Re: [VO]:Steorn SPDC caution!

2007-07-03 Thread Paul Lowrance
Horace Heffner wrote: On Jul 1, 2007, at 10:43 AM, Paul Lowrance wrote: Horace Heffner wrote: On Jun 29, 2007, at 1:06 PM, Paul Lowrance wrote: There's a lot of talk about the verbiage used in Steorns NDA. I'd bet this NDA would kill any chance of me patenting any future successful Free

Re: [VO]:Steorn SPDC caution!

2007-07-03 Thread Jed Rothwell
Paul Lowrance wrote: It's my impression the court merely wants proof of Prior Art. Perhaps web forums, yahoo google websites, and wikis don't count as much proof. What if I handed out a few thousand xeroxed papers to various people? I do not know anything about patent laws, but if you were

Re: [VO]:Steorn SPDC caution!

2007-07-03 Thread Horace Heffner
On Jul 3, 2007, at 2:39 PM, Paul Lowrance wrote: It's my impression the court merely wants proof of Prior Art. Perhaps web forums, yahoo google websites, and wikis don't count as much proof. What if I handed out a few thousand xeroxed papers to various people? I think you should

Re: [VO]:Steorn SPDC caution!

2007-07-02 Thread Nick Palmer
Paul Lowrance wrote (about Horace): I was brief because of our last encounter, in which you assumed error in my sentence. Fact is my sentence did not contain enough information to make such a determination, and therefore you should have asked. There WAS error in the sentence because it was

Re: [VO]:Steorn SPDC caution!

2007-07-02 Thread Michael Foster
Nick Palmer wrote: P.S. When I referenced Alice through the Looking Glass originally I stated that it was the Red Queen who claimed that words mean etc. I was wrong, it was Humpty Dumpty. I would have welcomed correction... That's OK, Nick. I just misspelled leisurely and no one corrected

Re: [VO]:Steorn SPDC caution!

2007-07-01 Thread Paul Lowrance
Horace Heffner wrote: On Jul 1, 2007, at 5:51 AM, Terry Blanton wrote: On 6/30/07, Esa Ruoho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://blog.hasslberger.com/2007/06/water_vortex_drives_power_plan.html The diameter of the vortex basin is 5 meters. The head - difference between the two water levels -

Re: [VO]:Steorn SPDC caution!

2007-07-01 Thread Horace Heffner
On Jun 29, 2007, at 1:06 PM, Paul Lowrance wrote: There's a lot of talk about the verbiage used in Steorns NDA. I'd bet this NDA would kill any chance of me patenting any future successful Free Energy machine. Hopefully you are aware that anything patentable that you have created and

Re: [VO]:Steorn SPDC caution!

2007-07-01 Thread Paul Lowrance
Horace Heffner wrote: On Jun 29, 2007, at 1:06 PM, Paul Lowrance wrote: There's a lot of talk about the verbiage used in Steorns NDA. I'd bet this NDA would kill any chance of me patenting any future successful Free Energy machine. Hopefully you are aware that anything patentable that you

Re: [VO]:Steorn SPDC caution!

2007-07-01 Thread Horace Heffner
On Jul 1, 2007, at 10:43 AM, Paul Lowrance wrote: Horace Heffner wrote: On Jun 29, 2007, at 1:06 PM, Paul Lowrance wrote: There's a lot of talk about the verbiage used in Steorns NDA. I'd bet this NDA would kill any chance of me patenting any future successful Free Energy machine.

Re: [VO]:Steorn SPDC caution!

2007-07-01 Thread Paul Lowrance
Horace Heffner wrote: On Jul 1, 2007, at 10:43 AM, Paul Lowrance wrote: Horace Heffner wrote: On Jun 29, 2007, at 1:06 PM, Paul Lowrance wrote: There's a lot of talk about the verbiage used in Steorns NDA. I'd bet this NDA would kill any chance of me patenting any future successful Free

Re: [VO]:Steorn SPDC caution!

