Re: [Vo]:What does hopfion mean ?

2013-06-18 Thread Harry Veeder
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wuTyPEpJ0g Harry On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 8:50 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: The macro version appears to be a Rodin coil http://peswiki.com/images/5/5a/Rodin_coil_torus_jp70.jpg -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton?

Re: [Vo]:swellings protons and fusion

2013-06-18 Thread Harry Veeder
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 6:48 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: I calculate them. If you have access to a windows machine, you can download the program from http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/Isotopes.zip (if it doesn't work, please let me know ;) (Elements beyond Uranium are excluded). Sorry, It

Re: [Vo]:swellings protons and fusion

2013-06-17 Thread Harry Veeder
not explain how no radioactive isotopes are produced. On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 1:31 AM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.comwrote: Recent evidence indicates the charge radius of proton is smaller in the presence of a muon than in the presence of an electron. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton

Re: [Vo]:swellings protons and fusion

2013-06-17 Thread Harry Veeder
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 3:16 AM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Harry Veeder's message of Mon, 17 Jun 2013 02:12:21 -0400: Hi, [snip] Ni62 + H -- Cu63 63Cu is a stable copper isotope Pd106 + H -- Ag107 1H+106Pd = 107Ag + 5.788 MeV (exothermic) Pd108 + H -- Ag109 1H+108Pd =

Re: [Vo]:swellings protons and fusion

2013-06-17 Thread Harry Veeder
, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.comwrote: Ni62 + H -- Cu63 63Cu is a stable copper isotope Pd106 + H -- Ag107 Pd108 + H -- Ag109 107Ag and 109Ag are stable silver isotopes. Standard binding theory says these should be endothermic reactions but if the charge radius of the proton is not fixed

[Vo]:Washington Post Poll

2013-06-14 Thread Harry Veeder
Washington Post Poll Vote on this question: What energy sources offer the most promise for the U.S. economically and environmentally? Registration is required to vote, but currently LENR has the most number of votes.

Re: [Vo]:Washington Post Poll

2013-06-14 Thread Harry Veeder
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: Washington Post Poll Vote on this question: What energy sources offer the most promise for the U.S. economically and environmentally? Registration is required to vote, but currently LENR has the most number of votes

Re: [Vo]:Washington Post Poll

2013-06-14 Thread Harry Veeder
-poll/ On 6/14/13 11:49 AM, Harry Veeder wrote: The way this works is that readers submit a comment describing their preference and each comment receive votes. The comments with the most votes appears at the top and it is for LENR. In addition, I browsed all the comments and it appears

Re: [Vo]:ENTANGLEMENT THRESHOLDS FOR RANDOM INDUCED STATES

2013-06-11 Thread Harry Veeder
Data - Drop the shields https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHoXUP804vg Harry

Re: [Vo]:Al Gore is aware of recent LENR developments

2013-06-11 Thread Harry Veeder
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 3:07 PM, Robert Ellefson vortex-h...@e2ke.comwrote: Good News! In a google hangout that just occured, Vice President Al Gore said that there have been VERY interesting developments in cold fusion recently, and he used significant tonal inflection to emphasize his

Re: [Vo]:ENTANGLEMENT THRESHOLDS FOR RANDOM INDUCED STATES

2013-06-11 Thread Harry Veeder
? Heck no! They just turn their backs to him and continue with their selfish hard heartedness. On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.comwrote: Data - Drop the shields https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHoXUP804vg Harry

[Vo]:Wanted: Pilot Customer for ECAT 1 MW plant

2013-06-10 Thread Harry Veeder
Wanted: Pilot Customer for ECAT 1 MW plant Hydro Fusion is looking for a Pilot Customer for the first ECAT 1 MW Plant to operate in Sweden. The customer will only pay for the energy produced by the ECAT, i.e. Hydro Fusion and Leonardo Corporation will take responsibility for all associated costs

[Vo]:OT: water gong

2013-06-10 Thread Harry Veeder
water gong http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SisUWArnlGg Harry

Re: [Vo]:A 1989er CF scientist committed to paradigm change

2013-06-09 Thread Harry Veeder
physicist can find a better way to explain it... this way to explain is how I understand it. What I take from that explanation is mostly modesty about lattice QM, like one should have in closed place crowd prediction. 2013/6/9 Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com Another thing I find puzzling

