times out. It's been doing that all morning. Is there another link to this video on another site? video from NASA about lenr (cold fusion) http://technologygateway.nasa.**gov/media/CC/lenr/lenr.htmlhttp://technologygateway.nasa.gov/media/CC/lenr/lenr.html -- Frank Acland Publisher, E-Cat World http://www.e-catworld.com Author, The Secret Power Beneath https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/
Re: [Vo]:Interesting new video from ecat.com
I haven't been able to find any place where Rossi said that the 1MW plant was taken away by the customer. Nor can I find anywhere where he states that the unit was going to the USA. All he has confirmed publicly, as far as I can gather, is that it was a military entity who made the purchase. Since the Oct 28 demo he says he has worked with Dominico Fioravanti on the electrical generation issue and also on installing new NI instrumentation. I'm guessing all this work was done at the Bologna factory. On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 6:35 AM, Energy Liberator energylibera...@gmail.com wrote: But was it actually Rossi that said that or was it interpreted as that by a reporter, blogger, or some other party? I find that so much gets misinterpreted and misreported due to reports not always originating from original sources that it's difficult to keep track of what's really true and what's been misreported or lost in translations. I don't recall him actually ever saying that the plant shipped to the customer. I accept that I may be wrong. If you have a link, please post it. I'll need to do a search to see if I can find anything. On 19/01/12 12:13, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: EL, Rossi stated the plant did ship to his US customer and he attended to do the install. AG On 19/01/2012 5:45 PM, Energy Liberator wrote: Perhaps the original 1MW plant never shipped to the customer's location as the customer wanted it fixed before shipping, i.e. the leaking gaskets, the control system etc. As I recall Rossi never said the unit was delivered to the customer's premises although I could be wrong on this. -- Frank Acland Publisher, E-Cat World http://www.e-catworld.com Author, The Secret Power Beneath https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/
Re: [Vo]:Interesting new video from ecat.com
Good find, AG. Thanks for the correction. On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 6:56 AM, Aussie Guy E-Cat aussieguy.e...@gmail.comwrote: Wolf, On 30 Oct 2011, Andrea Rossi said the 1 MW plant had been shipped to the customer and he was building the next 1 MW plant in a new container. http://www.journal-of-nuclear-**physics.com/?p=510cpage=27#** comment-106637http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=510cpage=27#comment-106637 Andrea Rossi October 30th, 2011 at 2:15 PM Dear Luke Mortensen: 1- yes 2- yes 3- yes. gaskets 4- different 5- Miami (Fl), Boston (Ma), Manchester (N.H.) Warm Regards, A.R. Luke Mortensen October 30th, 2011 at 12:54 PM Dear Andrea, 1. Is the 1MW container gone? 2. Have you started building another 1MW in another container? 3. Any improvements you want in version 2? 4. Will the buyer of the next 1MW container be the same customer or a different customer? 5. What city will you be working (hiring) in the US? Best wishes, Luke Mortensen AG On 19/01/2012 10:38 PM, Wolf Fischer wrote: AG, Can you give us a link where he said that? I can't find any except for some websites (not directly related to Rossi) which say so. Wolf -- Frank Acland Publisher, E-Cat World http://www.e-catworld.com Author, The Secret Power Beneath https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/
Re: [Vo]:Interesting new video from ecat.com
I emailed Andrea Rossi this morning about this issue and recieved the following supply: Of course there has been a misunderstanding due to my bad translation. The 1 MW plant has been accepted and sold ( hence gone) but it remained in our factory of Bologna for fixings and for National Instruments improvements of the control systems. Warm Regards, A.R. On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 9:00 AM, Aussie Guy E-Cat aussieguy.e...@gmail.comwrote: EL, Yup. The BBB never moved, was never gone, was never shipped, was never returned, is not currently operational and is not in testing despite what Rossi has claimed. Also that facility is not heated with an E-Cat. Is there another facility that is making fully functional E-Cat, has a production line, has an advanced RD facility and the US customer has one of these units? Maybe. But we have no proof of that. All we need is ONE photograph of another E-Cat on a production. Rossi claims to be making another 13. Why not post a photo of that line? Will that give away trade secrets? Instead what we get is a video of the 28 Oct BBB. Is that all Rossi has to show? If so I have wasted a lot of my and my companies time and money. AG On 20/01/2012 12:47 AM, Energy Liberator wrote: It's obvious that there is not much going on in that workshop. -- Frank Acland Publisher, E-Cat World http://www.e-catworld.com Author, The Secret Power Beneath https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/
Re: [Vo]:Interesting new video from ecat.com
I wrote just this morning. It was 7:17 a.m. US central time. On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 9:30 AM, Wolf Fischer wolffisc...@gmx.de wrote: Frank, Thanks for the info! Just for verification: When did you write Rossi the Mail and when was has this same interpretation been posted here on vortex? There was a user which thought of the same interpretation... Wolf I emailed Andrea Rossi this morning about this issue and recieved the following supply: Of course there has been a misunderstanding due to my bad translation. The 1 MW plant has been accepted and sold ( hence gone) but it remained in our factory of Bologna for fixings and for National Instruments improvements of the control systems. Warm Regards, A.R. On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 9:00 AM, Aussie Guy E-Cat aussieguy.e...@gmail.com wrote: EL, Yup. The BBB never moved, was never gone, was never shipped, was never returned, is not currently operational and is not in testing despite what Rossi has claimed. Also that facility is not heated with an E-Cat. Is there another facility that is making fully functional E-Cat, has a production line, has an advanced RD facility and the US customer has one of these units? Maybe. But we have no proof of that. All we need is ONE photograph of another E-Cat on a production. Rossi claims to be making another 13. Why not post a photo of that line? Will that give away trade secrets? Instead what we get is a video of the 28 Oct BBB. Is that all Rossi has to show? If so I have wasted a lot of my and my companies time and money. AG On 20/01/2012 12:47 AM, Energy Liberator wrote: It's obvious that there is not much going on in that workshop. -- Frank Acland Publisher, E-Cat World http://www.e-catworld.com Author, The Secret Power Beneath https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/ -- Frank Acland Publisher, E-Cat World http://www.e-catworld.com Author, The Secret Power Beneath https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/
Re: [Vo]:FYI: National Intruments (NI) LENR group disapear
It did get a lot of attention, and probably many people asked to join. I see NI uses Jive software, and it's easy to make a group secret. It may still be there, but cannot be found. On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.comwrote: note that https://decibel.ni.com/content/groups/lenr the LENR community at NI seems having disapeared... hidden or suppressed? -- Frank Acland Publisher, E-Cat World http://www.e-catworld.com Author, The Secret Power Beneath https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/
Re: [Vo]:defkalion considering to leave Greece (?)
