Richard,Tonight has been consistent, as someone just informed me that Stanford has hooked up with Chevron to study "their" new discovery of nanodiamond for broad scale industrial applications and something to do with Silicon Vally. The looming question is why I ever thought anyone at Stanford
Chris wrote..
Tonight has been consistent, as someone just informed me that Stanford has
hooked up with Chevron to study "their" new discovery of nanodiamond for broad
scale industrial applications and something to do with Silicon Vally. The
looming question is why I ever thought anyone at
Richard,You might remember that I once sought investors in hydrogen, fusion and nanodiamond from the highly intelligent members of this forum - except nobody believed anything I said. Nanodiamond is a Trillion Dollar business that I will not be seeking investors for anymore - as I will attempt
Chris wrote..
My comments on this are at http://zpenergy.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=1993mode=threadorder=0thold=0however
I will say here that the Correa's are common folk, with no imagination, foul,
nastypersonalitiesand they havesticky fingers as well.
My Pulsed Plasma Drive
at the moment so point the flaws out please. Might be back
Tuesday.
Remi.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of William Beaty
Sent: 17 December 2005 04:11
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: Correa attacks Wikipedia
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005, Rhong Dhong wrote
Gosh Bill, Now I feel bad for using a free email and
online handle.
What's in a name?
Is a long-used handle any more or less informative
than the name your parents gave you?
A family name tells where you came from.
A nickname tells what your friends think about you.
A Nom de Cyber tells what you
don't sign
up, you don't play.
Sleepy and dozy at the moment so point the flaws out please. Might be back
Tuesday.
Remi.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of William Beaty
Sent: 17 December 2005 04:11
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: Correa
Schwinger's paper a few months ago with an early
insight into CF and it was very interesting to see how a rational mind goes
about tackling a difficult problem and putting delimiters on it. It should
be more known.
Regards,
Remi.
Re: Correa attacks Wikipedia
Jed Rothwell
Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:49:53 -0800
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wikipedia is a model of free speech (not free screech) and democracy but I
guess what we really mean by free speech is *informed* free speech . . .
Why do you call it a model? In Wikipedia, anything goes. Anyone can
post any comment, anonymously. This is an
@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: Correa attacks Wikipedia
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wikipedia is a model of free speech (not free screech) and democracy but I
guess what we really mean by free speech is *informed* free speech . . .
Why do you call it a model? In Wikipedia, anything goes. Anyone can
post any
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Vo, Jed,
Wikipedia is a model of free speech (not free screech) and democracy but I
guess what we really mean by free speech is *informed* free speech and what
we really mean by democracy is an educated populous (adult, not a-dolt), non
salacious
Yep, one hoaxster 'fessed up recently:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002677060_wiki11.html
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20051211-5739.html
-Original Message-
From: William Beaty
But Wikipedia is an experiment in *anonymous* free speech, where abusive
people
William Beaty wrote:
But Wikipedia is an experiment in *anonymous* free speech, where abusive
people with mild mental problems cannot be blocked . . .
Actually, the editors can block people, and they have done so
occasionally. I suppose the offenders can simply register a new name.
If
Bill B's got a good point. This is one of the aspects which makes Vortex
such a valuable group.
Most people are willing to identify themselves and stand behind their words.
Steve
At 02:09 PM 12/16/2005, you wrote:
Yep, one hoaxster 'fessed up recently:
Others believe the Logos should be self-sustaining. Or as Mr. Grimer
iterated
*In principio erat Verbum et Verbum erat apud Deum et Deus erat Verbum*
(bringing us back off topic ;-)
-Original Message-
From: Steven Krivit
Bill B's got a good point. This is one of the aspects which
--- William Beaty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If Wikipedia started out using the simple
email-verified registration
which nearly all WWW forums use to exclude
trolls/flamers/spammers, it
would be a very different resource today.
There are two anonymizing utilities, Tor and Privoxy,
which
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005, Steven Krivit wrote:
Bill B's got a good point. This is one of the aspects which makes Vortex
such a valuable group.
Most people are willing to identify themselves and stand behind their words.
In observing (or fighting with) flamer types over the years, I noticed
that
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005, Rhong Dhong wrote:
At the moment then, requiring an email address to be
confirmed may not mean that the subscriber can be
traced.
Where anonymity is banned (or where money is involved,) some places refuse
to honor yahoo.com email addresses or other free email services for
Of course these are early days, and competitors to wikipedia may emerge as
it did with browsers.
Harry
Jed Rothwell wrote:
Maybe Wikipedia deserves more respect after all! This page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Wikipedia
. . . has a link to an attack by Correa et al.:
Harry Veeder wrote:
Of course these are early days, and competitors to wikipedia may emerge as
it did with browsers.
I expect the people at Wikipedia will welcome this. They would
probably agree that their model does not work for all subjects. We
need a variety of different online
From: Mike Carrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 9:07 AMTo:
vortex-l@eskimo.comSubject: Re: Correa
Chris wrote:
Now we're getting somewhere!
No,
we are not. You are repeating the same mistake that Jeff made, changing what
the Correas did
Chris Zell wrote:
Chris wrote:
Now we're getting somewhere!
No, we are not. You are repeating the same mistake that Jeff made, changing
what the Correas did before you ever see the effect. The PAGD discharge is a
wideband event. Transformers are ***not*** simple devices in a
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: Correa
Chris wrote:
Now we're getting somewhere!