Re: [Vo]:Netherlands food exports

2013-06-09 Thread Harry Veeder
On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: This may be a little off topic but anyway . . . On NHK the other day I saw a documentary about food exports and high-tech agriculture in the Netherlands. Here is a web page about it:

Re: [Vo]:A 1989er CF scientist committed to paradigm change

2013-06-08 Thread Harry Veeder
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 11:35 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 8:23 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks. Take your time, but it would be nice to read the source. The headings that set out the three miracles in his book are (pp. 111-13

Re: [Vo]:A 1989er CF scientist committed to paradigm change

2013-06-08 Thread Harry Veeder
On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.comwrote: It seems to me if he was certain they were impossible he would have explicitly mentioned violation of conservation of momentum/energy since

Re: [Vo]:Of NAEs and nothingness...

2013-06-08 Thread Harry Veeder
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 8:40 AM, francis froarty...@comcast.net wrote: On Thursday June 6th Harry said Ok, I realise why we diverge in our approaches to your model. I don't start with the assumption that the lattice is in a state of thermal equilibrium. I assume the

Re: [Vo]:A 1989er CF scientist committed to paradigm change

2013-06-07 Thread Harry Veeder
Peter, Kim says Huizenga's three miracles are: (1) suppression of the DD Coulomb repulsion (Gamow factor) * * (2) no production of nuclear products (D+D → n+ 3He, etc.) (3) the violation of the momentum conservation in free space In other places I have seen Huizenga three miracles written like

Re: [Vo]:A 1989er CF scientist committed to paradigm change

2013-06-07 Thread Harry Veeder
PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: Peter, Kim says Huizenga's three miracles are: (1) suppression of the DD Coulomb repulsion (Gamow factor) * * (2) no production of nuclear products (D+D → n+ 3He, etc.) (3) the violation of the momentum conservation in free space In other places

Re: [Vo]:A 1989er CF scientist committed to paradigm change

2013-06-07 Thread Harry Veeder
If He took off by itself, how fast would it be moving? Detecting and measuring the speed of He particles would be a way checking for a conservation of momentum violation. harry On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 5:11 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Harry Veeder's message of Fri, 7 Jun 2013

[Vo]:QBism

2013-06-07 Thread Harry Veeder
Wanted, dead or alive (not dead and alive) http://www.wm.edu/news/stories/2013/scientific-american-article-explains-a- way-to-resolve-quantum-state-paradoxes-123.php The weird part is this: As long as the box is sealed, you have to consider the cat to be both dead and alive. That’s what life is

Re: [Vo]:QBism

2013-06-07 Thread Harry Veeder
No, sorry. I first saw it on the newsstand and just flipped through it. Harry On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 10:17 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: Teaser. Do you have a subscription?

Re: [Vo]:A 1989er CF scientist committed to paradigm change

2013-06-07 Thread Harry Veeder
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: From: Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, June 7, 2013 12:29:30 PM Somebody with a copy of Huizenga's book could this settle this issue quickly. I have an early edition (he revised it later) but it's

Re: [Vo]:Of NAEs and nothingness...

2013-06-06 Thread Harry Veeder
Ed, On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: On Jun 4, 2013, at 11:11 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: Ed, On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.comwrote: On Jun 2, 2013, at 12:15 AM, Harry Veeder wrote: On Fri, May 31, 2013

Re: [Vo]:Of NAEs and nothingness...

2013-06-06 Thread Harry Veeder
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: Harry, you don't seem to understand the concept of work. Consider that atoms in a lattice are held together by a force. They vibrate and this vibration contains energy as the heat capacity. Is a piece of salt doing

Re: [Vo]:Of NAEs and nothingness...

2013-06-06 Thread Harry Veeder
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 8:22 PM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: On Jun 6, 2013, at 1:30 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: Ed, On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.comwrote: Harry, you don't seem to understand the concept of work. Consider that atoms

[Vo]:update from the MFMP project

2013-06-05 Thread Harry Veeder
http://www.quantumheat.org/index.php/en/follow/follow-4/271-s-g-cells-preliminary-test-findings-for-run-2 The first test run of the Steel and Glass cell suggested that it took approximately 6% more power to maintain the same volume of water at the same temperature in the control cell when

Re: [Vo]:FYI: New experiments challenge fundamental understanding of electromagnetism

2013-06-05 Thread Harry Veeder
I wonder what Randall Mills would predict. Harry On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Mark Iverson markiver...@charter.netwrote: FYI: http://phys.org/news/2012-11-fundamental-electromagnetism.html ** ** Possible connection to Mills’ f/H or inverse rydberg states??? ** ** If

Re: [Vo]:A Couple Hundred Bucks Maybe...

