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or runaway scenarios ..probably some control over the h1/h2 populations and currents not yet studied. Fran From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2015 3:51 PM To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Re: Casimir, ZPE and Holmlid The vacuum ma

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This also fits reports of life after death lab explosions From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2015 3:10 PM To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Re: Casimir, ZPE and Holmlid A comment on the THE FLEISCHMANN SINGULARITY as

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is not possible in the coherent system. (Sometimes Nature may be nice to us.) Bob Cook From: Bob Higgins Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2015 9:11 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Casimir, ZPE and Holmlid Jones, I hate to stick my neck out here, but, I will say that the Holmlid

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be that relativistic conditions and time contraction cause small changes in the constant effective for any coherent system. Bob Cook -Original Message- From: mix...@bigpond.com Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2015 11:36 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Casimir, ZPE and Holmlid

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That was strange my phone sent that before I finished writing. If Holmlid's results are not a measurement error then I'm not sure if cosmic mouns could explain the quantity mesons generated together. I'm not really fixed on any particular ideas I like reading all of them, and have plenty more

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I did mention cosmic muons but I also be remember reading that they have been mentioned elsewhere in the past i Sent from my iPhone > On 29 Oct 2015, at 21:25, Jones Beene wrote: > > From: Stephen Cooke > > Ø It's a nice process you are describing, but I'm curious how

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is. Such directional coupling is necessary in NMR reactions to achieve the small energy transitions that occur. Bob Cook -Original Message- From: Jones Beene Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2015 6:34 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Casimir, ZPE and Holmlid -Original Message

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of photons, with their alternating, locally orthogonal electric and magnetic fields, would not be bothered by the expanding space. Bob Cook From: Eric Walker Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 11:44 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Casimir, ZPE and Holmlid On Fri, Oct 30, 2015

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On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:36 AM, Bob Cook wrote: This item suggests that the fine constant varies with time. It may be that > relativistic conditions and time contraction cause small changes in the > constant effective for any coherent system. > If the fine structure

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experiment. Maybe one of you could explain the energy balance, i.e., where the excess energy comes from? Bob Cook From: Roarty, Francis X Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2015 5:37 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Casimir, ZPE and Holmlid Jones, I’ve never thought that the underlying

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So if the SPP is able to accumulate sufficient energy it is able to generate neutral mesons or signed meson pairs, for example if more than 1 GeV it may generate a Phi meson with conserved states which then quickly decays to the kaons and then the other mesons seen by Holmlid? Would it

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Holmlid said that a brief exposure of the catalyst to room light produces a limited number of mesons. So it sounds like all the photons from the room light are concentrated to only a few SPPs. SPPs produce particles like Hawking radiation. It is called hadronization. See page 8 in this article

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nergy state and >> the highest one? or are there transitions between any of the dense hydrogen >> states? If it were transitions between various energy states, one might >> expect to see a spectrum of EM radiation from the Holmlid setup. >> >> Bob Cook >> >>

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It's a nice process you are describing, but I'm curious how it can generate the mesons reported by Holmlid? Is there some mechanism based on this idea where mesons are produced or can they only generated by very high energy interactions with nucleons and require much higher energies than you

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regions that allow this endless chemical reversible reaction. Still very similar to the original premise behind Lyne atomic furnace and the MAHG.. From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2015 2:53 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:Re: Casimir

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There is a SPP condensate involved. When UV kight is absorbed by the condensate, all the photons are concentrated to a few SPPs who form it into a meson. When there are more photons as provided in a laser shot, more SPPs can form particles from the "SHARED" energy. The condensate is an energy

RE: [Vo]:Re: Casimir, ZPE and Holmlid

From: Bob Cook Ø Ø Fran and Jones suggested that the source of the excess energy described by Holmlid is of a chemical origin (electronic potential chemical energy of dense hydrogen) and not nuclear potential energy long ago stored in the reactants. First part of answer: The

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A comment on the THE FLEISCHMANN SINGULARITY as a clue to LERN reproducibility. http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com/2014/12/the-fleischmann-singularity.html#comment-form Ed Storms can test materials until the cows come home withoul LENR responce because the key to LENR reproducibility is time. It

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? If it were transitions between various energy states, one might expect to see a spectrum of EM radiation from the Holmlid setup. Bob Cook From: Roarty, Francis X Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2015 12:08 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Re: Casimir, ZPE and Holmlid [snip] But in effect

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energy state and >>> the highest one? or are there transitions between any of the dense hydrogen >>> states? If it were transitions between various energy states, one might >>> expect to see a spectrum of EM radiation from the Holmlid setup. >>> >>> Bob

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tes, one might > expect to see a spectrum of EM radiation from the Holmlid setup. > > Bob Cook > > *From:* Roarty, Francis X <francis.x.roa...@lmco.com> > *Sent:* Thursday, October 29, 2015 12:08 PM > *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com > *Subject:* RE: [Vo]:Re: Casimir, Z

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The Holmlid effect is common throughout LERN as stated by the AIRBUS guy. See how 8 different LENR systems produce the same tell tail indications on photos, Even Pd/D http://restframe.com/rf/home.html On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 4:25 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > *From:*

RE: [Vo]:Re: Casimir, ZPE and Holmlid

From: Stephen Cooke Ø It's a nice process you are describing, but I'm curious how it can generate the mesons reported by Holmlid? Is there some mechanism based on this idea where mesons are produced or can they only generated by very high energy interactions with nucleons and require much

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hat dense hydrogen >>>> energy levels are involved in the reaction? The lowest energy state and >>>> the highest one? or are there transitions between any of the dense hydrogen >>>> states? If it were transitions between various energy states, one might >&g

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Keep these items(dots to connect) in mind Two different sources for producing H(0) have been used for this study. They are similar to a source described in a previous publication.28 Potassium-doped iron oxide catalyst samples (cylindric pellets)32,33 in the sources produce the ultradense H(0)