Jed, on your point 2 -- to me they seem not be saying they base their claims on the cold fusion experiments of others. They said NASA, US Navy, publicly traded companies from America, Canada, Germany and England and universities abroad* have visited us and have turned their attention to our achievements. * * * From this rather poor translation, it seems that DGT are saying that they have got the attention of important visitors -- but they can't get investments operating out of Greece. Best, Frank On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com wrote: To put it bluntly, it looks like a last call for potential investors, implicitly urging them to hurry and take advantage of this opportunity before DGTG will go elsewhere. This statement gives me a bad impression as well, for two reasons: 1. The letter seems to be saying the Greek government should subsidize them or they will leave. It says, . . . while not receiving any government support on our efforts, so far on our vision Greece was first. It is hard to imagine the Greek government is in a position to subsidize anything at the moment. Certainly not a controversial claim such as cold fusion! If their business plan is predicated on getting help from the Greek government I think it will fail. 2. They are invoking cold fusion experiments at NASA, US Navy, publicly traded companies from America as proof of their own claims. The experiments at NASA, the Navy and elsewhere are very different from those claimed by Defkalion. I am willing to give Defkalion the benefit of the doubt because I know that cold fusion exists, but they will have to publish independent proof of their claims before I will have confidence that this particular version of cold fusion is real, and not experimental error. Their claims are reportedly quite different from Rossi's. So Defkalion cannot even invoke Rossi's tests as proof. Those tests were very poorly done, in any case. Rossi's tests would be a weak reed even if Defkalion claimed they have an exact copy of his reactor. - Jed -- Frank Acland Publisher, E-Cat World http://www.e-catworld.com Author, The Secret Power Beneath https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/
Re: [Vo]:RE: Steorn HephaHeat
Thanks Craig Nice find there -- glad to see Steorn keeping going. On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 12:12 AM, Craig Brown cr...@overunity.co wrote: Steorn In 50 million Euros HephaHeat Bonanza http://truthfall.com/steorn-in-e50-million-a-year-hephaheat-bonanza/ -- Frank Acland Publisher, E-Cat World http://www.e-catworld.com Author, The Secret Power Beneath https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/
Re: [Vo]:Report in US News not bad
US News and World Report was once one of the big 3 US news magazines, along with Time and Newsweek. A few years ago, circulation declines let to the magazine going to a biweekly, or maybe even monthly publication, so it is not as big a name as it used to be -- but it would still be considered a mainstream publication. Best, Frank On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 6:53 PM, Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.comwrote: On 2012-08-08 19:08, Jed Rothwell wrote: See: http://www.usnews.com/news/**blogs/at-the-edge/2012/08/08/** new-burst-of-energy-could-**bring-cold-fusion-to-front-**burnerhttp://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/at-the-edge/2012/08/08/new-burst-of-energy-could-bring-cold-fusion-to-front-burner How popular / mainstream is that site? And what about oilprice.com? I've read it cover some Rossi news a couple times over the past year, but it appears Celani's demo at NIWeek triggered their interested too: http://oilprice.com/**Alternative-Energy/Nuclear-** Power/Yet-Another-Successful-**LENR-Device-Enters-the-Race.**htmlhttp://oilprice.com/Alternative-Energy/Nuclear-Power/Yet-Another-Successful-LENR-Device-Enters-the-Race.html Cheers, S.A. -- Frank Acland Publisher, E-Cat World http://www.e-catworld.com Author, The Secret Power Beneath https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/
Re: [Vo]:Link to live stream from E-cat convention
I will put up the report on E-Cat World as soon as this evening's presentation is over. On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 4:11 PM, Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: Initial report will be posted on ecat/Deutschland facebook (registration required): http://www.facebook.com/groups/356965204380137/ Presumably it will be on peswiki pretty soon. ps : He's on page 50 of his presentation .. must be past midnight in Zurich. -- Frank Acland Publisher, E-Cat World http://www.e-catworld.com Author, The Secret Power Beneath https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/
Re: [Vo]:Link to live stream from E-cat convention
Link to report: http://www.e-catworld.com/2012/09/high-temperature-e-cat-report-published/ On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: It's over 2012/9/8 Frank Acland ecatwo...@gmail.com I will put up the report on E-Cat World as soon as this evening's presentation is over. On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 4:11 PM, Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: Initial report will be posted on ecat/Deutschland facebook (registration required): http://www.facebook.com/groups/356965204380137/ Presumably it will be on peswiki pretty soon. ps : He's on page 50 of his presentation .. must be past midnight in Zurich. -- Frank Acland Publisher, E-Cat World http://www.e-catworld.com Author, The Secret Power Beneath https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/ -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com -- Frank Acland Publisher, E-Cat World http://www.e-catworld.com Author, The Secret Power Beneath https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/
Re: [Vo]:Another Rossi error?
I am pretty sure the decimal in the first number should be a comma. Rossi is mixing up numbering conventions. On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: ** ** ** ** *From:* David Roberson ** ** It looks as though he used the conversion factor of .0001 to convert the square centimeters to square meters which is a valid calculation. I wonder why he does not include the area of the end caps in his calculation? Do you suppose he wants to be conservative on this one? [image: ;-)] ** ** The data is hard to interpret as usual for Rossi, but the numbers look pretty good as a start. ** ** Dave What about the “*COP* of 3.268/278.4 = 11.7 (eleven point seven)” That is “according to Rossi”… or is this too a translation error, or in need of a conversion factor ? Can Rossi really be this big of a fool ? Or is there a new revision (of the prior revision) that corrects all of this silliness? -Original Message- From: Jones Beene Amidst all the hoopla over Rossi's recent hot-cat claims, and the first retraction - and the notable lack calibration data, or lack of real data - did Rossi also make a devastating math error? ** ** Last night, in the comments - it looks like Ahern suggests that Rossi's own calculations are off by four orders of magnitude. The Stephan-Boltzmann calculation involve multiplying by the surface are in meters squared It should be 0.0891 (m^2) not 891 (cm^2). Someone else then implies Rossi made the correction, but he seems to make a similar error. ** ** http://www.e-catworld.com/2012/10/update-andrea-rossi-provides-corrected-por denone-hot-cat-report/ ** ** I'm not so sure if there is a real error or not at this stage; since it is far from clear what Rossi is doing in these calculations: can anyone defend Rossi's math and explain what he is doing in the Energy Produced calculation ? ** ** After all - if he is getting a COP of 11 at 1000 degrees, then it should only take a few weeks to close the loop by converting that heat to electricity. ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** -- Frank Acland Publisher, E-Cat World http://www.e-catworld.com Author, The Secret Power Beneath https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/
Re: [Vo]:Another Rossi error?
