Dear Jones,
While trying to do some catching up in my huge Vortex backlog, I
noticed you were kind enough to mention my sphincter effect. Thanks
for making it remain forever in the annals.
Michel
2011/1/23 Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net:
...
Well, it’s almost humorous - but one of the ways to
Michel -
Ha - one can detect a hint of cynical humor there - i.e. a sincere desire
for posterity to remember you mainly for said effect :)
BTW - we are awaiting your take on the Rossi demo. You must have some inside
info on this to share?
-Original Message-
From: Michel Jullian
Dear
From : Jones Beene
...
[In reference to Michael Jullian]
BTW - we are awaiting your take on the Rossi demo. You must have some
inside
info on this to share?
Yes, Fess up, Michel!
Where else can you expect to be both lauded and skewered at the same time!
;-)
Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
On 01/22/2011 10:11 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
This is important! Rossi is saying that on Monday, they will upload a
report by Levi et al. describing a self-sustaining run. This is the
Holy Grail of cold fusion: a self-sustaining device that produces
commercially useful levels of power.
It's
Dear Mr Brian Robertson:
I again want to return on your comment, because it is very important, and I
forgot to say a thing that I deem important too.
The same Professors of the University of Bologna who made the test of the 14th
of January, had made a preliminar test, closed doors, on the
: noone noone thesteornpa...@yahoo.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat, January 22, 2011 9:09:28 AM
Subject: [Vo]:Monday Update to Release Information on Self Sustain Mode
Dear Mr Brian Robertson:
I again want to return on your comment, because it is very important, and I
forgot to say a thing
This is important! Rossi is saying that on Monday, they will upload a report
by Levi et al. describing a self-sustaining run. This is the Holy Grail of
cold fusion: a self-sustaining device that produces commercially useful
levels of power.
People may have some doubts about Rossi's credibility,
Please indicate when you are quoting and when you are writing original
material. The style you have been using indicates that /all/ that you
post is original material, which is false.
On 01/22/2011 09:09 AM, noone noone wrote:
Dear Mr Brian Robertson:
I again want to return on your comment,
Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com wrote:
Please indicate when you are quoting and when you are writing original
material.
Yes, that is a good idea. I sometimes insert the word QUOTE to make it clear
where the dividing line is.
Also, when you copy text from a web site, please copy the URL
So if this turns out to be legit (I'm 99.9% convinced it is) what is the global
significance?
From: Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat, January 22, 2011 10:15:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Monday Update to Release Information
Jed, all
Yes, this development is important, but not exactly for the reason
specified. In fact, IMO - it makes the device far riskier in the eyes of
authorities. (and more subject to eventual political interference by Oil
interests).
Not to nitpick, but going from 20:1 P-out/P-in is
On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 11:00 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Otherwise a runaway is more likely. In fact as far as the ‘grail’ metaphor
goes, I think most engineers would STRONGLY prefer to control the reaction
via P-in.
If N quenches the reaction, tweeking by nitrogen injection
:00:10 AM
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Monday Update to Release Information on Self Sustain Mode
Jed, all
Yes, this development is important, but not exactly for the reason specified.
In
fact, IMO - it makes the device far riskier in the eyes of “authorities.” (and
more subject to eventual political
Let me expand the following thought a bit:
The fact that the Rossi reaction will self-sustain without external input
energy is a strong negative.
Why, you ask? In two words - chain reaction. This ability to self-sustain
is a very clear indication of at least a limited chain reaction. I
noone noone thesteornpa...@yahoo.com wrote:
Safety is NOT the big issue here. The biggest issue is if this works.
On the contrary, some of Rossi's messages indicate that safety is a big
issue, and it is not assured.
If the NRC has a problem with this technology I think that Rossi should
On the contrary, some of Rossi's messages indicate that safety is a big issue,
and it is not assured.
Safety is an issue, but it is not the big issue. The big issue is proving to
the
world this technology works. If it is proven this technology works then it will
be implemented around the
...@pacbell.net
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat, January 22, 2011 11:46:38 AM
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Monday Update to Release Information on Self Sustain Mode
Let me expand the following thought a bit:
“The fact that the Rossi reaction will self-sustain without external input
energy is a strong negative
My opinion is that the time for conspiracies by oilies to halt new
energy sources has passed. Evidence indicates that we achieved the
Hubble Peak in 2006. Saudi oil fields are in decline (seawater
injection is killing them faster due to greed). Venezuela now has
greater reserves than the
noone noone thesteornpa...@yahoo.com wrote:
I am sure they [NRC] know it exists. They might not be taking it seriously.
Why are you sure they know it exists? Have you been in contact with someone
in the NRC who says it exists? (You need not reveal the name of your
contact.)
I disagree. I
Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat, January 22, 2011 12:26:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Monday Update to Release Information on Self Sustain Mode
My opinion is that the time for conspiracies by oilies to halt new
energy sources has passed. Evidence indicates that we achieved
I wrote:
I say this because they contact me from time to time expressing great
surprise, asking rather uniformed question . . .
That is suppose to be uninformed questions. Naive questions that reveal
they know nothing about the subject. Usually, the first thing they say is:
I thought this
, but for industrial uses in which they would be monitored by
professionals I do not see an issue.