2013-06-04 Thread Harry Veeder
A visual demonstration would impress the masses. Use a real ecat and a dummy ecat with the same input power to inflate a balloon The real ecat will inflate the balloon faster. Harry On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: DJ Cravens djcrav...@hotmail.com

[Vo]:A New Direction for Thermoelectric Cooling

2013-06-04 Thread Harry Veeder
Materials in which heat flows perpendicular to an electric current could lead to better devices for cooling electronics. http://physics.aps.org/articles/v6/63 Harry

Re: [Vo]:Ethics of the E-Cat investigation put into question

2013-06-04 Thread Harry Veeder
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 7:52 AM, Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 12:27 AM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 2:58 AM, Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.comwrote: But I think you misunderstood. I was not referring to new science

Re: [Vo]:Ekstrom critique of Levi et al.

2013-06-04 Thread Harry Veeder
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 8:12 AM, Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 9:50 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: The tactic of the obstructionist is to avoid dealing with the case The avoidance here is from the true believers who insist that any alternative

Re: [Vo]:Of NAEs and nothingness...

2013-06-04 Thread Harry Veeder
Ed, On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.comwrote: On Jun 2, 2013, at 12:15 AM, Harry Veeder wrote: On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 9:11 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.comwrote: On May 30, 2013, at 11:39 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 11:00

Re: [Vo]:OT: scrabble challenge

2013-06-03 Thread Harry Veeder
A sign of something to come or a sign of something that was missed !? ;-) Harry On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 1:22 AM, Craig Brown cr...@overunity.co wrote: FRENCH Original Message Subject: [Vo]:OT: scrabble challenge From: Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com Date: Mon, June 03

Re: [Vo]:A Language Upgrade Needed for LENR?

2013-06-03 Thread Harry Veeder
frigorific! Harry On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 6:18 AM, Jack Cole jcol...@gmail.com wrote: Good points Alain. I suppose it may all become a mute point as more positive results roll in, and if there is a running reactor that the public can visit. On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 3:03 AM, Alain Sepeda

Re: [Vo]:OT: scrabble challenge

2013-06-03 Thread Harry Veeder
... - Brad On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 10:14 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.comwrote: With the seven letters LENR CF H make a word. Harry

Re: [Vo]:LENR a gateway into the theory of everything.

2013-06-03 Thread Harry Veeder
Metrologically speaking, it doesn't matter if an entity creates excess heat by violating the laws of thermodynamics. What matters is that our instruments work according to the laws of thermodynamics. As long as they do, we can determine with confidence how much excess heat the entity creates.

Re: [Vo]:Of NAEs and nothingness...

2013-06-02 Thread Harry Veeder
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 9:11 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.comwrote: On May 30, 2013, at 11:39 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.comwrote: Harry, imagine balls held in line by springs. If the end ball is pull away with a force

Re: [Vo]:Adding Energy to get Energy

2013-06-02 Thread Harry Veeder
Jones, Did he make the background measure and the active run measure with the detector in the same place and same orientation? If he did, then the dip recorded during the active run would mean an _active_ ecat can reduce background radiation. Harry On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 12:08 AM,

Re: [Vo]:Ethics of the E-Cat investigation put into question

2013-06-02 Thread Harry Veeder
On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Giving Rossi the benefit of the doubt, the fact that an external stimulus is required in the form of resistance heating (also heat, as has been pointed out), this seems to indicate that one of two phenomena, or both,

Re: [Vo]:Sonoluminescence

2013-06-02 Thread Harry Veeder
have gamma rays been detected coming from these bubbles? If not then the phenomena is probably another example of LENR-CF-f/h- Harry On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 9:51 PM, Joe Hughes jhughe...@comcast.net wrote: Interesting video clip featuring Dr. Seth Putterman describing his thoughts on A

[Vo]:OT: scrabble challenge

2013-06-02 Thread Harry Veeder
With the seven letters LENR CF H make a word. Harry

Re: [Vo]:On deception

2013-06-01 Thread Harry Veeder
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.comwrote: you have a point. a good idea for latter as someone said in a forum is: - to invite students who will play the skeptics, with stupid ideas, most stupid, some not so stupid... with naive, not far from the one of

