Re: [Vo]:List integrity

2013-01-02 Thread Jojo Jaro
So, muslims do not approve of what muhammed did? Jojo - Original Message - From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com; vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 12:54 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:List integrity At 02:33 AM 1/1/2013, Jojo Jaro

Re: [Vo]:List integrity

2013-01-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote: I was astounded to see that painting, I thought perhaps it had been hacked. But it appears to not be an anachronism, though the glasses certainly look modern. Live and learn. Serious comment: People in the past often had better technology and

Re: [Vo]:List integrity

2013-01-02 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 03:29 AM 1/2/2013, Jojo Jaro wrote: So, muslims do not approve of what muhammed did? My post was clear. Muslims vary in opinion, but, speaking generally: Muslims do not approve of what Jojo claims Muhammad did. Some Muslims approve of some aspects of what Jojo claims. No Muslims approve of

Re: [Vo]:List integrity

2013-01-02 Thread Harry Veeder
Ok, and this ends my participation in this exchange. Harry On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 11:16 PM, de Bivort Lawrence ldebiv...@gmail.com wrote: Both are false. On Dec 31, 2012, at 5:31 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: Sorry I am confused. What is considered false here? A nine year old is barely out

Re: [Vo]:List integrity

2013-01-02 Thread Jojo Jaro
a...@lomaxdesign.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com; vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 3:09 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:List integrity At 03:29 AM 1/2/2013, Jojo Jaro wrote: So, muslims do not approve of what muhammed did? My post was clear. Muslims vary in opinion, but, speaking

Fwd: [Vo]:List integrity

2013-01-02 Thread Harry Veeder
Ok, and this ends my participation in this exchange. Harry On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 11:16 PM, de Bivort Lawrence ldebiv...@gmail.com wrote: Both are false. On Dec 31, 2012, at 5:31 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: Sorry I am confused. What is considered false here? A nine year old is barely out

Re: [Vo]:List integrity

2013-01-01 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
Latest news: Pope Catholic, Troll Continues Trolling At 11:45 PM 12/31/2012, Jojo Jaro wrote: OK, Lomax, you have had your last word. As promised, I am not insulting back and letting it be. Please end this. Unless you want to continue the exchange. Jojo PS. Note that this response is a

Re: [Vo]:List integrity

2013-01-01 Thread Jed Rothwell
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote: Latest news: Pope Catholic, Troll Continues Trolling The Pope is trolling?!? I have heard he Tweets. Now this! I guess it is an effort to bring the Church into the Modern Era and appeal to Youth. He is keeping up with the latest technology, like

Re: [Vo]:List integrity

2013-01-01 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 02:28 PM 1/1/2013, Jed Rothwell wrote: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax mailto:a...@lomaxdesign.coma...@lomaxdesign.com wrote: Latest news: Pope Catholic, Troll Continues Trolling The Pope is trolling?!? I have heard he Tweets. Now this! Hah! No, the Pope is not trolling. This was just the Latest

Re: [Vo]:List integrity

2013-01-01 Thread de Bivort Lawrence
Both are false. On Dec 31, 2012, at 5:31 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: Sorry I am confused. What is considered false here? A nine year old is barely out diapers or that muslims do not disapprove of sexual relations with a nine year old? Harry On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 11:49 AM,

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2013-01-01 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 02:33 AM 1/1/2013, Jojo Jaro wrote: So, muslims approve of marriage with sexual relations to a 9 year old menstruating little girl?''' There are only 2 possible answers: Yes or No. But let's see how Lomax will spin this. The general answer is No. But it is also possible to find a

Re: [Vo]:List integrity

2012-12-31 Thread Jojo Jaro
- Original Message - From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com; vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 2:51 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:List integrity At 12:45 AM 12/31/2012, Jojo Jaro wrote: Herein is the fallacy of your comments. You claim

RE: [Vo]:List integrity

2012-12-31 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
I went digging through my Junk eMail folder to find what I was sure would be a response from Mr.Jaro. Mr. Jaro replied: And the provocations and insults continue. Since you are clearly incapable of conprehending simple English prose. I will spell it out for you. I drank a total

Re: [Vo]:List integrity

2012-12-31 Thread de Bivort Lawrence
That a statement is endlessly repeated does not make it true. I posted at length on the family practices of the Arabian peninsula, as they pertained to Christian, Jewish, and pantheistic communities, and to the pre-revelatory emergence of Islam, which limited some of the practices that many

Re: [Vo]:List integrity

2012-12-31 Thread Harry Veeder
Sorry I am confused. What is considered false here? A nine year old is barely out diapers or that muslims do not disapprove of sexual relations with a nine year old? Harry On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 11:49 AM, de Bivort Lawrence ldebiv...@gmail.com wrote: That a statement is endlessly

