Re: [Vo]:AP Journalist Response - Supression Of eCat Coverage

2011-11-01 Thread Jouni Valkonen
Craig, I think that Peter is in very difficult situation, because If Andrea
did not provide him any exclusive material, then there is nothing to write.
There is just words and claims but those have zero scientific relevance.

  —Jouni

tiistai, 1. marraskuuta 2011 Craig Brown cr...@overunity.co kirjoitti:

 I Tweeted PeterSvensson (the AP journalist who attended the 1MW test)
to ask why AP what exactly had happened to the news report?
 The response was Sorry, there's nothing I can say at this point.
 Today I recieved some more worrying information from a concerned member
of the public.  He had emailed Kit Frieden and recieved the following
response - I’m sorry, but the AP doesn’t discuss its coverage plans with
people outside the organization.
 I hate to say suppression, but when it looks like a dog, and barks like a
dog, it's a dog.
 Craig
 Free Energy Truth




RE: [Vo]:AP Journalist Response - Supression Of eCat Coverage

2011-11-01 Thread *** Craig Brown ***
Jouni,

 

He has more exclusive material than you can shake a stick at – and a full day 
to cover the events properly.

“Words and claims” for UFOs, Yeti and the Loch Ness Monster still get good 
coverage on the newswires, so I don’t see how this is any different. In fact, 
it’s far more credible in the light of the fact it’s been seen by quite a few 
respected individuals from academia.

This “spiking” of an eCat story is not the first instance of this.  I have 
heard other accounts of stories about the eCat that made it all the way to the 
editor and then mysteriously were killed at the last moment.

 

 

 

Craig, I think that Peter is in very difficult situation, because If Andrea did 
not provide him any exclusive material, then there is nothing to write. There 
is just words and claims but those have zero scientific relevance. 

  —Jouni

tiistai, 1. marraskuuta 2011 Craig Brown cr...@overunity.co kirjoitti:

 I Tweeted PeterSvensson (the AP journalist who attended the 1MW test) to 
 ask why AP what exactly had happened to the news report?
 The response was Sorry, there's nothing I can say at this point.
 Today I recieved some more worrying information from a concerned member of 
 the public.  He had emailed Kit Frieden and recieved the following response - 
 I’m sorry, but the AP doesn’t discuss its coverage plans with people outside 
 the organization.
 I hate to say suppression, but when it looks like a dog, and barks like a 
 dog, it's a dog.
 Craig
 Free Energy Truth

 



Re: [Vo]:AP Journalist Response - Supression Of eCat Coverage

2011-11-01 Thread Peter Heckert

Hi,

Am 01.11.2011 07:13, schrieb Jouni Valkonen:


 The response was Sorry, there's nothing I can say at this point.
 Today I recieved some more worrying information from a concerned 
member of the public.  He had emailed Kit Frieden and recieved the 
following response - I’m sorry, but the AP doesn’t discuss its 
coverage plans with people outside the organization.
 I hate to say suppression, but when it looks like a dog, and barks 
like a dog, it's a dog.
This is probably what they think about  Rossi and his invisible hidden 
steam and unknown customer.
He barks like a dog, the demos look like this, the unknown customer 
looks like this.
This is why they hesitate. If the customer where Google (Passi supported 
these rumors some time ago) then they would report.


One must not forget there are hundrets of inventors and conmans that try 
to get big coverage in press. They where already burned before.


Rossi and his fanboys must understand, these demos and customers are not 
good enough. There are other and very real projects like converting sun 
and windenergy into methane, that dont get big press.


Peter.



Re: [Vo]:AP Journalist Response - Supression Of eCat Coverage

2011-11-01 Thread Jouni Valkonen
2011/11/1 *** Craig Brown *** cr...@overunity.co
 “Words and claims” for UFOs, Yeti and the Loch Ness Monster still
 get good coverage on the newswires, so I don’t see how this is any
 different.

That is good point... There has been in recent months in main stream
media news about Himalayan Yeti and the UFO of Gulf of Bothnia. I have
not heard about Loch Ness monster in news lately, but it was mentioned
in Dr. Who few days ago when I watched it (second season). Cold fusion
is rare even in science fiction.

    –Jouni



Re: [Vo]:AP Journalist Response - Supression Of eCat Coverage

2011-11-01 Thread Danny Ross Lunsford
I just wrote a short story featuring it. In it, the Rossi effect is a 
matter-antimatter reaction slowed down enormously, but destined to pick up 
speed, so the world's energy woes may be solved, but everyone is walking around 
with a ticking matter-antimatter bomb in his/her cell phone :) The problem is, 
there are so many objects using ecats, that there is no time to blast them into 
space or throw them in the ocean!

-drl

PS to reporters - the above is about fiction. Don't throw your phone in the 
ocean.

--
I write a little. I erase a lot. - Chopin



--- On Tue, 11/1/11, Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.com wrote:
Cold fusion
is rare even in science fiction.