Re: [Vo]:new hypothesis to confute regarding input energy in Ecat test

2013-06-01 Thread Harry Veeder
A single wire does have a magnetic field. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Manoderecha.svg Harry On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 10:51 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: I guess I fell for the word trap without looking at the drawing. What was discussed about the magnetic fields of

Re: [Vo]:Jeane Manning about Defkalion, second sending

2013-06-01 Thread Harry Veeder
Peter, If it will be a real demo why didn't she write that? I listened to Sterling Allan's audio interview from two months ago and the representative from Defkalion stated quite clearly that they intended to set up working device at National Instruments Week this august. Perhaps Defkalion is no

Re: [Vo]:On deception

2013-06-01 Thread Harry Veeder
On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 6:02 AM, Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com wrote: The simple fact is that the measurements made and reported are woefully inadequate to exclude deception. Unless Rossi tells people how to build an ecat or starts selling them, no test will ever exclude deception. It

Re: [Vo]:On deception

2013-06-01 Thread Harry Veeder
On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 6:36 AM, Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com wrote: Skeptics would change their minds in a heart beat with good evidence, just as they did in 1908. But there is nothing that will convince true believers in cold fusion that they are wrong. You should persuade the

Re: [Vo]:On deception

2013-06-01 Thread Harry Veeder
On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: Likewise if the testers concluded that the ecat did not work, the true believers will reject the assessment because they consider the testers untrustworthy. There have been

Re: [Vo]:Adding Energy to get Energy

2013-06-01 Thread Harry Veeder
On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: The ultimate source of energy cannot be determined as of now but Rossi’s hundreds of hours of operation at kilowatt levels with no gammas clearly

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Apply heat?

2013-06-01 Thread Harry Veeder
Extra heat in the form of thermal pulse might disrupt a resonance that was enabling the production excess heat. Harry On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 5:56 PM, David L Babcock ol...@rochester.rr.comwrote: Apparently there's two threads of thought here: a: Apply heat to make the process start,

Re: [Vo]:Ethics of the E-Cat investigation put into question

2013-05-31 Thread Harry Veeder
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 2:37 AM, Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.comwrote: I'm not talking about initiating. I'm talking about sustaining. I

Re: [Vo]:Ethics of the E-Cat investigation put into question

2013-05-31 Thread Harry Veeder
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 2:52 AM, Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.comwrote: As dave explains it makes sense if the energy input provides cooling power. Exactly. The whole thing is nuts. If it really needed

Re: [Vo]:Ethics of the E-Cat investigation put into question

2013-05-31 Thread Harry Veeder
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 2:58 AM, Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 3:52 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.comwrote: Josh, what is common sense now becomes ancient history when the newest theories come out. Yes, I know that happens sometimes. And sometimes

Re: [Vo]:Ethics of the E-Cat investigation put into question

2013-05-30 Thread Harry Veeder
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not talking about initiating. I'm talking about sustaining. I have no problem using electricity to initiate the ecat. But if it's a source of energy, it should behave like one and be able to at least power itself.

Re: [Vo]:Ethics of the E-Cat investigation put into question

2013-05-30 Thread Harry Veeder
As dave explains it makes sense if the energy input provides cooling power. Harry On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 4:26 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: I wrote: . . . If you unplug a Rossi cell and try to make it self-sustain without input, it will melt. An analogy to fire may be

Re: [Vo]:Ethics of the E-Cat investigation put into question

2013-05-30 Thread Harry Veeder
The COP will be higher outside on a wintery windy night. Harry On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.comwrote: I agree Dave, I have been providing this explanation for several years without any effect. I'm glad you are adding your voice. The critical point at

Re: [Vo]:Gibbs: Rossi's A Fraud! No, He's Not! Yes, He Is! No, He Isn't!

2013-05-30 Thread Harry Veeder
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 11:31 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 7:08 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote: If we abandon this rule, or if we call it hand waving as Gibbs does here, progress in science will come to a halt. I think there's been a

Re: [Vo]:Of NAEs and nothingness...

2013-05-30 Thread Harry Veeder
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.comwrote: Harry, imagine balls held in line by springs. If the end ball is pull away with a force and let go, a resonance wave will pass down the line. Each ball will alternately move away and then toward its neighbor. If

Re: [Vo]:Gibbs: Rossi's A Fraud! No, He's Not! Yes, He Is! No, He Isn't!