Re: [Vo]:List integrity

2012-12-31 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
Below, Jojo promised to allow me the last word. This is it. It really doesn't matter, though, because I'm done. anyway I already shut down response in other threads. There are issues raised in these exchanges that can be of value, but they are also basically off-topic. The relevance I could

Re: [Vo]:List integrity

2012-12-31 Thread Jojo Jaro
. Yet, to my shock and amazement, he actually defended and tried to justify it. - Original Message - From: Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2013 6:31 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:List integrity Sorry I am confused. What is considered

Re: [Vo]:List integrity

2012-12-31 Thread Jojo Jaro
. - Original Message - From: de Bivort Lawrence ldebiv...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2013 12:49 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:List integrity That a statement is endlessly repeated does not make it true. I posted at length on the family practices of the Arabian

Re: [Vo]:List integrity

2012-12-31 Thread Jojo Jaro
do indeed have the last insult. - Original Message - From: OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 11:36 PM Subject: RE: [Vo]:List integrity I went digging through my Junk eMail folder to find what I was sure would

Re: [Vo]:List integrity

2012-12-31 Thread Jojo Jaro
considerable research into this topic, what was A'isha age when muhammed started having intercourse with her? - Original Message - From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com; vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2013 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:List

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2012-12-30 Thread Jojo Jaro
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com; vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 1:55 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:List integrity At 09:29 PM 12/29/2012, Jojo Jaro wrote: ... my caustic postings are exclusively directed at people who insult me; I challenged anyone to sieve thru the archives to see if I

Re: [Vo]:List integrity

2012-12-30 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
I this post I review the early history of controversy involving Jojo Jaro on this list. Jojo began with clearly relevant postings on alternative energy research. That went on for some time, until May, 2012, when a problem appeared. Ultimately, this study leads to a clear example of what Jojo

Re: [Vo]:List integrity

2012-12-30 Thread Peter Gluck
Dear Abd, we know the history; I think the solution is to answer strictly only those messages of Jojo which refer to LENR and ignoring the toxic ones. I am very worried why Bill Beaty does not answer to the complaining colleagues. Peter On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 10:51 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax

Re: [Vo]:List integrity

2012-12-30 Thread ChemE Stewart
It takes two to escalate and you guys have used up a lot of bandwidth one-upping each other. You are obviously both bright guys, I think your positive focused energies do much more good when spent solving world energy problems... On Sunday, December 30, 2012, Peter Gluck wrote: Dear Abd, we

Re: [Vo]:List integrity

2012-12-30 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
: [Vo]:List integrity At 09:29 PM 12/29/2012, Jojo Jaro wrote: ... my caustic postings are exclusively directed at people who insult me; I challenged anyone to sieve thru the archives to see if I have insulted people who have not insulted me. Barack Obama. Evolutionary biologists. Muhammad. His

Re: [Vo]:List integrity

2012-12-30 Thread leaking pen
response to obvious bullies. Jojo - Original Message - *From:* OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com *Sent:* Sunday, December 30, 2012 6:13 AM *Subject:* RE: [Vo]:List integrity From Mr. Lomax: ** ** ... But Jojo's

Re: [Vo]:List integrity

2012-12-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
leaking pen itsat...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps in that case, Jaro, we would all be served better if you WERE to start drinking. I'd start with a good rum and coke, I'd suggest Whaler's dark rum . . . Ahem. This recalls a song of my youth: We never eat fruitcake because it has rum, And one

Re: [Vo]:List integrity

2012-12-30 Thread Jojo Jaro
on your own to continue lying about me again. - Original Message - From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com; vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 4:51 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:List integrity I this post I review the early history

RE: [Vo]:List integrity

2012-12-30 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
Since I openly speculated about Mr. Jaro's habits I suspected he would respond. He did. I see that Jojo recently stated: For somebody who's worst drinking was less than 5 bottles of beer spread over the first 2 decades of his life; an insinuation that I am an alcoholic is a grave

Re: [Vo]:List integrity

2012-12-30 Thread leaking pen
, you will be left on your own to continue lying about me again. - Original Message - From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com; vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 4:51 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:List integrity I this post I review

Re: [Vo]:List integrity

2012-12-30 Thread Jojo Jaro
How do you know that? Mary's Age? Jojo - Original Message - From: leaking pen To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 12:03 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:List integrity You know that Mary was between probably 11 to 13 when she gave birth to Jesus, right

