Re: [Vo]:If there is a conspiracy, it is being run by idiots!

2010-04-03 Thread Jed Rothwell
The question arises: If, as I claim, the opposition is weak and foolish, why have they won every round of this fight? Why is there no funding for cold fusion? As I see it, human nature is the problem. Many people hate progress. Even scientists. As Martin told me years ago: People do not want

Re: [Vo]:Ed Roberts, Designer of Altair 8800, Dead at 68

2010-04-03 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 04:36 PM 4/2/2010, Horace Heffner wrote: The original Mits Altair 8800 we built had only 256 bytes (yes bytes not k) of RAM, and we later upgraded it to 1k. Same as me. We programmed it in machine language by toggling in the instructions using a bay of switches on the front control

Re: [Vo]:Cold fusion can be suppressed now, but not after it becomes generally known that it is real

2010-04-03 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 05:32 PM 4/2/2010, Jed Rothwell wrote: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: Producing a controlled cold fusion reaction is impossible at present, as far as I know, unless Mills or Rossi have they think they have. Mills is seeing, he seems to claim, reliable results, but it's codeposition. You

RE: [Vo]:Ed Roberts, Designer of Altair 8800, Dead at 68

2010-04-03 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax Horace Heffner wrote: [snip] The original Mits Altair 8800 we built had only 256 bytes Same as me Here is a side comment regarding the background of many commentators who make their way to this list, in particular - and to the

[Vo]:LENR and BLP

2010-04-03 Thread Mike Carrell
Jed wrote: snip I assume that if Blacklight Power has anything, it must be fundamentally the same as cold fusion. They don't want to hear that, but I am free to go on assuming it. McKubre agrees with me, by the way. - Jed --- Mike McKubre should know better,

Re: [Vo]:Ed Roberts, Designer of Altair 8800, Dead at 68

2010-04-03 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: I am not a sociologist but it might make a good study for one. This is probably not coincidental. It probably has to do with going through an age where the seemingly impossible in technology became reality in a very short time, where rules were made to be broken and where

Re: [Vo]:LENR and BLP

2010-04-03 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mike Carrell wrote: Mike McKubre should know better, and so should Jed. It is amusing that members of each camp should claim each other's territory; it illustrates how tightly one holds onto his pet ideas. LENR theorists try to shoehorn LENR phenomena into Quantum Mechanics [as if that gives

[Vo]:Rossi BLP

2010-04-03 Thread Jones Beene
It may be no coincidence that BLP signed a recent deal with a billion euro Italian company (RadiciGroup) last week, and then widely publicized it in Europe (more so than the six other deals) despite it being little more than an agreement to do something in future if everyone agrees at that future

Re: [Vo]:Ed Roberts, Designer of Altair 8800, Dead at 68

2010-04-03 Thread Horace Heffner
On Apr 3, 2010, at 11:04 AM, Jones Beene wrote: I hope it is PC g. Usually generalizations of this kind smack of bigotry, but anyway... Yep, it's the nerd thing. 8^) A nerd and proud of it: Horace Heffner

Re: [Vo]:LENR and BLP

2010-04-03 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: It is simple: I never give a free pass to any claim . . . Lest anyone doubt this, let me remind readers here that I do not even give a free pass to *myself*. That's gotta be some kind of record. I spent hours, days, and weeks looking at the Patterson, Hydrodynamics, and

Re: [Vo]:Ed Roberts, Designer of Altair 8800, Dead at 68

2010-04-03 Thread Horace Heffner
On Apr 3, 2010, at 11:04 AM, Jones Beene wrote: I hope it is PC g. Usually generalizations of this kind smack of bigotry, but anyway... Yep, it's the geek thing. 8^) A geek and proud of it: Horace Heffner

[Vo]:transcript of the video conference

2010-04-03 Thread FZNIDARSIC
_http://www.worldsci.org/php/index.php?tab0=Moretab1=Mediatab2=Displayid= 254_ (http://www.worldsci.org/php/index.php?tab0=Moretab1=Mediatab2=Displayid=254) Frank Znidarsic

Re: [Vo]:LENR and BLP

2010-04-03 Thread Mike Carrell
Much meat for discussion here. I take Mills at face value without altering it as 'he really means this or that' which blurs the issues. BLP and LENR are new territory and neither theoretical structure is gospel. Mills, to his credit, has produced a magnum opus addressing the major issues of

Re: [Vo]:LENR and BLP

2010-04-03 Thread Francis X Roarty
Jed, I agree that these effects are all related for the same reasons you state and that Arata supplies the most compelling evidence. Your argument regarding this being fushion or chemical and your reply to Mike Carrel 50 kW for how long? How much energy? From what mass of fuel?