2007-07-01 Thread Terry Blanton
You should consider: http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/provapp.htm Terry On 7/1/07, Paul Lowrance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Horace Heffner wrote: On Jul 1, 2007, at 10:43 AM, Paul Lowrance wrote: Horace Heffner wrote: On Jun 29, 2007, at 1:06 PM, Paul Lowrance wrote: There's a lot of

Re: [VO]:Steorn SPDC caution!

2007-07-01 Thread Paul Lowrance
That's a good idea. Last time I checked the provisional fee was ~$200. Also there are companies that charge about the same, which they will publish your work in a paper magazine issue and an online magazine, which legally holds up in the U.S. court of law. Regards, Paul Lowrance Terry

Re: [VO]:Steorn SPDC caution!

2007-07-01 Thread Horace Heffner
On Jul 1, 2007, at 11:59 AM, Paul Lowrance wrote: Are you saying that if the inventor freely publishes it on the web that it can actually prevent the inventor from obtaining a patent, but anyone else can obtain a patent on the invention??? Not necessarily anyone else. If someone else

Re: [VO]:Steorn SPDC caution!

2007-06-30 Thread Horace Heffner
On Jun 29, 2007, at 1:06 PM, Paul Lowrance wrote: Hi, As a side note there was a major update to my research outline page. http://emwiki.info Yesterday I provided two of my Free Energy designs, one being a mechanical version. This was published in Steorn forum, which I commented on the

Re: [VO]:Steorn SPDC caution!

2007-06-30 Thread Paul Lowrance
Horace Heffner wrote: On Jun 29, 2007, at 1:06 PM, Paul Lowrance wrote: Hi, As a side note there was a major update to my research outline page. http://emwiki.info Yesterday I provided two of my Free Energy designs, one being a mechanical version. This was published in Steorn forum, which

Re: [VO]:Steorn SPDC caution!

2007-06-30 Thread Horace Heffner
On Jun 30, 2007, at 7:45 AM, Paul Lowrance wrote: Horace Heffner wrote: On Jun 29, 2007, at 1:06 PM, Paul Lowrance wrote: Hi, As a side note there was a major update to my research outline page. http://emwiki.info Yesterday I provided two of my Free Energy designs, one being a mechanical

Re: [VO]:Steorn SPDC caution!

2007-06-30 Thread Paul Lowrance
Horace Heffner wrote: On Jun 30, 2007, at 7:45 AM, Paul Lowrance wrote: Horace Heffner wrote: On Jun 29, 2007, at 1:06 PM, Paul Lowrance wrote: Hi, As a side note there was a major update to my research outline page. http://emwiki.info Yesterday I provided two of my Free Energy designs,

Re: [VO]:Steorn SPDC caution!

2007-06-30 Thread Horace Heffner
On Jun 30, 2007, at 10:06 AM, Paul Lowrance wrote: Open source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source Prior art http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prior_art Mud: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mud Regards, Horace Heffner

Re: [VO]:Steorn SPDC caution!

2007-06-30 Thread Paul Lowrance
Horace Heffner wrote: On Jun 30, 2007, at 10:06 AM, Paul Lowrance wrote: Open source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source Prior art http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prior_art Mud: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mud Well isn't that special. Your future mud bath plans Horace?

Re: [VO]:Steorn SPDC caution!

2007-06-30 Thread Horace Heffner
On Jun 30, 2007, at 11:24 AM, Paul Lowrance wrote: Horace Heffner wrote: On Jun 30, 2007, at 10:06 AM, Paul Lowrance wrote: Open source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source Prior art http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prior_art Mud: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mud Well isn't that

[Vo]:Steorn SPDC caution!

2007-06-29 Thread Paul Lowrance
Hi, As a side note there was a major update to my research outline page. http://emwiki.info Yesterday I provided two of my Free Energy designs, one being a mechanical version. This was published in Steorn forum, which I commented on the possibility that the Steorn Orbo could use the same

[VO]:Steorn SPDC caution!

2007-06-29 Thread Paul Lowrance
Hi, As a side note there was a major update to my research outline page. http://emwiki.info Yesterday I provided two of my Free Energy designs, one being a mechanical version. This was published in Steorn forum, which I commented on the possibility that the Steorn Orbo could use the same