Re: [Vo]:List integrity

2012-12-30 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 4:51 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:List integrity I this post I review the early history of controversy involving Jojo Jaro on this list. Jojo began with clearly relevant postings on alternative energy research. That went on for some time, until May, 2012, when

Re: [Vo]:List integrity

2012-12-30 Thread Jojo Jaro
: [Vo]:List integrity Since I openly speculated about Mr. Jaro's habits I suspected he would respond. He did. I see that Jojo recently stated: For somebody who's worst drinking was less than 5 bottles of beer spread over the first 2 decades of his life; an insinuation

Re: [Vo]:List integrity

2012-12-30 Thread Jojo Jaro
@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 4:51 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:List integrity I this post I review the early history of controversy involving Jojo Jaro on this list. Jojo began with clearly relevant postings on alternative energy research. That went on for some time, until May, 2012, when

Re: [Vo]:List integrity

2012-12-30 Thread Jojo Jaro
. That is the fallacy of your argument. Jojo - Original Message - From: leaking pen To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 1:22 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:List integrity because that was what was common at the time! Anything different would have been

Re: [Vo]:List integrity

2012-12-30 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
, 2012 4:51 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:List integrity I this post I review the early history of controversy involving Jojo Jaro on this list. Jojo began with clearly relevant postings on alternative energy research. That went on for some time, until May, 2012, when a problem appeared. Ultimately

Re: [Vo]:List integrity

2012-12-30 Thread Harry Veeder
On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 11:22 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote: At 10:37 PM 12/30/2012, Jojo Jaro wrote: Hence, in you, the corruption of islam is seen by everyone. The same corruption that justifies to the world that it is OK to fondle a 9 year old little girl BARELY OUT

Re: [Vo]:List integrity

2012-12-29 Thread Horace Heffner
On Dec 28, 2012, at 1:55 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: These are positions that require integrity and some level of skill, but mostly the former. My two cents worth: The integrity required is the self control to not respond to trolls. I suggest that the blame for ridiculously long OT

Re: [Vo]:List integrity

2012-12-29 Thread Jojo Jaro
@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 6:06 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:List integrity I suggest that the blame for ridiculously long OT troll induced threads lies not as much with the initiator as with those who respond to the troll. If there is banning to be done the respondents should be banned

RE: [Vo]:List integrity

2012-12-29 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Iverson -Original Message- From: Horace Heffner [mailto:hheff...@mtaonline.net] Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 2:06 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:List integrity On Dec 28, 2012, at 1:55 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: These are positions that require integrity and some

Re: [Vo]:List integrity

2012-12-29 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 05:06 AM 12/29/2012, Horace Heffner wrote: On Dec 28, 2012, at 1:55 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: These are positions that require integrity and some level of skill, but mostly the former. My two cents worth: The integrity required is the self control to not respond to trolls. The

RE: [Vo]:List integrity

2012-12-29 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
From Mr. Lomax: ... But Jojo's writings here also vary in quality. Sometimes his spelling is atrocious, sometimes accurate. I have been wondering if Mr. Jaro drinks. In fact, for some time now I have wondered if Mr. Jaro drinks a lot. It might help explain some of his occasionally

Re: [Vo]:List integrity

2012-12-29 Thread Jojo Jaro
@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 6:13 AM Subject: RE: [Vo]:List integrity From Mr. Lomax: ... But Jojo's writings here also vary in quality. Sometimes his spelling is atrocious, sometimes accurate. I have been wondering if Mr. Jaro drinks. In fact, for some

Re: [Vo]:List integrity

2012-12-29 Thread Jojo Jaro
Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com; vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 4:24 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:List integrity At 05:06 AM 12/29/2012, Horace Heffner wrote: On Dec 28, 2012, at 1:55 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: These are positions that require integrity

Re: [Vo]:List integrity

2012-12-29 Thread Jojo Jaro
attacks from a gang of mob bullies. Jojo - Original Message - From: MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 2:25 AM Subject: RE: [Vo]:List integrity Good to see you're on-line, Horace... even if 'cloaked'. Just wanted to support

Re: [Vo]:List integrity

2012-12-29 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 09:29 PM 12/29/2012, Jojo Jaro wrote: ... my caustic postings are exclusively directed at people who insult me; I challenged anyone to sieve thru the archives to see if I have insulted people who have not insulted me. Barack Obama. Evolutionary biologists. Muhammad. His wife, Ayesha.

[Vo]:List integrity

2012-12-28 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
Original subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age The original subject was off-topic. List management is not, so I've created a new header, please keep discussion here on the subject of the header. At 02:31 PM 12/28/2012, Mark Gibbs wrote: If Beaty isn't willing