From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat, January 22, 2011 12:34:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Monday Update to Release Information
noone wrote:
So if this turns out to be legit (I'm 99.9% convinced it is) what is the
global significance?
Big. Very big. As Douglas Adams, describing space, said:
Space is big. Really big. You just won't
believe how vastly hugely mindboggingly big
it is. I mean you may think it's a long way
On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 12:35 PM, noone noone thesteornpa...@yahoo.com wrote
I also think we are in peak oil.
Others disagree:
http://green.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/11/14/is-peak-oil-behind-us/?src=twttwt=nytimesgreen
The Hubbard peak actually occurred in 2008, not 2006.
T
On 01/22/2011 10:11 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
This is important! Rossi is saying that on Monday, they will upload a
report by Levi et al. describing a self-sustaining run. This is the
Holy Grail of cold fusion: a self-sustaining device that produces
commercially useful levels of power.
It
On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 9:09 AM, noone noone thesteornpa...@yahoo.com wrote:
Dear Mr Brian Robertson:
I again want to return on your comment, because it is very important, and I
forgot to say a thing that I deem important too.
Oh, and I think Rossi's response was to Nobel laureate Brian D.
On 01/22/2011 11:11 AM, noone noone wrote:
I think it is a very good development.
It is even more evidence that the reaction is real and robust.
Safety is NOT the big issue here. The biggest issue is if this works.
If the NRC has a problem with this technology I think that Rossi
should
Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote:
What a beautifully ironic possibility! We could quickly go from assertions
from powerful experts that CF doesn't exist, CF is ludicrous, to assertions
it is dangerous!
Well, in all seriousness: Mizuno's cell and at least 5 others
exploded; Rossi
Yes, It is so bizarre to imagine that I am rendered speechless.
However not keyboard-less . adjust your spam filter accordingly :-)
From: Horace Heffner
What a beautifully ironic possibility! We could quickly go from assertions
from powerful experts that CF doesn't exist, CF
Jed sez:
...
We have about 1,000 readers a week normally. I do not know how many are
repeat visitors. Word is getting out, gradually, but the population of the
world is large, and people like Robert Park have access to the mass media,
which reaches a far larger audience than LENR-CANR.org
About an hour ago I sed:
Shouldn't we have expected commentary from the doctor [Dr. Park] by now?
I wonder what's going on in that department. Does he have a cold or something?
Well, the doctor has finally spoken
http://bobpark.physics.umd.edu/index.html
... and he has decided not to mention
: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net]
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 8:47 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Monday Update to Release Information on Self Sustain Mode
Let me expand the following thought a bit:
The fact that the Rossi reaction will self-sustain without
In reply to noone noone's message of Sat, 22 Jan 2011 07:45:09 -0800 (PST):
Hi,
[snip]
So if this turns out to be legit (I'm 99.9% convinced it is) what is the
global
significance?
The Golden Age of Man.
Regards,
Robin van Spaandonk
http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/Project.html
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Sat, 22 Jan 2011 11:08:03 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 11:00 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Otherwise a runaway is more likely. In fact as far as the grail metaphor
goes, I think most engineers would STRONGLY prefer to control
On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 8:53 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
I doubt Nitrogen can be used as a regulatory mechanism. It probably poisons
the
whole lattice, so I suspect that the reactor wouldn't work again until you got
rid of it. IOW it was a good idea to shut down a run-away (like dumping
I hope monday's update includes some isotopic and elemental analysis of the
nickel.
Harry
From: noone noone thesteornpa...@yahoo.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat, January 22, 2011 10:45:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Monday Update to Release Information on Self
PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Monday Update to Release Information on Self Sustain Mode
Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote:
What a beautifully ironic possibility! We could quickly go from assertions
from
powerful experts that CF doesn't exist, CF is ludicrous, to assertions it is
dangerous
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Sat, 22 Jan 2011 21:10:17 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 8:53 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
I doubt Nitrogen can be used as a regulatory mechanism. It probably poisons
the
whole lattice, so I suspect that the reactor wouldn't work again
On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 10:04 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote
I think it could be purged by a *net* flow of H *through* the reactor, but
AFAIK
Rossi only uses pressure swings superimposed on a net flow *into* the reactor.
IOW there is no H stream exiting the reactor to carry the N away, so it
From: Mark Iverson
Jones wrote:
Why, you ask? In two words - chain reaction. This ability to self-sustain
is a very clear indication of at least a limited chain reaction. I will
define the limited part in another post.
It may be a chain reaction, but most likely NOT the kind that escalates as
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Sat, 22 Jan 2011 20:01:37 -0800:
Hi,
[snip]
At this juncture, giving the inventor benefit of doubt, and since Rossi
seems convinced that the main reaction involves a proton and a nickel
nucleus, then we would have to conclude the relatively cold hydrogen
On Jan 22, 2011, at 4:53 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Sat, 22 Jan 2011 11:08:03
-0500:
Hi,
[snip]
On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 11:00 AM, Jones Beene
jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Otherwise a runaway is more likely. In fact as far as the ‘grail’
metaphor
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