2013-05-30 Thread Harry Veeder
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 12:48 AM, Mark Gibbs mgi...@gibbs.com wrote: On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 9:02 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.comwrote: I suspect hand waving began as a derisive reference to occult activities since these might involve the waving of hands and/or a wand. . You would

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Torbjörn Hartman describes power measurments

2013-05-29 Thread Harry Veeder
Among cheeses, I believe Stilton has one of the highest energy densities. Harry On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 7:36 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: The report included a couple of graphs on page 27. One was power out per their measurement, the other power in. The mere fact that the

Re: [Vo]:Ethics of the E-Cat investigation put into question

2013-05-29 Thread Harry Veeder
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote: I wrote: But anyone in his right mind who looks at all of the experimental evidence for LENR will be convinced. I mean the totality of the evidence, as Mallove called it. People such as Cude deny that there is

Re: [Vo]:MODERATOR: andrewppp removed

2013-05-29 Thread Harry Veeder
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: William Beaty bi...@eskimo.com wrote: multiple violations of rule 2. (I suspect that he didn't read the rules before subscribing.) Whoa! That seems precipitous. He did not seem so bad to me. Rule 2. NO

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-29 Thread Harry Veeder
no, no, no...cheese power requires a cheese sauce! ;-) Harry On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.comwrote: On May 29, 2013, at 2:27 PM, Axil Axil wrote: You did not use the potassium based secret sauce that Rossi uses. How do you know his sauce is potassium

Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-29 Thread Harry Veeder
Hmmm when the nickel starts to melt would bubbles of H2 form within the nickel? Harry On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Roarty, Francis X francis.x.roa...@lmco.com wrote: So, are we are suggesting instead a much thinner layer [.3g] spread over the entire inner surface of the reactor only?

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-29 Thread Harry Veeder
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 5:13 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.netwrote: We know that Ni powder sinters at the temperature being produce What about adding some small amount of some other element to raise the sintering/melting temp; commonly done in alloying. OOTB suggestion... Anyone

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-29 Thread Harry Veeder
solution. The melting point is close to being linear between 1083° and 1453°, the mp of Ni. Ed Storms On May 29, 2013, at 4:18 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 5:13 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.netwrote: We know that Ni powder sinters at the temperature being produce

Re: [Vo]:Of NAEs and nothingness...

2013-05-29 Thread Harry Veeder
of this structure and are also trapped. Nevertheless, the electrons can move freely within each Hydroton, thereby acting as if the Hydroton were superconducting. Ed Storms On May 28, 2013, at 10:23 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: Ed, do you agree that what primarily keeps the protons in the gap

Re: [Vo]:Isotope separation technology can be improved

2013-05-28 Thread Harry Veeder
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.comwrote: On May 27, 2013, at 12:17 AM, Harry Veeder wrote: On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.comwrote: On May 24, 2013, at 10:38 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: The process you have described

Re: [Vo]:Ethics of the E-Cat investigation put into question

2013-05-28 Thread Harry Veeder
Rossi confuses and annoys many people by being both open and secretive at the same time. Harry On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Andrew andrew...@att.net wrote: ** Nope. Had you been paying attention to the interviews with the testers, you would have read that quote as #7 in a list of 7. As

Re: [Vo]:Ethics of the E-Cat investigation put into question

2013-05-28 Thread Harry Veeder
From Rossi's perspective there is a danger that and unscrupulous competitor might place evidence of fraud if he is not careful about who tests his equipment. Harry On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.comwrote: 2013/5/28 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com

Re: [Vo]:Ethics of the E-Cat investigation put into question

2013-05-28 Thread Harry Veeder
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com wrote: Furthermore, the fact that it was predicted means it's not an extraordinary claim at all. Everyone expected it. It fit a consistent picture based on a century of robust experimental science. The 50 years was spent

Re: [Vo]:Ethics of the E-Cat investigation put into question

2013-05-28 Thread Harry Veeder
so the secret cable is a high voltage cable? Harry On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 7:46 PM, Andrew andrew...@att.net wrote: ** Thank you for being straightforward on both points. *And now we definitively know that the cable itself is secret.* ** Of course, that will not bother the majority of

Re: [Vo]:Of NAEs and nothingness...

