Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

2011-12-24 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
I agree. By then the necessary control algorithms and sensor choice / development will be completed and implemented. AG On 12/24/2011 4:01 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: It means don't be surprised if he is no longer working with them 6-12 months from now. harry On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 10:07 PM,

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

2011-12-24 Thread Alain Sepeda
just a correction. to stabilize a system you don't necessarily need to know how it work. Good engineer (in france we call that domain Automatique. It is the guys who can stabilize a building heating, a rocket, a servo, an hybrid car engine... an old branch of cybernetic) know how to extract key

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

2011-12-24 Thread David Roberson
, Dec 24, 2011 7:45 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments just a correction. to stabilize a system you don't necessarily need to know how it work. Good engineer (in france we call that domain Automatique. It is the guys who can stabilize a building heating, a rocket, a servo

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

2011-12-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote: just a correction. to stabilize a system you don't necessarily need to know how it work. Yes. People were able to control complex systems such as forging iron and making wine for thousands of years without knowing how these things work. On the other

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

2011-12-24 Thread Daniel Rocha
High Temperature superconductors have commercial application yet, people are not sure how they work exactly :). 2011/12/24 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote: just a correction. to stabilize a system you don't necessarily need to know how it work.

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

2011-12-24 Thread pagnucco
National Instruments has an automated software package -- LabVIEW System Identification Toolkit http://www.ni.com/pdf/labview/us/sys_id_toolkit.pdf -- which (I assume) can converge to an optimal control strategy for an unknown multi-input/multi-state system which may be non-linear, noisy and

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

2011-12-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote: If Rossi is real, then I assume NI either possesses an e-cat, or has access to one or to his 1-MW plant. Does anyone know? I do not know, but I do know that a VP at NI wrote to a major business magazine and confirmed that they are working on a control system

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

2011-12-24 Thread Mary Yugo
On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote: pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote: If Rossi is real, then I assume NI either possesses an e-cat, or has access to one or to his 1-MW plant. Does anyone know? I do not know, but I do know that a VP at NI wrote to a

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

2011-12-24 Thread Craig Haynie
Hello! On Sat, 2011-12-24 at 15:10 -0500, Jed Rothwell wrote: I do not know, but I do know that a VP at NI wrote to a major business magazine and confirmed that they are working on a control system for Rossi... How do you know? Was it published online? If so, is there a link or any other

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

2011-12-24 Thread Mary Yugo
On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Craig Haynie cchayniepub...@gmail.comwrote: Hello! On Sat, 2011-12-24 at 15:10 -0500, Jed Rothwell wrote: I do not know, but I do know that a VP at NI wrote to a major business magazine and confirmed that they are working on a control system for

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

2011-12-24 Thread pagnucco
If Sterling properly interpreted Rossi - i.e. - According to Rossi, NI will be creating the controls to monitor and regulate this process. He said that their stipulation for the agreement is that all the instrumentation for the E-Cat plants have by National Instruments and logo on the

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

2011-12-24 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
Rossi claims NI are working with Leonardo and the 1st US customer, at their US install site on the 1 MW E-Cats control system. AG On 12/25/2011 6:46 AM, Mary Yugo wrote: That NI is making devices for Rossi means absolutely nothing confirmatory to Rossi claims. It does not mean NI has ever

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

2011-12-24 Thread Mary Yugo
On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat aussieguy.e...@gmail.comwrote: Rossi claims NI are working with Leonardo and the 1st US customer, at their US install site on the 1 MW E-Cats control system. Maybe someone can get a verification from NI? If it's true and there really is a

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

2011-12-24 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
First in all of human history??? Did you forget about Fleischmann and Pons in 1989 and all the operational LENR devices that have been built since then? As for NI, they have said they are working with Rossi on the E-Cat control system. As for endorsement, Rossi has said all this work is under

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

2011-12-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
Craig Haynie cchayniepub...@gmail.com wrote: I do not know, but I do know that a VP at NI wrote to a major business magazine and confirmed that they are working on a control system for Rossi... How do you know? Was it published online? If so, is there a link or any other information you

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

2011-12-24 Thread Mary Yugo
On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat aussieguy.e...@gmail.comwrote: First in all of human history??? Did you forget about Fleischmann and Pons in 1989 and all the operational LENR devices that have been built since then? As for NI, they have said they are working with Rossi on the

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

2011-12-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote: Quite a while ago, I bought a rather elaborate proportional temperature controller for an experimental device under a military contract. It may have been from NI or maybe from a similar company -- I don't recall. But they never saw the device and had no

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

2011-12-24 Thread Mary Yugo
On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Craig Haynie cchayniepub...@gmail.com wrote: I do not know, but I do know that a VP at NI wrote to a major business magazine and confirmed that they are working on a control system for Rossi... How do you know?

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

2011-12-24 Thread Mary Yugo
On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: I realize these developments bother the hell out of you It only bothers me as an example of the sort of flimsy nonsense people make serious decisions on. You think these people are all idiots who have been hoaxed

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

2011-12-24 Thread Alan Fletcher
I do not know, but I do know that a VP at NI wrote to a major business magazine and confirmed that they are working on a control system for Rossi... How do you know? Was it published online? If so, is there a link or any other information you can provide? See:

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

2011-12-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: See: http://www.forbes.com/sites/markgibbs/2011/11/11/national-instruments-and-cold-fusion/ Statement from John Pasquarette, Vice President of Corporate Marketing and eBusiness, National Instruments. - - - - - - That was the statement from NI denying

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

2011-12-24 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
*Specific details are still in development* says it all. AG On 12/25/2011 8:51 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Alan Fletcher a...@well.com mailto:a...@well.com wrote: See: http://www.forbes.com/sites/markgibbs/2011/11/11/national-instruments-and-cold-fusion/ Statement from John

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

2011-12-24 Thread Mary Yugo
On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: There are thousands of researchers and engineers in the world trying to solve alternative energy challenges and National Instruments provides tools to many of these scientists. One example is the Leonardo Corporation

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

2011-12-24 Thread Mary Yugo
On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat aussieguy.e...@gmail.comwrote: *Specific details are still in development* says it all. Yes. It probably says that NI, like U of Bologna, is still probably waiting to see the first of Rossi's cash.

