Re: [Vo]:CERN Live WebCast - Experimental Progress in LENR
Videos are now at : Overview of Theoretical and Experimental Progress in LENR / Srivastava, Yogendra (speaker) (University of Perugia Perugia Italy) http://cdsweb.cern.ch/record/1433865 and Overview of Theoretical and Experimental Progress in LENR / Celani, Antonio (speaker) http://cdsweb.cern.ch/record/1433866
Re: [Vo]:CERN Live WebCast - Experimental Progress in LENR
Thanks for the links. I added a news item to LENR-CANR with the links to the videos and slides. The CERN server serves slow. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:CERN Live WebCast - Experimental Progress in LENR
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: Videos are now at : Overview of Theoretical and Experimental Progress in LENR / Srivastava, Yogendra (speaker) (University of Perugia Perugia Italy) http://cdsweb.cern.ch/record/1433865 Thanks, Alan. I joined too late to see Srivastava's presentation live. I imagine it was painful to some of his audience. :-) T
RE: [Vo]:CERN Live WebCast - Experimental Progress in LENR
I could understand Sri's enunciation much better than Celani's... -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 2:12 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:CERN Live WebCast - Experimental Progress in LENR On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: Videos are now at : Overview of Theoretical and Experimental Progress in LENR / Srivastava, Yogendra (speaker) (University of Perugia Perugia Italy) http://cdsweb.cern.ch/record/1433865 Thanks, Alan. I joined too late to see Srivastava's presentation live. I imagine it was painful to some of his audience. :-) T
Re: [Vo]:CERN Live WebCast - Experimental Progress in LENR
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 6:03 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: I could understand Sri's enunciation much better than Celani's... Me too. But the pain comes from the various examples of transmutation he presented. Oh, the heresy! T
RE: [Vo]:CERN Live WebCast - Experimental Progress in LENR
LoL To the dungeon with him! No, burn him... He's obviously possessed or crazy mad! It might be infectious. -m -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 3:23 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:CERN Live WebCast - Experimental Progress in LENR On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 6:03 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: I could understand Sri's enunciation much better than Celani's... Me too. But the pain comes from the various examples of transmutation he presented. Oh, the heresy! T
Re: [Vo]:CERN Live WebCast - Experimental Progress in LENR
I noticed he doesn't have problem using the f-word in regards to his own theory, because he calls it Electro-Weak Fusion. Harry On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 7:19 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: LoL To the dungeon with him! No, burn him... He's obviously possessed or crazy mad! It might be infectious. -m -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 3:23 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:CERN Live WebCast - Experimental Progress in LENR On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 6:03 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: I could understand Sri's enunciation much better than Celani's... Me too. But the pain comes from the various examples of transmutation he presented. Oh, the heresy! T
[Vo]:CERN Live WebCast - Experimental Progress in LENR
Live webcast http://webcast.web.cern.ch/webcast/ Currently on air: (starts 16:30 CET) 2012.03.22 16:30 Overview of Theoretical and Experimental Progress in Low Energy Nuclear Reactions (LENR) live from Main Auditorium (click on the title for more details) http://webcast.web.cern.ch/webcast/
RE: [Vo]:CERN Live WebCast - Experimental Progress in LENR
Thanks for posting!!! -Original Message- From: ecat builder [mailto:ecatbuil...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 8:25 AM To: vortex-l Subject: [Vo]:CERN Live WebCast - Experimental Progress in LENR Live webcast http://webcast.web.cern.ch/webcast/ Currently on air: (starts 16:30 CET) 2012.03.22 16:30 Overview of Theoretical and Experimental Progress in Low Energy Nuclear Reactions (LENR) live from Main Auditorium (click on the title for more details) http://webcast.web.cern.ch/webcast/
Re: [Vo]:CERN Live WebCast - Experimental Progress in LENR
It sounded like one audience member got a bit, er, heated during the QA session. He insisted that the presentation was favoring the positive results and that the negative results should be presented. Maybe he was a hot fusioner and feared for his job at the ITER? T
RE: [Vo]:CERN Live WebCast - Experimental Progress in LENR
Hello, Long time lurker here. The question was absurd. I am disappointed that a professional scientist would ask such a question. Almost every new technology that is not well understood suffers from poor reproducibility, it took decades to achieve reproducible results with field effect transistors and fiber optics. The hidden variables associated with these technologies are now well known. Incidentally, what published experiments that failed was the questioner referring to? Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 13:17:09 -0400 Subject: Re: [Vo]:CERN Live WebCast - Experimental Progress in LENR From: hohlr...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com It sounded like one audience member got a bit, er, heated during the QA session. He insisted that the presentation was favoring the positive results and that the negative results should be presented. Maybe he was a hot fusioner and feared for his job at the ITER? T
RE: [Vo]:CERN Live WebCast - Experimental Progress in LENR
Terry, you beat me to it! The first thing that came to mind is that I certainly hope that person isn't a scientist... if we have scientists that think a failed experiment PROVES or OVERRIDES the positive ones, then we've got serious problems. What was frustrating is that, due to Celani's inability to express himself clearly and concisely in English, I felt his explanation was too long and disjointed. But he was right, in that all the failed experiments occurred early on when the proper conditions for successful replication were still unknown... as the field learned more and more, reproducibility increased, as one would expect. I think that the skeptic-in-question got Celani's point, but he still thinks that failed experiments trump successful replications... one more example where theories become a religious belief system, and deity forbid you challenge that belief. -M -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 10:17 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:CERN Live WebCast - Experimental Progress in LENR It sounded like one audience member got a bit, er, heated during the QA session. He insisted that the presentation was favoring the positive results and that the negative results should be presented. Maybe he was a hot fusioner and feared for his job at the ITER? T
RE: [Vo]:CERN Live WebCast - Experimental Progress in LENR
Finlay: There were many that failed early on; Princeton, CalTech, supposedly MIT (but this is highly questionable), even some of the Nat'l Labs. it took many years before enough successful ones had been done so scientists could look for common denominators that were present in the successful ones. But that analysis did occur, the required conditions were identified and published, and replicability increased. -mark From: Finlay MacNab [mailto:finlaymac...@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 10:30 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:CERN Live WebCast - Experimental Progress in LENR Hello, Long time lurker here. The question was absurd. I am disappointed that a professional scientist would ask such a question. Almost every new technology that is not well understood suffers from poor reproducibility, it took decades to achieve reproducible results with field effect transistors and fiber optics. The hidden variables associated with these technologies are now well known. Incidentally, what published experiments that failed was the questioner referring to? Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 13:17:09 -0400 Subject: Re: [Vo]:CERN Live WebCast - Experimental Progress in LENR From: hohlr...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com It sounded like one audience member got a bit, er, heated during the QA session. He insisted that the presentation was favoring the positive results and that the negative results should be presented. Maybe he was a hot fusioner and feared for his job at the ITER? T
Re: [Vo]:CERN Live WebCast - Experimental Progress in LENR
On 2012-03-22 16:24, ecat builder wrote: Live webcast http://webcast.web.cern.ch/webcast/ The slides are freely available here: http://indico.cern.ch/materialDisplay.py?materialId=slidesconfId=177379 Cheers, S.A.