2013-05-28 Thread Harry Veeder
Ed, do you agree that what primarily keeps the protons in the gap is their repulsion with the lattice nuclei and what primarily keeps electrons in the gap is their repulsion with the electron shells around the lattice nuclei? harry On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 8:40 PM, Edmund Storms

Re: [Vo]:Spice model explains eCat non-exponential waveform, supports David Roberson's linear-response theory

2013-05-28 Thread Harry Veeder
The diagram reminds me of constructions consisting of springs and dashpots in series and parallel which are used to model viscoelastic materials. see e.g. http://gertrude-old.case.edu/276/materials/5.fig/05.htm6.gif http://ars.els-cdn.com/content/image/1-s2.0-S0023643808000790-gr1.jpg His

Re: [Vo]:Spice model explains eCat non-exponential waveform, supports David Roberson's linear-response theory

2013-05-28 Thread Harry Veeder
I think you are bluffing. harry On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 12:59 AM, Andrew andrew...@att.net wrote: ** It's a capacitor in parallel with a resistor. I am underwhelmed. Andrew - Original Message - *From:* Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com *Sent

Re: [Vo]:Spice model explains eCat non-exponential waveform, supports David Roberson's linear-response theory

2013-05-28 Thread Harry Veeder
and cannot interpret the funny symbols? Good grief. There sure are some ripe steamers on this list. Roberson was bad enough. Then there's ...ah fergeddit. Andrew - Original Message - *From:* Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com *Sent:* Tuesday, May 28, 2013

Re: [Vo]:Spice model explains eCat non-exponential waveform, supports David Roberson's linear-response theory

2013-05-28 Thread Harry Veeder
. Remember, I was not able to teach him elementary electronic theory. Dave -Original Message- From: Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, May 29, 2013 1:19 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Spice model explains eCat non-exponential waveform, supports David

Re: [Vo]:Isotope separation technology can be improved

2013-05-27 Thread Harry Veeder
On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.comwrote: On May 24, 2013, at 10:38 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: The process you have described has the characteristics of a ratchet. Curiously, Jones used the ratchet metaphor in another post where he characterised the effect

Re: [Vo]:Isotope separation technology can be improved

2013-05-27 Thread Harry Veeder
sense. But that's OK - QM is nothing if not unintuitive. Andrew - Original Message - *From:* Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com *Sent:* Sunday, May 26, 2013 11:17 PM *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Isotope separation technology can be improved On Sat, May 25, 2013

Re: [Vo]:Synchronization

2013-05-27 Thread Harry Veeder
The tiny but regular oscillations of the platform enables the synchronisation. However I bet if you constantly nudge the platform the synchronisation will vanish. Harry On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 2:03 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: Best to keep these soldiers off of that long

Re: [Vo]:Ekstrom critique of Levi et al.

2013-05-27 Thread Harry Veeder
Andrew, remember the cop is a conservative estimate so it is just a coincidence that the numbers happen to have those ratios. Harry On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Andrew andrew...@att.net wrote: ** Ekstrom makes the same point as I have failed to make with Dave (and upon which nobody else

Re: [Vo]:Ekstrom critique of Levi et al.

2013-05-27 Thread Harry Veeder
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 5:44 PM, Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com wrote: But we have no idea what the emissivity of the paint used in the December test was, nor whether it was wavelength dependent. There may be a paint for which an assumption of emissivity of 1 greatly overestimates the

Re: [Vo]:Ekstrom critique of Levi et al.

2013-05-27 Thread Harry Veeder
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 7:04 PM, Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 5:44 PM, Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.comwrote: But we have no idea what the emissivity of the paint used

Re: [Vo]:Ekstrom critique of Levi et al.

2013-05-27 Thread Harry Veeder
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 8:25 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 7:04 PM, Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 5:44 PM, Joshua Cude joshua.c

[Vo]:Pekka Janhunen analysis supports the reported underestimation of radiated power

2013-05-27 Thread Harry Veeder
From a comment thread on e-catworld: http://www.e-catworld.com/2013/05/rossi-no-longer-controls-e-cat-business/ Pekka Janhunen on May 27, 2013 at 8:01 pm Off-topic for the thread: the question whether assuming emissivity equal to one indeed yields to underestimation of the radiated power. Now

Re: [Vo]:Ekstrom critique of Levi et al.

2013-05-27 Thread Harry Veeder
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 12:04 AM, Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 7:18 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.netwrote: Josh questions: “I'm talking about the December test, when a different paint was used. I don't think we know anything about the

Re: [Vo]:Ekstrom critique of Levi et al.