Another typo, I'm afraid. The hot-cat-data file was an addendum to the validation report Rossi presented in Zurich -- the test was done on July 16, 2012. Both these files are in my Scribd account where I have uploaded various documents . On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: ** ** *From:* Patrick Ellul ** ** Rossi's numbers in a spreadsheet: http://www.scribd.com/doc/109919735/Rossi-Validation ** ** There is a data file on this linked page called “hot-cat-data”: ** ** http://www.scribd.com/doc/105325449/Hot-Cat-Data ** ** The assumption seems to be that this is the data in question but maybe not. ** ** Problem is – this is 15 months old – from July 2011 ** ** If one waited to try to validate data via IR blackbody assumptions - which data had been available for over a year, and if the COP was really anywhere close to 11+, as claimed - then is it not fair to ask – *why not validate by closing the loop* instead of a method that is even more suspect than the prior “wet steam” fiasco? ** ** Closing the loop will essentially “stuff it down the throats” of skeptics and make Rossi an instant billionaire. That’s a pretty good incentive for an egotist like AR. ** ** Here are quite a few small turbines with more than enough efficiency to easily close the loop at 1000C. ** ** http://www.infinityturbine.com/ORC/IT10_ORC_System_For_Sale.html ** ** -- Frank Acland Publisher, E-Cat World http://www.e-catworld.com Author, The Secret Power Beneath https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/
Re: [Vo]:Netherlands food exports
Here's an interesting page with video of a Dutch indoor farming project. All light comes from LEDs. http://singularityhub.com/2011/08/14/dutch-plantlab-revolutionizes-farming-no-sunlight-no-windows-less-water-better-food/ On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: I like the high-tech approach to agriculture, but the hazmat suites and the water sterilization seem a little anachronistic -- like a 1960s take on what the future will be like. Apparently it reduces spoilage. They do not do anything there by accident or without careful testing. NHK says government and industry is pouring money into the technology. They say it has been revolutionized since the 1990s, with a tremendous increase in output and reduction in spoilage. The view here in California looks a little different, with the farmers' markets and the locavore movement -- people are wanting food to be less high-tech rather than more high tech. My guess is that people will say they want one thing but they will buy another. What they want in Europe and Japan is cheap but tasty food without blemishes. Organic food does not sell well in Japan because, for example, oranges are blemished with insect bites and they are of different sizes and shapes. - Jed -- Frank Acland Publisher, E-Cat World http://www.e-catworld.com Author, The Secret Power Beneath https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/
Re: [Vo]:Elforsk publish a perspective mini magazine, with E-cat among the stars
This will take you to the original Swedish document http://www.elforsk.se/Global/Trycksaker%20och%20broschyrer/elforsk_perspektiv_nr2_2013.pdf On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 7:38 PM, Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: -- *From: *Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com *Sent: *Tuesday, October 22, 2013 5:21:22 PM Thanks for posting this. Do you know where the original Swedish document is? http://www.lenr-forum.com/attachment.php?s=6bf9aec8478c3175b2342cabf9c36a65attachmentid=95d=1382468657 Needs registration -- I didn't get it. -- Frank Acland Publisher, E-Cat World http://www.e-catworld.com
Re: [Vo]:Rossi Long-term test : LONG WAIT (Aug/Sep 2014)
I think this is the same image: http://cdn.physorg.com/newman/gfx/news/hires/2013/rossitests2.jpg On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Rob Dingemans manonbrid...@aim.com wrote: Dear Alan, On 6-11-2013 18:11, Alan Fletcher wrote: Is this the Ragone diagram you stand by? http://b-i.forbesimg.com/markgibbs/files/2013/05/130520_ragone_04-1024 ×624.png I'm afraid the file is not there anymore, as I get an 404 error. Kind regards, Rob -- Frank Acland Publisher, E-Cat World http://www.e-catworld.com
Re: [Vo]:E-cat world reports two companies connected with Rossi
I don't think TomDarden's a billionaire, Jed. It just so happens that there is a link to the World's Billionaires above his profile page on Forbes. He's currently the CEO of Cherokee Investment Partners in Raleigh, NC. He worked at Bain Capital in the 1980s. On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Here is the article that connects Rossi, Fabiani and someone named Darden in the Research Triangle in North Carolina: http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/01/examining-the-rossi-industrial-heat-cherokee-connection/ Darden is evidently a billionaire with connections to Bain Capital. http://www.forbes.com/profile/thomas-darden/ The Chinese are involved. It has all the makings of a third-class drugstore paperback thriller. - Jed -- Frank Acland Publisher, E-Cat World http://www.e-catworld.com
Re: [Vo]:Mats Lewan book : An Impossible Invention
I bought the ebook today for around $15 with the current exchange rate. It's a good read, and gives a lot of interesting details about the origins and development of the E-Cat. For me it was well worth the cost. On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: Andrea Rossi April 2nd, 2014 at 6:15 AMhttp://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=841cpage=5#comment-935608 TO THE READERS OF THE JoNP: Today has been presented the book of the scientific journalist Mats Lewan An Impossible Invention: it is professional, honest and sincere as his Author. For those interested, the contact is animpossibleinvention.com Andrea Rossi Paperback about $27, ebook $19 Chapter 1 online (lenr.qumbu.com -- analyzing the Rossi/Focardi eCat -- and the defkalion hyperion -- Hi, google!) -- Frank Acland Publisher, E-Cat World http://www.e-catworld.com
Re: [Vo]:Presentation on LENR at University of Northern Iowa
They were transferred to a different YT Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCg2CnlyLH4chZUHdvOf91xw On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 3:54 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: The videos have been removed. On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 7:18 PM, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: The University of Northern Iowa presents LENR The Promise of clean and affordable Energy March 10, 2014 Thomas A. Wind is an electrical engineer who has worked on many wind generation projects but over the last two years has become really interested in LENR. Intro LENR Wind 3:34 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvLGeiG9lWg Part 1 Origins of LENR ... Twenty-Year History of Lattice-Enabled 22:54 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUBMtBar9JE Part 2 Rossi's LENR Technology 15:37 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naRYEFoPCAo Part 3 Descriptions and Affirmations of LENR 7:51 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNqh7MG-zhM Part 4 Other LENR Examples and Comparison to Hot Fusion 18:34 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ONegbxuL_g Part 5 Challenges and Future Uses of LENR 10:55 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNe0W8YjoQk Harry -- Frank Acland Publisher, E-Cat World http://www.e-catworld.com
Re: [Vo]:Polarized ECat Testers
