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2015-04-05 Thread Daniel Rocha
But why not a simple graphite from a pencil? The bone is a fixed structure, it won't stress the fragile graphite. And they can used at will, since they are extremely cheap. I am focusing here on extreme cheapness. 2015-04-05 11:29 GMT-03:00 Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com: [image: Boxbe]

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2015-04-05 Thread Bob Cook
- From: Daniel Rocha To: John Milstone Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 5:28 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: CMNS: replication results coming later Though this thick one got so hot, that by induction, saturated the camera! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXsIbJG-r0U -- Daniel Rocha - RJ

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2015-04-05 Thread Daniel Rocha
Oh, damn, it also oxidizes... and quite fast! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y674KwBig6Q 2015-04-05 19:16 GMT-03:00 Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com: But why not a simple graphite from a pencil? The bone is a fixed structure, it won't stress the fragile graphite. And they can used at will,

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2015-04-05 Thread Daniel Rocha
The can handle molten iron and nickel. I think rather than a heater, put the bone inside one of these, filled with molten metal. If there is self sustaining, it will just stay there, hot, unless with a run away explosion, which will be amazing. The material does not seem to be expensive so, not

Re: [Vo]:Re: CMNS: replication results coming later

2015-04-05 Thread Daniel Rocha
Though this thick one got so hot, that by induction, saturated the camera! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXsIbJG-r0U -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com

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2015-04-05 Thread Jones Beene
The problem with using either the SiC tube or a carbon rod is the loss of the magnetic field. SPP formation is opto-magnetic. Resistance wire coils have enough amp-turns to provide a small axial magnetic field, and this appears to be important. See the papers on the Letts/Cravens effect – a

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2015-04-05 Thread Frank roarty
thru the enclosed fuel. Fran From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 5:04 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Re: CMNS: replication results coming later The problem with using either the SiC tube or a carbon rod is the loss

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2015-04-05 Thread Bob Higgins
Daniel, I got an email response to you from Dennis Cravens (who reads Vortex-l): One easy way is a carbon welding rod. ---Cheap and most have copper coatings that can be easily pealed off and also be used for easy connections. They are also useful for current shunts. On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 8:18

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2015-04-05 Thread Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: CMNS: replication results coming later Daniel, I got an email response to you from Dennis Cravens (who reads Vortex-l): One easy way is a carbon welding rod. ---Cheap and most have copper coatings that can be easily pealed off and also be used

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2015-04-05 Thread Brad Lowe
7:30 AM *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Re: CMNS: replication results coming later Daniel, I got an email response to you from Dennis Cravens (who reads Vortex-l): One easy way is a carbon welding rod. ---Cheap and most have copper coatings that can be easily pealed off

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2015-04-03 Thread Daniel Rocha
Can't you use W as a heater?

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2015-04-03 Thread Daniel Rocha
Bob, why didn't you continue with until 1200 outside, I thought you were following Hank's advice. But, suddenly, the experiment stopped. Can you explain that?

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2015-04-03 Thread Craig Haynie
My opinion is that this was the best documented, reported, and instrumented Parkhomov replication experiment to date. There are sure to be better experiments to come, but lets give Alan his due for putting together a good experiment. Hear, Hear! My comments sounded more negative that I

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2015-04-03 Thread Bob Higgins
I think you are being unduly unkind in observations of Alan Goldwater's experiment. Alan had previously done a dummy run with a thermocouple inserted into the center of the core and had a calibration curve showing the internal temperature of the reactor vs. the temperature on the outside of the

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2015-04-03 Thread Bob Higgins
There were a couple of reasons. First, Alan was at near maximum power when the reactor tube outside temperature was 900C and the internal core temperature was over 1200C. The Kanthal A1 heater wire would have burned out by the time the reactor tube temperature could have been driven to 1200C,

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2015-04-03 Thread Bob Higgins
vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, Apr 3, 2015 12:41 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: CMNS: replication results coming later There were a couple of reasons. First, Alan was at near maximum power when the reactor tube outside temperature was 900C and the internal core temperature was over 1200C

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2015-04-03 Thread David Roberson
: replication results coming later There were a couple of reasons. First, Alan was at near maximum power when the reactor tube outside temperature was 900C and the internal core temperature was over 1200C. The Kanthal A1 heater wire would have burned out by the time the reactor tube temperature

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2015-04-03 Thread Axil Axil
I was interested in how the pressure behaved in the experiment. To my despair, the experiment ended way to soon to see the pressure flatline. The pressure was still going down at the end of the experiment. Parkhomov ran the experiment in his living room for 3 days, Alan Goldwater was concerned

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2015-04-03 Thread David Roberson
3, 2015 3:13 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: CMNS: replication results coming later Finlay asked a similar question. The answer is in the thermal model for the mounted area of the thermocouple. The thermal model for Alan's thermocouple, mounted on the reactor tube, is different than

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2015-04-03 Thread Bob Higgins
Tungsten has a very high melting point, but it suffers badly from oxidation and will fail at 1000C if exposed to O2. Kanthal A1 is one of the best alloys for a heater coil that can survive in the presence of O2 (leakage) and it is reasonably ductile for forming. Ductility is important because if

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2015-04-03 Thread Daniel Rocha
Bob, it seems that Parkhomov is low on budget. Isn't there a cheaper way to heat that? Like, removing the graphite from a pencil and using it to heat? -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com

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2015-04-03 Thread Craig Haynie
MFMP didn't show COP1, with the dog bone test, last night It was a bit more disappointing than that. They didn't seem to have a clear understanding of the protocol. They leveled the temperature at 855 C, initially; then decided it should be leveled at 875 C. Then they decided to raise it