2013-05-27 Thread Harry Veeder
David, As Joshua has suggested, the authors of the report should consult with an expert in spectral analysis and include his remarks in their report. harry On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 12:22 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: The question of the emissivity seems to keep rearing its

Re: [Vo]:The inanity of the hidden input power hypothesis

2013-05-26 Thread Harry Veeder
No knowledge of the waveform would be required if a circuit breaker were used which trips if more power is getting in than Rossi claims. Harry On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 3:28 AM, Andrew andrew...@att.net wrote: ** Probably; in any case, it would be an improvement. The majority of the paper is

Re: [Vo]:The inanity of the hidden input power hypothesis

2013-05-26 Thread Harry Veeder
Message - *From:* Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com *Sent:* Sunday, May 26, 2013 3:08 AM *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:The inanity of the hidden input power hypothesis what about a fuse? or a light bulb(s)? harry On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 4:20 AM, Andrew andrew...@att.net

[Vo]:Racing Towards Very Different Hydrogen Futures

2013-05-26 Thread Harry Veeder
Racing Towards Very Different Hydrogen Futures Yet, while Aston Martin and the Rapide S were preparing to make history in Germany, south of the Alps in Ferrara, Italy, just below a bend in the River Po, in a nondescript industrial park, a potentially far more historic test of hydrogen technology

Re: [Vo]:The inanity of the hidden input power hypothesis

2013-05-26 Thread Harry Veeder
cognitively constrained. Andrew - Original Message - *From:* Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com *Sent:* Sunday, May 26, 2013 3:15 AM *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:The inanity of the hidden input power hypothesis I am not an EE...i'm not even a electrician...but I thought

Re: [Vo]:Re: Constant temperature Operation of ECAT?

2013-05-26 Thread Harry Veeder
You are neglecting the I-can't-see-inside sceptics. Harry On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 7:52 PM, Andrew andrew...@att.net wrote: ** Seems to me that if active cooling control is used as the only control input, thus satisfying the unplug it! sceptics (and I'm one of them), then it only has a

Re: [Vo]:QA with Hanno Essen on recent E-Cat test

2013-05-26 Thread Harry Veeder
commercial free?! ;-) harry On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 10:37 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.comwrote: 6 months of live streaming! 2013/5/26 pagnu...@htdconnect.com Courtesy of Pure Energy Systems News - QA With Hanno Essen Regarding Recent E-Cat Test

Re: [Vo]:How to use a clamp on ammeter

2013-05-25 Thread Harry Veeder
I didn't know. One of the suggested tricks involved two clamp on ammeters and three wires and a hidden circuit, but as you say three clamp on ammeters were used - one for each wire - so that particular trick would not work. harry On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 8:42 PM, Jed Rothwell

Re: [Vo]:Why did Rossi prevent detailed measurement of the power input?

2013-05-24 Thread Harry Veeder
Axil, This addresses an earlier post you made. The boiling point of nickel is about 2700 C and the melting is about 1400 C. Ecat fuel never reaches temperatures close to the boiling point so you don't need to suppose bubble formation is suppressed because the fuel behaving a like a superfluid.

Re: [Vo]:Why did Rossi prevent detailed measurement of the power input?

2013-05-24 Thread Harry Veeder
said a superfluid can't boil (i.e. produce bubbles) when heated. My point is ordinary fluids don't bubble either until they reach their boiling point, so an absence of bubbles doesn't prove a fluid is a superfluid. Harry On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.comwrote

Re: [Vo]:Isotope separation technology can be improved

2013-05-24 Thread Harry Veeder
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.comwrote: On May 22, 2013, at 11:21 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: Ed, I think the structure of the coulomb barrier is open to intrinsic modification, but the variables governing this possibility cannot be uncovered by the tools

[Vo]:Phys.org article on test of Ecat

2013-05-23 Thread Harry Veeder
Tests find Rossi's E-Cat has an energy density at least 10 times higher than any conventional energy source http://phys.org/news/2013-05-rossi-e-cat-energy-density-higher.html Essén said that there are plans to submit the paper to a peer-reviewed journal, although they understand that it may be

Re: [Vo]:Secret wiring hypothesis

2013-05-23 Thread Harry Veeder
If you want the Ecat tested in what you consider a trustworthy site, Rossi will have to trust that his ecat will be returned. Trust an integral part of life, and since science is done by the living rather than the deceased, trust is also an integral part of science. Harry On Thu, May 23, 2013

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