Sorry, I just found this thread -- I didn't realize there was such controversy going on. The term 'polarized opinions' was in reference to people on the outside -- not among the testers. Frank On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 9:26 PM, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: It seems there are polarized opinions on the meaning of 'polarized opinions'. From the standpoint of an optimist it could mean the polarized opinions of the outside world, but from the standpoint of a pessimist it could mean the polarized opinions of the testers. Someone could ask Frank Acland to clarify the meaning. Harry On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 10:05 PM, Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com wrote: Dave, you and I picked up on the most important phrase that others seems to have missed - Polarized Opinions. This by itself has got to refer to opinions of the testers, not the outside world. For why would the polarized opinions of the outside world suddenly make a difference in the release of the TIP2 report? The outside world opinion has always been polarized since the beginning, why make a difference now? especially in the context of the TIP2 release date? Jojo - Original Message - *From:* David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com *Sent:* Thursday, August 21, 2014 5:28 AM *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Polarized ECat Testers Jojo, I hope you are wrong about your conclusion. It does concern me by the expression of Polarized opinions. Best case is for them to be referring to how the device operates instead of how well it works. Dave -Original Message- From: Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, Aug 20, 2014 11:29 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Polarized ECat Testers Sure, you can be optimistic and read it that way; but it seems clear in the context of the statements, that the Polarized opinions is the reason. Reason for what? reason for not giving pre-statements about a timing or content of the report. Why would any polarized outside opinion be the reason for any delay in the timing of the release? or affect the content of the report? It seems clear. The testers can not agree on what to write. This can only mean some think it is positive, some think it is negative. They can't agree like a hang jury. Jojo - Original Message - From: Alan Fletcher a...@well.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 11:20 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Polarized ECat Testers From: Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 8:07:08 AM http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/08/20/e-cat-report-watch-thread/ As reported in e-catworld. It seems the TIP2 testers are having a lot of disagreements; hence the delay in the release of the report. This does not bode well for the ECat. I have been one of a few that think too many warning flags have been seen lately regarding the ECat. Chances of it being a Scam has increased. I don't read it that way --- The response I received was that they realize there is a great amount of interest in the report, but that because of polarized opinions surrounding the LENR and E-Cat, it was not advisable to give any pre-statements about the content of timing or the report. The polarized opinions are those in the outside world, not within the team - which wants to get it right. And, quite correctly, say nothing to nobody until the report's out. -- Frank Acland Publisher, E-Cat World http://www.e-catworld.com
Re: [Vo]:Polarized ECat Testers
No, nothing about that. On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 11:30 PM, Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the clarification Frank. Did the tester indicate to you privately the reason for the delay, even if it is something they don't want to say in public? Jojo - Original Message - *From:* Frank Acland ecatwo...@gmail.com *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com *Sent:* Thursday, August 21, 2014 11:45 AM *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Polarized ECat Testers Sorry, I just found this thread -- I didn't realize there was such controversy going on. The term 'polarized opinions' was in reference to people on the outside -- not among the testers. Frank On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 9:26 PM, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: It seems there are polarized opinions on the meaning of 'polarized opinions'. From the standpoint of an optimist it could mean the polarized opinions of the outside world, but from the standpoint of a pessimist it could mean the polarized opinions of the testers. Someone could ask Frank Acland to clarify the meaning. Harry On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 10:05 PM, Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com wrote: Dave, you and I picked up on the most important phrase that others seems to have missed - Polarized Opinions. This by itself has got to refer to opinions of the testers, not the outside world. For why would the polarized opinions of the outside world suddenly make a difference in the release of the TIP2 report? The outside world opinion has always been polarized since the beginning, why make a difference now? especially in the context of the TIP2 release date? Jojo - Original Message - *From:* David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com *Sent:* Thursday, August 21, 2014 5:28 AM *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Polarized ECat Testers Jojo, I hope you are wrong about your conclusion. It does concern me by the expression of Polarized opinions. Best case is for them to be referring to how the device operates instead of how well it works. Dave -Original Message- From: Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, Aug 20, 2014 11:29 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Polarized ECat Testers Sure, you can be optimistic and read it that way; but it seems clear in the context of the statements, that the Polarized opinions is the reason. Reason for what? reason for not giving pre-statements about a timing or content of the report. Why would any polarized outside opinion be the reason for any delay in the timing of the release? or affect the content of the report? It seems clear. The testers can not agree on what to write. This can only mean some think it is positive, some think it is negative. They can't agree like a hang jury. Jojo - Original Message - From: Alan Fletcher a...@well.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 11:20 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Polarized ECat Testers From: Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 8:07:08 AM http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/08/20/e-cat-report-watch-thread/ As reported in e-catworld. It seems the TIP2 testers are having a lot of disagreements; hence the delay in the release of the report. This does not bode well for the ECat. I have been one of a few that think too many warning flags have been seen lately regarding the ECat. Chances of it being a Scam has increased. I don't read it that way --- The response I received was that they realize there is a great amount of interest in the report, but that because of polarized opinions surrounding the LENR and E-Cat, it was not advisable to give any pre-statements about the content of timing or the report. The polarized opinions are those in the outside world, not within the team - which wants to get it right. And, quite correctly, say nothing to nobody until the report's out. -- Frank Acland Publisher, E-Cat World http://www.e-catworld.com -- Frank Acland Publisher, E-Cat World http://www.e-catworld.com
Re: [Vo]:New Rossi Patent Appln..publishes Today
Maybe Industrial Heat is using the USPTO's fast track service for this one: http://www.uspto.gov/patents/init_events/Track_One.jsp On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 7:37 AM, Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like there are three related patents filed last year in May. I wonder when we'll seem them pop up. Also, why did this patent show up already? It was only filed in april of this year. *Application Number**Filing Date**Patent Number*61818553May 2, 2013 61819058May 3, 201361821914May 10, 2013 On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 4:22 AM, Ron Kita chiralex.k...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings Vortex-L, http://appft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2Sect2=HITOFFu=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-adv.htmlr=1p=1f=Gl=50d=PG01S1=20140326711.PGNR.OS=DN%2F20140326711RS=DN%2F20140326711 Ad Astra, Ron Kita, Chiralex Doylestown PA -- Frank Acland Publisher, E-Cat World http://www.e-catworld.com
Re: [Vo]:New web page Andrea-Rossi.com
Rossi said on the Journal of Nuclear Physics today: These photos, published on my personal website, have been made months ago in Raleigh’s factory, during the final phases of the manufacturing . On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 3:21 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: I, of course, meant world-wide patent disclosure. And, no, of course he hasn't disclosed in a patent or otherwise. If he'd disclosed we'd know about it. On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 3:16 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: The video at the andrea-rossi.com site: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzZmPkBqaJ0#t=81 states a blatant faleshood -- to wit that Rossi distributed his protocol to the world. If he'd done that, there would have been no excuse for denying him a patent. I do not understand what you mean. If he had distributed his protocol to the world, he would not be able to get a patent. Unless he filed for patent first, I guess. Anyway, he is not distributed it as far as I know. - Jed -- Frank Acland Publisher, E-Cat World http://www.e-catworld.com
Re: [Vo]:How could we collect ideas and knowledge on engineering of LENR devices?
