The energy of the vacuum causes the Bosenova
From: http://arxiv.org/pdf/cond-mat/0412041
*The collapsing condensate was observed to lose atoms until the atom number
reduced to about the critical value below which a stable condensate can
exist. The dependence of the number of remaining atoms
So sorry, please excuse me; ChemE Stewart, the uncertaty principle is the
reason why your singularity theory is unworkable. At the atomic level,
Gravity is too weak a force by many orders of magnitude to overcome the
energies produced by a large accumulation of matter in too compacted a
volume to
This paragraph makes no sense to me:
So, the LENR term is problematic due to such serious scientific reasons.
But there is one more problematic effect from the use of such wrong
definition: Certification of products based on such technologies when named
“nuclear”, will result the involvement of
Jed,
I totally agree. Our firm designs industrial ASME certified vessels to
handle high temperatures and pressures. These vessels also have to confirm
to API and NFPA guidelines. If a customer came to us with a reactor
design that they could not define what the exact reaction kinetics were
I think I will send without an attachment
Found this recent 2011 patent application for an inertial drive similar to
the TerraWatt drive and attached the google patent version and another link
http://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/WO2011044588
Filed by this guy:
Joseph P. Firmage, 28,
I remember Joe Firmage from my MUFON days:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lg192CjeuK4
Good thing it wasn't an Incubus.
T
More tea-leaf reading : problems with the domestic certification
?
Andrea Rossi
August 31st, 2012 at 9:34 AM
Dear Koen Vandewalle:
We have all the resources necessary for a development of our technology,
based on our businessplant. I do not think we will have delays as for the
industrial
A cold fusion nuclear reactor that that puts out as much energy and density
as a common nuclear reactor cannot possibly be dangerous.
2012/8/31 Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com
More tea-leaf reading : problems with the domestic certification ?
Andrea Rossi
August 31st, 2012 at 9:34
Either (1) Medical Marijuana patient...(2) a surge of quarks/gluons to the
synapses. Either one will trigger similar events
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 1:36 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
I remember Joe Firmage from my MUFON days:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lg192CjeuK4
Good
I agree with the condensation/ultra dense matter in the voids. We can agree
to disagree about where the energy actually comes from for now. It would
be nice to have a mass and energy balance around what is going on in a
controlled lab setting, I am sure that is somewhat tricky.
The
It is if you don't know what the reaction is!
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
A cold fusion nuclear reactor that that puts out as much energy and
density as a common nuclear reactor cannot possibly be dangerous.
2012/8/31 Alan J Fletcher
Hey, I see Bruce's web page is still active:
http://www.brucedepalma.com/
His early passing is attributed to his heavy alcohol consumption by
those who knew him:
http://www.padrak.com/ine/DEPALMA2.html
Homopolar generators are very interesting but not OU.
T
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton
I remember Joe Firmage from my MUFON days:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lg192CjeuK4
Good thing it wasn't an Incubus.
Are you sure it wasn't some kind of demon, in disguise
http://exmormon.org/phorum/read.php?2,197023
5th message down from
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 1:52 PM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote:
Either (1) Medical Marijuana patient...(2) a surge of quarks/gluons to the
synapses. Either one will trigger similar events
I vote for the magic mushroom (amanita muscaria):
Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
When a scientist becomes an expert in his field, he has his entire
life invested in the paradigm. It becomes a thing of faith mistaken
for knowledge. It would take an epiphany tantamount to a blind man
suddenly gaining sight to change. It's a great
See:
http://nextbigfuture.com/2012/08/sri-international-will-soon-sign.html
In the field of politics and public relations, the words that are used are
tools to influence perceptions. Some words are good and some words are bad
in forming impressions and connections in people’s minds. LENR and CANR
are acronyms and contain bad words in themselves. These terms should not
If a piece of metal/wire just sits there and generates long term anomalous
heat while slooowly losing mass, which is what this is doing, let's just
call it evaporation like we do with water, sounds soothing. We might even
have RossiSauna franchises very soon.
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 2:38 PM,
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
In the field of politics and public relations, the words that are used are
tools to influence perceptions. Some words are good and some words are bad
in forming impressions and connections in people’s minds.