–Jouni



Re: [Vo]:AP Journalist Response - Supression Of eCat Coverage

2011-11-01 Thread Jouni Valkonen
2011/11/1 Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.com:
 Cold fusion
 is rare even in science fiction.


By the way, can anyone recommend (preferably good) near future science
fiction novels that have cold fusion device as a plot generator? Is
there even any?!

–Jouni



Re: [Vo]:AP Journalist Response - Supression Of eCat Coverage

2011-11-01 Thread Michele Comitini
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Saint_(film)

But The Rossi Legacy is much much better!  ;-)

mic

mic
Il giorno 01/nov/2011 12:32, Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.com ha
scritto:

 2011/11/1 Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.com:
  Cold fusion
  is rare even in science fiction.
 

 By the way, can anyone recommend (preferably good) near future science
 fiction novels that have cold fusion device as a plot generator? Is
 there even any?!

–Jouni




Re: [Vo]:AP Journalist Response - Supression Of eCat Coverage

2011-11-01 Thread ecat builder
 By the way, can anyone recommend (preferably good) near future science
 fiction novels that have cold fusion device as a plot generator? Is
 there even any?!

Our very own Jed Rothwell's book Cold Fusion and the Future  is the
best I know of on near future sci-fi CF technology.

It costs $.99 from amazon and requires a kindle reader (available for
any platform, including iOS devices.)
http://tinyurl.com/4xm492m
Should be required reading here.

I'd personally like to see more discussion of the near future uses of
CF-- replication, of course, miniaturization, ecats to volts
discussions, economic impacts, stock market picks, etc.

- Brad



Re: [Vo]:AP Journalist Response - Supression Of eCat Coverage

2011-11-01 Thread Terry Blanton
On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 10:17 AM, ecat builder ecatbuil...@gmail.com wrote:
 By the way, can anyone recommend (preferably good) near future science
 fiction novels that have cold fusion device as a plot generator? Is
 there even any?!

 Our very own Jed Rothwell's book Cold Fusion and the Future  is the
 best I know of on near future sci-fi CF technology.

 It costs $.99 from amazon and requires a kindle reader (available for
 any platform, including iOS devices.)

It's free in .pdf format here:

http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/RothwellJcoldfusiona.pdf

I like the robochicks.

T



Re: [Vo]:AP Journalist Response - Supression Of eCat Coverage

2011-11-01 Thread Jed Rothwell
The title of this thread, asserting that there may be press suppression,
seems llike nonsense to me. No major mass media this paper will report this
kind of event. What are they going to say? An engineer from an unknown
company made a claim that no scientist or engineer would believe, without
providing any proof and without letting any independent observers verify
the facts. The mass media is doing us a big favor by not reporting this.
It is an embarrassment.

Unless you know a great deal about cold fusion and Rossi you will not
believe a word of this. Our resident skeptics are perfectly justified in
not believing any of this. I only object to their messages because they are
making up frivolous reasons to disbelieve, instead of simply pointing out
the undeniable weaknesses. And because they seem to think the rest of us do
not realize this could easily be a scam. That is annoying.

I personally do not think it is a scam, but of course I see why other
people legitimately think it is.

- Jed


Re: [Vo]:AP Journalist Response - Supression Of eCat Coverage

2011-11-01 Thread Alan J Fletcher


At 04:31 AM 11/1/2011, Jouni Valkonen wrote:
2011/11/1 Jouni Valkonen
jounivalko...@gmail.com:
 Cold fusion
 is rare even in science fiction.

By the way, can anyone recommend (preferably good) near future
science
fiction novels that have cold fusion device as a plot generator? Is
there even any?!
 ­Jouni
Per wiki : The term cold fusion was used as early as 1956 in
a New York Times article about
Luis W.
Alvarez' work on

muon-catalyzed fusion 
Again, distinguishing between Hot (Plasma) and Cold.
Theodore Sturgeon picked that up, and used Muon-catalyzed
Cold Fusion reactors in The Pod in the Barrier
(1957) -- with a twist : Extreme disbelief disabled them!

http://books.google.com/books?id=3vstCdOrqbUClpg=PA46dq=cold%20fusionpg=PA13#v=onepageq=cold%20fusionf=false





[Vo]:AP Journalist Response - Supression Of eCat Coverage

2011-10-31 Thread Craig Brown


I "Tweeted" PeterSvensson (the AP journalist 
who attended the 1MW test) to ask why AP what exactly had happened to 
the news report?The response was "Sorry, 
there's nothing I can say at this point".Today
 I recieved some more worrying information from a concerned member of 
the public. He had emailed Kit Frieden and recieved the following 
response - "I’m sorry, but the AP doesn’t discuss its 
coverage plans with people outside the organization."I hate to say suppression, 
but when it looks like a dog, and barks like a dog, it's a dog.CraigFree Energy Truth