Mats, I hope that in time the the ECW LENR Knowledge Base would be useful for the kind of thing you are discussing. We certainly want to have information about LENR engineering included. The Wiki structure using MediaWiki software is familiar and quite flexible, and allows for searching capabilities. It's not organized like a discussion forum or email list, but there is the capability for discussion on every article on the site in the talk section. Right now there are just a very few people active in creating content -- and we've only just started, so it's rather limited so far. I hope in time that number of contributors will increase. Anyone interesting in getting involved in editing the KB, please email me at ecatwo...@gmail.com, and I'll get you set up with an account. Best, Frank On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 5:26 AM, Lewan Mats mats.le...@nyteknik.se wrote: Good thoughts Rob. I believe that the main challenge for LENR Cities will be to provide substantial innovation of its own. Experience from the IT industry tells us that in order to grow a successful eco-system where talented people will contribute, you need to offer attractive innovation for others to build upon, e.g. Windows, IOS/iPhone/iPad, Android (the counter example is Nokia/Symbian that was not good enough). Just to offer a network will not do, if you want to produce revenue from you eco-system. And even if you don’t plan for profit you need to offer innovation – e.g. Wikipedia (the idea + the wiki tool), Linux (the Linux kernel by Torvalds et al). This would correspond to the part that you mention will be shared openly by those who do not care about IP. Maybe enthusiasm could do initially, but sooner or later you probably have to offer something substantial to build upon, to attract people. Yet, I think that the structures you suggest are spot-on, and the idea to look at other community projects is good. 3D printers and drones are examples of communities that are more loosely held together, and yet they have information sharing. Mats www.animpossibleinvention.com *Från:* Teslaalset [mailto:robbiehobbiesh...@gmail.com] *Skickat:* den 13 februari 2015 11:41 *Till:* vortex-l@eskimo.com *Ämne:* Re: [Vo]:How could we collect ideas and knowledge on engineering of LENR devices? Mats, some thoughts: Maybe the guys from LENR-cities have some ideas. They promote an open IP structure, although not well defined yet. I've asked for more details, but they probably are lacking time in detailling this out for the moment. Part of valuable ideas will probably be converted into patent applications as well by individuals. Those inventors may want to promote their ideas as soon as their ideas are secured. The other part will be shared openly by those who do not care about IP. Collecting and stucturing ideas also require serious moderation to keep a certain professional level. I've been thinking of several places to moderate professional engineering ideas: - meetup groups - moderated LinkedIn groups - dedicated e-mail reflectors I see several sub-groups that handle following activities: - a think tank that defines engeneering topics and brainstorms about solutions - a review team that reviews proposed engineering ideas - a feasibility team that is able to prototype (e.g. MFMP) - F2F meetings in several regions. Another approach: Are there similar global cooperation projects that can be used to piggy back on? - How is the 3D printing society organized? - How is the Drone society organized? - Cooperate with FabLabs that facilitate tooling? - Other global cooperation activities that have usefull ways of working ? Cheers, Rob On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Lewan Mats mats.le...@nyteknik.se wrote: Lots of interesting ideas are flowing here on Vortex on various aspects of LENR engineering – methods to control the phenomenon, different materials to be tried, temperatures to focus on, geometries etc. How could all these ideas be collected and structured, in order to make the information searchable for anyone who’s trying to develop and engineer future devices? Frank Acland made an initiative with a kind of Wiki: http://kb.e-catworld.com/index.php?title=E-Cat_World_LENR_Knowledge_Base , but I don’t know if it has any chance of being used for this kind of flow of ideas. Probably the gathering of information should be automated with text analysis. Comments? Mats Mats www.animpossibleinvention.com -- Frank Acland Publisher, E-Cat World http://www.e-catworld.com
Re: [Vo]:Clean Planet Inc. and Tohoku University to launch Clean Energy Research Lab
This is an original English version released by Clean Planet inc. http://cleanplanet.co.jp/news/en/15.03.30%20Clean%20Planet%20-%20Press%20release.pdf On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 8:33 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Clean Planet Inc. and Tohoku University are launching “Clean Energy Research Lab” at Tohoku University on April 1st, 2015. The project will be led by Yasuhiro Iwamura. I believe he is leaving Mitsubishi to do this. Press releases in Japanese: http://www.tohoku.ac.jp/japanese/2015/03/press20150330-01.html http://www.tohoku.ac.jp/japanese/newimg/pressimg/tohokuuniv-press20150330_01web.pdf Google translation: http://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/index.php/Thread/1260-LENR-at-Tohoku-University-by-Yasuhiro-Iwamura/?postID=3518#post3518 - Jed -- Frank Acland Publisher, E-Cat World http://www.e-catworld.com
Re: [Vo]:translation of Parkhomov 3rd
Great work, Bob -- very useful! On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com wrote: I went into the Powerpoint file and translated the text and figures of Alexander Parkhomov's latest presentation into English (Thank you Google Translate). Here is a link to the translated document. Please point out any errors and I will correct them. I took the liberty of correcting the numerical mistake at the end. https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5Pc25a4cOM2WWVmdHRjVmVHMDAauthuser=0 Bob Higgins -- Frank Acland Publisher, E-Cat World http://www.e-catworld.com
Re: [Vo]:waiting LENR++ news from Moscow, again...
Video of the presentation up on YouTube now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAgvs9-tbsA On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 12:36 PM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Friends, Please look to the daily news, I am ready to translate the new Parkhomov presentation: http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2015/03/waiting-for-continuity-lenr-presentation.html Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com -- Frank Acland Publisher, E-Cat World http://www.e-catworld.com
Re: [Vo]:waiting LENR++ news from Moscow, again...
Slides captured by the MFMP here: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0Bz7lTfqkED9Wfll6bDlfWE5lbnVSRW53RHYxU0hqYkI5VE9kYldJWDdmekF0WnZaMW43ZlEusp=sharing On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 4:05 PM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote: I ma sorry very bad problems with eyes have to wait till morning Bob Greenyear has the slides. Peter On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 10:59 PM, Frank Acland ecatwo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Peter -- thank you! Very much at a disadvantage with Russian here... On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote: thank you dear Frank, I already found it. Not easy to process, hope to get the text of the presentation. Peter On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 10:33 PM, Frank Acland ecatwo...@gmail.com wrote: Video of the presentation up on YouTube now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAgvs9-tbsA On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 12:36 PM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Friends, Please look to the daily news, I am ready to translate the new Parkhomov presentation: http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2015/03/waiting-for-continuity-lenr-presentation.html Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com -- Frank Acland Publisher, E-Cat World http://www.e-catworld.com -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com -- Frank Acland Publisher, E-Cat World http://www.e-catworld.com -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com -- Frank Acland Publisher, E-Cat World http://www.e-catworld.com
Re: [Vo]:waiting LENR++ news from Moscow, again...