No, we are not. You are repeating the same mistake that Jeff
made, changing what the Correas did before you ever see the effect. The
PAGD discharge is a wideband event
Hey Chris,
If you want to give me a call, I'll tell you about
all the stuff I tried that didn't work. 610 582 1694
Jeff
Chris wrote:
Now we're getting somewhere!
No,
we are not. You are repeating the same mistake that Jeff made, changing what
the Correas did before you ever see the effect. The PAGD discharge is a
wideband event. Transformers are ***not*** simple devices in a wideband
inch above the
cathode.
Jeff
- Original Message -
From:
Zell, Chris
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 5:25
PM
Subject: Re: Correa
Now we're getting somewhere!
Perhaps a huge part of this mystery concerns th
-Original Message-From: Mike Carrell
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 8:24
AMTo: vortex-l@eskimo.comSubject: Re:
Correa
Jeff wrote, my comments in blue. Mike
Carrell
I don't know anything
about electrochemistry in batteries, but I question the ability of a string
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Correa
At 09:38 am 05-03-05 -0600, you wrote:
For those of us that read email in plain text to avoid embedded viruses
please refrain from formatted replies... it is impossible to follow. Also,
formatting gets stripped out in the archived messages so
' engineering and should be easily
"improved", so you do something that 'looks like' the Correa setup without
actually understanding it.
Mike Carrell
- Original Message -
From:
revtec
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 9:29
PM
Subject: Re: C
brilliant insights but I would never
Recommend his personality to others.
-Original Message-
From: Mike Carrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 9:12 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: Correa, etc.
- Original Message -
From: Zell, Chris
To: vortex-l
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 9:42 AM
Subject: RE: Correa, etc.
I respect your opinion and have spent considerable time analysing the
patents and related comments by Aspden.
There is a need to make the PAGD practical - huge banks of batteries
aren't going to do it. I think we need
To look
Chris writes:
A sad matter that requires some attention in regard
to the Correas' work concerns their unusual state of Mind.
We have discussed Correas' work before on Vo. You can
look in the archive for the details. Paulo follows the
list very closely, but only posts under pseudonyms if
at all. I
Jeff Fink wrote:
In all the written info from the Correas, I never saw a mention of whether
they were going for a forward pulse or a reverse pulse or both. With all
due respect to Mike, the Correas never proved that OU performance cannot
be
done with a proper capacitor circuit.
In the
Mike Carrell wrote:
joules to 17,800 volts. To prevent the terminal voltage from rising to, say
100 volts, 100 farads of capactors would be needed, or 17,857 capcitors. By
comparison, batteries look pretty good.
. . .
You absolutely do not use a capacitance across the tube. What you have built
is
Mike writes:
You absolutely do not use a capacitance across the tube. What you have built
is a gas-discharge relaxation oscillator equivalent to any common strobe
flash. It is ***not*** a PAGD reactor.
I agree with Mike in this. Electrode capacity and geometry are important
parameters for this
Jed Rothwell wrote:
Mike Carrell wrote:
joules to 17,800 volts. To prevent the terminal voltage from rising
to, say
100 volts, 100 farads of capactors would be needed, or 17,857
capcitors. By
comparison, batteries look pretty good.
. . .
You absolutely do not use a capacitance across the tube.
Jed wrote:
Mike Carrell wrote:
joules to 17,800 volts. To prevent the terminal voltage from rising to,
say
100 volts, 100 farads of capactors would be needed, or 17,857 capcitors.
By
comparison, batteries look pretty good.
. . .
You absolutely do not use a capacitance across the tube.
Now we're getting somewhere!
Perhaps a huge part of this mystery concerns the critical design of the
output. Too small a capacitor and the pulse action will be
inhibited
because the capacitor will be filled. Too fast or brief a pulse and the
battery may reject most of it as heat
Edmund Storms wrote:
and Miles were able to reproduce
it on their own. If the necessary skills and knowledge have been as
obscure as those required for the pagd, it probably would have been
lost.
While I agree with Jed about the basic point he is making, success in
replicating the cold fusion
In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Organization: http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/911
On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 04:25:55PM -0600, Zell, Chris wrote:
Perhaps a huge part of this mystery concerns the critical
design of the output. Too small a capacitor and the pulse
action will be inhibited because the
- Original Message -
From:
Zell, Chris
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 5:25
PM
Subject: Re: Correa
Now we're getting somewhere!
Perhaps a huge part of this mystery concerns the critical design of the
output. Too small a capacitor
How did you handle capturing the pulses?
Batteries?
From: revtec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 5:26 PMTo:
vortex-l@eskimo.comSubject: Re: Correa, etc.
I have been doing PAGD experiments off and on since
1996. I saw a lot of interesting things in the tube
- Original Message -
From: Zell, Chris
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 5:25 PM
Subject: RE: Correa, etc.
How did you handle capturing the pulses? Batteries?
MC: Chris, if you are asking this question you are in no position to attempt
the Correa PAGD experiments
- Original Message -
From:
Zell, Chris
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 5:25
PM
Subject: RE: Correa, etc.
How did you handle capturing the pulses?
Batteries?
From: revtec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 5
At 10:05 pm Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Thomas Malloy wrote:
snip
On a separate note, I just got done reading Confessions
of an Economic Hitman. It is an astounding book.
I have little doubt that anyone who stands in the
way of our oil based economic order could be killed.
If you have serious
Title: Re: Correa, etc.
Has anybody replicated
any of Correa's PAGD overunity claims? I got a vacuum pump and
other gear in hopes of building something
that apparently nobody is
pursuing. (???)
On a separate note,
I just got done reading Confessions of an Economic Hitman.
It is an astounding
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