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

2011-12-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote: I realize these developments bother the hell out of you It only bothers me as an example of the sort of flimsy nonsense people make serious decisions on. Yes, I realize that. I did not mean to imply that you or Park fear that cold fusion may be real. I

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

2011-12-24 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
Jed why do you bother? MY has an agenda to discredit everything about LENR. Discussion is futile. AG On 12/25/2011 9:19 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Take it or leave it. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

2011-12-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
Aussie Guy E-Cat aussieguy.e...@gmail.com wrote: Jed why do you bother? MY has an agenda to discredit everything about LENR. Discussion is futile. I agree it would be futile to try to persuade MY or Cude or the other extremists. I gave up trying to do that a decade ago. I say these things as

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

2011-12-24 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
You have won me and my board's support. We are working on investor and client support as Rossi knows. It will happen. Expect to shortly have a portable table top LENR demonstrator in operation. Based sort of on the setup the high school kids did back in 2002 / 2003. Now back to roasting the

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

2011-12-24 Thread Mary Yugo
On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat aussieguy.e...@gmail.comwrote: Now back to roasting the chickens for Christmas lunch. They do smell delicious. Next year they will be cooked with Ni-H power. Of that I'm 100% certain. ROTFWL! As usual, you're roasting your chickens before

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

2011-12-24 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
Did you not see that my board and myself are 100% convinced? I have just completed several international visits. The FPE was real in 1989. It is still real in 2010. We now have a working FPE device which we will start showing to our clients and investors in 2012. AG On 12/25/2011 11:05 AM,

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

2011-12-24 Thread Mary Yugo
On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat aussieguy.e...@gmail.comwrote: Did you not see that my board and myself are 100% convinced? I have just completed several international visits. The FPE was real in 1989. It is still real in 2010. We now have a working FPE device which we will

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

2011-12-24 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
Please reread my email. AG On 12/25/2011 11:36 AM, Mary Yugo wrote: On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat aussieguy.e...@gmail.com mailto:aussieguy.e...@gmail.com wrote: Did you not see that my board and myself are 100% convinced? I have just completed several

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

2011-12-24 Thread Mary Yugo
On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat aussieguy.e...@gmail.comwrote: Please reread my email. Why? If you have something to say, please say it PLAINLY. I can't decode what international trip is and what we now have a... device means. If you went to see Rossi or Defkalion and

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

2011-12-24 Thread Mary Yugo
On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat aussieguy.e...@gmail.comwrote: Please reread my email. Or are you saying you MADE a device? Geez, man, be CLEAR! If you claim you made a device... did you get it tested independently and properly? What are it's specifications? Without

RE: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

2011-12-24 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
From Aussie: Did you not see that my board and myself are 100% convinced? I have just completed several international visits. The FPE was real in 1989. It is still real in 2010. We now have a working FPE device which we will start showing to our clients and investors in 2012.

RE: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

2011-12-24 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
Hello again, Aussie, I just noticed in a previous post that you state that you will shortly have a portable table top LENR demonstrator in operation. However, you also state in the same post that it will be more-or-less based on a setup high school kids did back in 2002/2003. This gives me the

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

2011-12-24 Thread Craig Haynie
On Sun, 2011-12-25 at 11:26 +1030, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: Did you not see that my board and myself are 100% convinced? I have just completed several international visits. The FPE was real in 1989. It is still real in 2010. We now have a working FPE device which we will start showing to our

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

2011-12-24 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
I have several operational FPE devices. Had you spent 25% of the time you spend on internet chat rooms trashing the FPE and instead actually engaged in talking to those who have replicated the FPE, you too would have working FPE devices. There are none so blind as those who refuse to see. AG

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

2011-12-24 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
Not a Rossi or DGT device. But several working FPE cells. We will replicate and make several demo devices. AG On 12/25/2011 12:50 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote: From Aussie: Did you not see that my board and myself are 100% convinced? I have just completed several

[Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

2011-12-23 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=516cpage=15#comment-155608 * Andrea Rossi December 23rd, 2011 at 5:04 PM http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=516cpage=15#comment-155608 Dear Jan Srajer: National Instruments is the best Partner a manufacturer of plants of

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

2011-12-23 Thread Harry Veeder
Earlier this year Rossi made similar glowing remarks about the professors from Uppsala University. Is he working with them today? No. Harry On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 9:53 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat aussieguy.e...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=516cpage=15#comment-155608

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

2011-12-23 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
Rossi has said this theory work is being done by others. What does this have to do with National Instruments who are working with Rossi and his 1st customer to implement a better control system for the 1 MW E-Cat plants? I would suggest the goal is self sustained E-Cat operation, over a wide

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

2011-12-23 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 10:07 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat aussieguy.e...@gmail.com wrote: Rossi has said this theory work is being done by others. What does this have to do with National Instruments who are working with Rossi and his 1st customer to implement a better control system for the 1 MW E-Cat

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

2011-12-23 Thread Harry Veeder
It means don't be surprised if he is no longer working with them 6-12 months from now. harry On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 10:07 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat aussieguy.e...@gmail.com wrote: Rossi has said this theory work is being done by others. What does this have to do with National Instruments who are