Hi Peter -- thank you! Very much at a disadvantage with Russian here... On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote: thank you dear Frank, I already found it. Not easy to process, hope to get the text of the presentation. Peter On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 10:33 PM, Frank Acland ecatwo...@gmail.com wrote: Video of the presentation up on YouTube now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAgvs9-tbsA On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 12:36 PM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Friends, Please look to the daily news, I am ready to translate the new Parkhomov presentation: http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2015/03/waiting-for-continuity-lenr-presentation.html Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com -- Frank Acland Publisher, E-Cat World http://www.e-catworld.com -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com -- Frank Acland Publisher, E-Cat World http://www.e-catworld.com
Re: [Vo]:quite good info, but some bad news from Italy
The post was not removed -- it just went into the moderation queue (not sure why -- sometimes it is automatic). Now it is showing. Kind regards, Frank On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 4:40 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: The post above was removed from E Cat world. Do you mean: That was your post on E-cat world? (Or someone else's?) And the editor there removed it? That's not good. - Jed -- Frank Acland Publisher, E-Cat World http://www.e-catworld.com
Re: [Vo]:Re: Norway's Afterposten newspaper article on cold fusion
To me it suggests that based on the report from Aftenpost the Norwegian Defense Research department have asked for funding from some Research money-granting source for funds to study LENR. On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 12:15 AM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote: Meanwhile, confidence then rising at Defence Research yesterday went out in Aftenposten and prayed Research retrieve wallet to fund research on LENR. What does this mean in English? Bob Cook *From:* a.ashfield a.ashfi...@verizon.net *Sent:* Sunday, June 21, 2015 5:30 PM *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Norway's Afterposten newspaper article on cold fusion Afterposten has posted a second piece that states they have independent confirmation the the ! MW commercial pant is working well. snip Rossi himself is not available for the press, but expresses itself via its website Journal of Nuclear Physics. Where he emphasizes again that no conclusions can be drawn before the test period, which began three or four months ago, is completely over. But Aftenposten receives confirmation from another, independent source that the production unit is a reality and that the secret customer actually buys into steam. This source has heavy scientific background in relevant subjects, has even been present and able to inspect the container. The reason that he does not want to be named, is that it is considered very dangerous for his career to embrace the highly controversial phenomenon of cold fusion. Meanwhile, confidence then rising at Defence Research yesterday went out in Aftenposten and prayed Research retrieve wallet to fund research on LENR. http://www.aftenposten.no/fakta/innsikt/-Produserer-allerede-strom-fra-umulig-kilde-8065631.html -- Frank Acland Publisher, E-Cat World http://www.e-catworld.com
Re: [Vo]:Rossi's 1 MW Thermal LENR plant trial. What's the current consensus?
From what we have been told, what is being tested now IS a commercial product, providing heat to a factory and saving the factory owner a significant amount of money in heating costs. On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote: From Ashfield, ... The good news is that Aftenposten, Norway's largest newspaper , has reported they have expert third party confirmation that Rossi's 1 MW thermal LENR plant is working well. It is now at about 168 days of the 350 day trial. If, as now looks likely, LENR works, it should solve a lot of problems. I must confess that I have been remiss in keeping track of Rossi's 350 day 1 MW thermal LENR plant trial. Assuming this latest trial completes and the data looks good... what happens next? I don't know enough about this latest trial experiment to grok whether the engineering technology involved would be considered reliable enough or even sufficiently understood such that the components currently be used could presumably be re-engineered into the design of an actual commercial product. I may be mistaken on this point, but I'm assuming an attempt to design an actual commercial product would be the next logical step - perhaps not to private individuals but for some kind of industrial use, perhaps for heating large factory buildings cheaply. I'm assuming industrial oriented safety restrictions could be better enforced in ways that could not easily be done if sold to the private sector. Would components from the Vort Collective continuum care to comment? Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson OrionWorks.com zazzle.com/orionworks -- Frank Acland Publisher, E-Cat World http://www.e-catworld.com
Re: [Vo]:STEORN in the news again:
Not sure, but this is the latest T-shirt design, from CEO Shaun McCarthy's Facebook profile: https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/v/t1.0-9/11896090_10153129810703977_2701005192849534586_n.jpg?oh=98d0448fa86fc22274063d089c6d744f=56A41575 On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 4:59 PM, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson < orionwo...@charter.net> wrote: > Jones, always presenting the Vort Collective with the perception of the > quintessential cynic spiced with a well-researched conspiratorial slant! > And Jed, countering much of that spice with a more practical no-nonsense > POV. Both POVs, I find valuable. > > > > Agreed, the probability that this latest episode will pan out is about as > likely as discovering a patch of land south of the South Pole - to > paraphrase a saying Dr. Robert Park coined while expressing his adamant > disbelief for the existence of hydrinos. > > > > Fortunately, it costs me nothing to keep watching the continuing saga > unfold from the Peanut Gallery. What I find interesting is that throughout > all of these years the company apparently hasn't gone belly up. Despite all > of its prior... how should I say this... spectacular failures, how is it > possible for Steorn to continue to stay afloat? I confess, during weaker > moments I find myself speculating that the outfit must have deliberately > orchestrated a number of well-publicized failures just to shake the > competition off of their tail while continuing to perfect their > super-secret product line behind closed doors. In all honesty, I serious > doubt that line-of-thought. Just too damned conspiratorial for my own blood. > > > > What comes next? Can somebody please pass the popcorn my way? > > > > Regards, > > Steven Vincent Johnson > > OrionWorks.com > > zazzle.com/orionworks > -- Frank Acland Publisher, E-Cat World <http://www.e-catworld.com>
Re: [Vo]:Steorn: Orbo 28th October 2015 Transcript from Webinar
there's a lot of stuff that's happening behind the scenes with >>>>>>> respect to commercial licensing and what we're going to do is play you a >>>>>>> quick video of the first.. an interview with the founder of the first >>>>>>> commercial licensee of Orbo, and we'll let him speak for himself about >>>>>>> his >>>>>>> business, and what they're doing with Orbo. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Liquid Solutions >>>>>>> Killian McGrath (Founder): Liquid Solutions manufactures and >>>>>>> distributes E-Juice products for the E-Cigarette industry. We >>>>>>> manufacture >>>>>>> them here in Waterford in our own facility, we do all the testing >>>>>>> independently from outside the facility, and we produce a very >>>>>>> high-grade >>>>>>> product within this facility. We've the class to produce about a hundred >>>>>>> thousand bottles a day, or five hundred thousand bottles a week, that's >>>>>>> basically our production capacity. Yeah, the functions have gone really >>>>>>> crazy, like when we started out first, we would've started out with a >>>>>>> 650 >>>>>>> milliamp battery. You know, a user would use that, in a day, you know >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> they would charge it again and they'd use it all over again the next >>>>>>> day. >>>>>>> They'd be using a head that would burn about one point six mills of >>>>>>> juice a >>>>>>> day. Now, four years forward, they're using heads that have 3 and 4 >>>>>>> coils >>>>>>> inside (of) them, they would burn four or five times juice with less >>>>>>> nicotine, so, that's.. the trend is going there with the big vaporus, is >>>>>>> they want less nicotine, and more puff, ok, so we're now starting to >>>>>>> manufacture three milligram juice, whereas before, the weakest we done >>>>>>> was >>>>>>> six. Ok, now, three is the highest in the dripping, because they're >>>>>>> taking >>>>>>> in so much liquid to produce so much vapour, ok, they're still getting >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> amount of nicotine that they need, but they're burning about four times >>>>>>> more juice. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Well, you have, I suppose everybody and their mother after you >>>>>>> really, if you think about it, because you know, the three big gorillas >>>>>>> inside, you've got the tobacco companies we're doing a lot of damage to >>>>>>> them. The E-Cig is doing so much damage to them now they wanna come in >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> take it over. Then you have the pharmaceutical guys, OK, the guys that >>>>>>> are >>>>>>> sitting in the background, they're like the little snipers, you know, >>>>>>> they're pushing off press-releases, they're pushing out this just to >>>>>>> discredit the product, why? Because nobody is buying patches, nobody's >>>>>>> buying chewing gum, nobody is buying champax(?), OK, they've lost a >>>>>>> whole >>>>>>> industry, this product is taking over their industry, OK? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Then you have the government side of it, the government is losing a >>>>>>> lot of money from it, on the short side, because on the short side, >>>>>>> they're >>>>>>> losing revenue from taxes immediately, but on the long side, they would >>>>>>> see >>>>>>> the benefits of that in five or ten years, because they'll have less >>>>>>> serious, I suppose carcinogenic-associated health problems, moving >>>>>>> forward >>>>>>> with the population. They will have less respiratory problems, because >>>>>>> cigarettes are a huge cause of respiratory problems, in especially >>>>>>> overweight people, and, people that are getting older in age. So the >>>>>>> whole >>>>>>> idea is that the British medical organization came out only a month ago >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> they said that if everybody in the UK gave up cigarettes and went on to >>>>>>> electronic cigarettes, they would save 80,000 lives a year. >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Liquid Solutions & Orbo >>>>>>> Killian: In 2005 I would've went to a meeting in Steorn's offices in >>>>>>> the Innovation Park in the Watlands(?) I would've sat down and listened >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> what the guys had found or were working on, and I would be that type of >>>>>>> person, I would be very interested in stuff like that. New, something >>>>>>> that's new, something that's cheeky and something that nobody else is >>>>>>> doing. >>>>>>> So yeah, I fell in love with the product, with the technology, and, >>>>>>> yeah, that was 2005. 2006 you were making waves and you were moving >>>>>>> along, >>>>>>> then we all know what happened in 2007 and 2008, we had the big crash. >>>>>>> Shaun: Fucking great, wasn't it! >>>>>>> Killian: Yeah that was brilliant. We all had fun there! And I >>>>>>> suppose when I started this project, Shaun, when I started three and a >>>>>>> half >>>>>>> years ago with Wicked E-Juice and making the juices, and then I kind of >>>>>>> got >>>>>>> a brain-wave one day and I said "Hmm, maybe we can get a battery from >>>>>>> Steorn that we don't need to charge". And that's what started this whole >>>>>>> project. >>>>>>> But they're looking at today, they've gone up to 3,5 thousand >>>>>>> milliamp unit, with a .2 warm head(?), up to 50 watt, now 100 watt, I >>>>>>> was >>>>>>> in England yesterday and I saw my first 300 watt battery (laughs), so, >>>>>>> it's >>>>>>> gone totally to the other side, it's gone to the total other extreme, >>>>>>> whether that's going to stay going that way, or it's a fad and it'll >>>>>>> eventually come back down to fairly standard products where you're >>>>>>> using a >>>>>>> 20 watt product or a 10 watt product which is roughly around 9 volts, 8 >>>>>>> volts.. >>>>>>> Killian: Ahh.. No frustration. Little bit behind the times, but you >>>>>>> know, it's not a lollypop we're making here. You know what I mean? We're >>>>>>> breaking new ground here. This has never ever been done before. You >>>>>>> know, >>>>>>> this is bigger than big, you know, this is bigger than the biggest thing >>>>>>> that's going on in the world today, only for people don't know about us, >>>>>>> and that's our job, our job is to get the products out there so people >>>>>>> do >>>>>>> know about us. >>>>>>> We're Henry Ford with the Model T. That's where we are today. In ten >>>>>>> years time, we may be Ferrari, you know, doing three hundred miles an >>>>>>> hour, >>>>>>> instead of ten miles an hour. That's all engineering challenges. To come >>>>>>> over the next ten years, but that's where this product is going to go. >>>>>>> This >>>>>>> is only the beginning, we're only at the beginning, we're only >>>>>>> scratching >>>>>>> the surface where we are with this technology today. Where will we be in >>>>>>> ten or thirty years of time.. >>>>>>> God only knows. >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> Shaun: So, I wanna pretty much thank everybody for taking the time >>>>>>> to watch this video, ahm, I know there's probably a lot in it, an awful >>>>>>> lot >>>>>>> of questions that people about the technology, does it work, how it >>>>>>> works, >>>>>>> and so on, let me be clear. We're not getting into any technical >>>>>>> details at >>>>>>> this stage. But what we'll be doing is hearing from the guys who are >>>>>>> using >>>>>>> it. The next webinar we'll announce the date of it, early next week, >>>>>>> we'll >>>>>>> also in the next webinar be showing you some of the other products that >>>>>>> are >>>>>>> in the pipeline, we're showing some of the R stuff with respect to >>>>>>> where >>>>>>> does the Orbo battery go after the Powercube, and it will be obviously >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> mobile consumer electronics, so, all I'm saying, again, thanks very much >>>>>>> from meself and Pat, we look forward to seeing you next time. >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Transcript by Esa Ruoho / http://lackluster.bandcamp.com/ / >>>>>>> esaru...@icloud.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> http://twitter.com/esaruoho >>>>>>> http://lackluster.bandcamp.com >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> --- >>>>>> http://twitter.com/esaruoho >>>>>> http://lackluster.bandcamp.com >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> --- >>>> http://twitter.com/esaruoho // http://lackluster.bandcamp.com // >>>> +358403703659 // >>>> skype:esajuhaniruoho // http://esaruoho.tumblr.com/ // iMessage: >>>> esaru...@gmail.com // >>>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> --- >> http://twitter.com/esaruoho // http://lackluster.bandcamp.com // >> +358403703659 // >> skype:esajuhaniruoho // http://esaruoho.tumblr.com/ // iMessage: >> esaru...@gmail.com // >> > -- Frank Acland Publisher, E-Cat World <http://www.e-catworld.com>
Re: [Vo]:Steorn: Orbo 28th October 2015 Transcript from Webinar
Will do, Jed. On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 8:42 AM, Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com> wrote: > Frank Acland <ecatwo...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> Yes, I got an invoice and placed an order. Had to do it via bank wire, >> since the Orbo webshop is not up and running yet. >> > > Thank you for taking the trouble, and for running the risk that they will > not ship anything to you. Please let us know how it goes. > > - Jed > > -- Frank Acland Publisher, E-Cat World <http://www.e-catworld.com>
Re: [Vo]:Statement from Industrial Heat
It seems so; Rossi said this today on the JONP: Andrea Rossi March 11, 2016 at 1:57 PM Sebastian: Yes, obviously, as everybody knows, Industrial Heat has the license to manufacture the E-Cats in its Territory. Warm Regards, A.R. On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 3:51 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: > Does IH have manufacturing rights to the E-cat? What technology does > IH have the rights to? Where does IH get the fuel for the reactors > that they build. Can IH produce the fuel? Does Leonardo supply wafers > to IH? Is Leonardo the only company that can manufacture the E Cat? > > Does anybody know the manufacturing deal that exists between IH and Leonardo? > > On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 4:45 PM, <mix...@bigpond.com> wrote: >> In reply to Axil Axil's message of Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:11:02 -0500: >> Hi, >> [snip] >>>One possibility is that Rossi is doing something that rankles IH, and >>>IH does not like it one bit. It goes like this: IH was all set to sell >>>the 1 MW plant, but Rossi discovered a better LENR tech. Rossi decides >>>to go with the new tech that requires more time to perfect. IH now >>>must keep their investors happy with the delay of a year or more. >>>Rossi says that he is in charge and this Quark is the way to go. IH >>>says, we what to sell now, delay is causing us a boatload of trouble >>>with customers, investors, defense, and the government, Rossi says, >>>too bad, deal with it, I got to do what I got to do. >> >> I don't see any problem here. IH already has the technology for the 1MW >> plant, >> it's up to them whether they decide to sell devices based upon it or not. >> >> In short they could sell 1 MW plants now, and switch to better technology as >> it >> becomes available. This is what all technology based companies do. >> >> Regards, >> >> Robin van Spaandonk >> >> http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html >> > -- Frank Acland Publisher, E-Cat World
Re: [Vo]:Rossi's customer
I think this might be the same Henry Johnson: http://hwjlaw.net/who-we-are.html On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 11:12 PM, Eric Walker <eric.wal...@gmail.com> wrote: > This link [1] suggests that Henry Johnson is possibly a lawyer, i.e., > someone you would expect to register unrelated companies: > > "Note - registrations for dissimilar business entities suggest the > registered agent is a lawyer or third party filing on behalf of the > business owner(s)" > > Eric > > > [1] https://www.statelog.com/j-m-chemical-products-inc-boca-raton-fl > > > On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 11:07 PM, Alan Fletcher <a...@well.com> wrote: > >> >> https://www.corporationwiki.com/Florida/Coral-Springs/henry-w-johnson-14210.aspx >> >> Coral Springs, FL — President for Bellwether Global Corporation >> >> Henry Johnson has been associated with forty-three companies, according >> to public records. The companies were formed over a forty-five year period >> with the most recent being incorporated one year ago in March of 2015. >> Fifteen of the companies are still active while the remaining twenty-eight >> are now listed as inactive. >> >> Including : >> >> >> https://www.corporationwiki.com/Florida/Miami-Beach/leonardo-corporation/66632333.aspx >> >> Johnson President, Rossi CEO >> >> >> https://www.corporationwiki.com/Florida/Miami-Beach/refc-real-estate-corp/137192381.aspx >> >> Johnson President, Rossi CEO >> -- >> *From: *"Eric Walker" <eric.wal...@gmail.com> >> *To: *"vortex-l" <vortex-l@eskimo.com> >> *Sent: *Wednesday, April 6, 2016 8:18:22 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [Vo]:Rossi's customer >> >> Interestingly, that looks like a normal business park: >> >> https://goo.gl/V4AOLX >> >> I noticed this registration information for JM Chemical Products in Boca >> Raton: >> https://www.statelog.com/j-m-chemical-products-inc-boca-raton-fl >> >> The registration took place in July 2014. According to the lawsuit, IH >> and IPH were delinquent in finding a facility to test the 1MW E-Cat, and >> Rossi had to find one himself. Here is what the suit then says: >> >> 63. Despite IH's and IPH's continued failure to secure an adequate >> testing facility, ROSSI took it upon himself to locate and secure a >> location in which to conduct the Guaranteed Performance Test, as well as >> obtain the requisite regulatory approvals for the operation of the ECat >> Unit. >> 64. On or before August 13,2014, ROSSI and LEONARDO located a customer in >> Miami, Florida, who agreed to allow its facility to be used for the >> Guaranteed Performance Test and even agreed to pay IH up to One Thousand >> Dollars ($1,000.00) per day for the energy produced by the E-Cat Unit >> during the Guaranteed Performance Test >> >> >> So the company where the test took place (JM Chemical Products) was >> located on or before August 2014. >> >> Eric >> >> > -- Frank Acland Publisher, E-Cat World <http://www.e-catworld.com>
Re: [Vo]:good LENR info from Russia
Thanks, Peter! On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 2:40 PM, Peter Gluck <peter.gl...@gmail.com> wrote: > http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2016/11/nov-25-2016-good- > lenr-info-from-russia.html > > peter > -- > Dr. Peter Gluck > Cluj, Romania > http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com > -- Frank Acland Publisher, E-Cat World <http://www.e-catworld.com>
Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion is waning
delete On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 2:52 PM, Esa Ruoho <esaru...@gmail.com> wrote: > Jed it'd be really interesting to have you interviewed for the Cold Fusion > Now! podcast series. > > > On 8 February 2018 at 22:38, Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Alain Sepeda <alain.sep...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Jed, Don't despair ;-) >> >> >> I am not the despairing type. >> >> I strongly believe in facing facts, even distressing ones. Especially >> distressing one. >> >> - Jed >> > > > > -- > http://linkedin.com/in/esaruoho // http://twitter.com/esaruoho // > http://lackluster.bandcamp.com // > +358403703659 // http://lackluster.org // skype:esajuhaniruoho // iMessage > esaru...@gmail.com // > http://esaruoho.tumblr.com // http://deposit4se.tumblr.com // > http://facebook.com/LacklusterOfficial // -- Frank Acland Publisher, E-Cat World
Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion is waning
sorry, please ignore my previous message, just a mistake. On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 2:55 PM, Frank Acland <ecatwo...@gmail.com> wrote: > delete > > On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 2:52 PM, Esa Ruoho <esaru...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Jed it'd be really interesting to have you interviewed for the Cold Fusion >> Now! podcast series. >> >> >> On 8 February 2018 at 22:38, Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Alain Sepeda <alain.sep...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Jed, Don't despair ;-) >>> >>> >>> I am not the despairing type. >>> >>> I strongly believe in facing facts, even distressing ones. Especially >>> distressing one. >>> >>> - Jed >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> http://linkedin.com/in/esaruoho // http://twitter.com/esaruoho // >> http://lackluster.bandcamp.com // >> +358403703659 // http://lackluster.org // skype:esajuhaniruoho // iMessage >> esaru...@gmail.com // >> http://esaruoho.tumblr.com // http://deposit4se.tumblr.com // >> http://facebook.com/LacklusterOfficial // > > > > -- > Frank Acland > Publisher, E-Cat World -- Frank Acland Publisher, E-Cat World