This will be 0.0001% as important as the
I imagine a discussion along these lines: Chemically Assisted
Transmutation Reaction (CATR) expert: Yes, certain chemical reactions are
known to produce tritium. Those reactions should be regulated by the NRC or
band. Those reactions use the hydrogen isotope deuterium. Chemical
reactions
Like the Tokay says: Easy, Jojo, easy. Now send me a worm.http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DUoeOjJV5Eogsa=Uei=-wlBUI_3H4nm9AT6koHIBAved=0CDMQFjAJsig2=iTw9bdo_YGFX4AYgYZ841gusg=AFQjCNHljJVIAcaelC656xfMvHHbkH45ogJed, you could write a best seller book out of this
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
Chemically Assisted Transmutation Reaction (CATR) expert: Yes, certain
chemical reactions are known to produce tritium. Those reactions should be
regulated by the NRC or band. Those reactions use the hydrogen isotope
deuterium.
A chemical reaction cannot
Chemical transmutation, is what is going on. The physics commumity must
come to terms with this reality.
Chemically Assisted Transmutation Reaction (CATR) reactions are produced
through the action of electrons not neutrons.
The NRC regulates the use of neutrons not electrons.
If no neutrons are
Another route McKubre raised was direct political action to get funding
earmarked so as to bypass the bureaucratic pecking order.
I tried that with R. T. Jones' oblique all wing design and it backfired.
What happened was I visited Jones at his home in the hills above Silicon
Valley around the
The U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission
The NRC is the Federal agency responsible protecting the health and safety
of the public and the environment by licensing and regulating the civilian
uses of the following radioactive materials:
- Source material
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
Chemical transmutation, is what is going on. The physics commumity must
come to terms with this reality.
They all have to agree with you. Because . . . Why exactly?
Chemically Assisted Transmutation Reaction (CATR) reactions are produced
through the
*They all have to agree with you. Because . . . Why exactly?*
Because it is a truth of nature and the way the universe works.
The NRC does regulate X-Ray machines but only to insure that the radiation
produced is below the statutory limits.
If the LENR reactor is well shielded, and produces no
Byproduct material http://www.nrc.gov/materials/byproduct-mat.html (material
that is made radioactive in a reactor, and residue from the milling of
uranium and thorium)
I would think that any byproducts, even only unstable for seconds, would
trigger this.
I am just guessing
On Friday, August
James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
The next year, when the money was supposed to become available, NASA HQ
punished NASA Ames for going over their head (even though it was a
grassroots organization chaired by yours truly) by reducing the
discretionary budget for NASA Ames by an amount
If those byproducts decay and stabilize either while the reactor is in
operation, while the reactor is cooling down, or otherwise when those
byproducts are inaccessible to the operator then those byproducts will have
been considered stable upon radiological analysis and not subjest to
regulation.
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
I am not being cynical. That's the way the world works. Almost all of it.
The only reason some corporations deviate from that pattern is because they
love money more than politics.
That's why I concluded, in 1992 when
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 4:02 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote:
I am not being cynical. That's the way the world works. Almost all of it.
The only reason some corporations deviate from that pattern is because
terms are important for public perception, and today politician behavoir is
more related to poling than to experts...
of course LENR should be checked as not explosive, not radioactive. it
seems so, and with the unknown we could add radiation detectors to shutdown
in case of black swan... job
At 02:49 PM 8/31/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote:
The physics establishment is not going to throw away the definitions
of chemistry versus nuclear physics, and accept unconditionally that
there is such a thing as chemical transmutation, and that we
should not worry about the effects of that
James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
That's why I concluded, in 1992 when this all occurred (on top of the
problems with NASA basically thumbing their collective noses at the Launch
Services Purchase Act of 1990) the only way to attack
bureaucratic intransigence in both the private as well
Tolstoy was far more elegant.
T
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 3:26 PM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote:
To further that thought...
Massive black holes are the ultimate sub-woofer and micro black holes the
ultimate high-range tweeter.
WISE support:
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote:
As I said at ICCF17, in the whole history of the field, we have spent
roughly as much money as people spend on semiconductor RD in a single day.
I repeat: by the standards of industrial RD, cold fusion is one day old.
Brilliant comment, Jed.
See:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2012/aug/31/martin-fleischmann
- Jed
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
That's why I concluded, in 1992 when this all occurred (on top of the
problems with NASA basically thumbing their collective noses at the Launch
Services Purchase Act of 1990)
He promised steam.
He did not deliver visible or burning hot steam but apparently he found
a way to make a living from endless, never fullfilled promises.
I want to know, how to do this.
It is a wonderful fascinating endless story.
Peter
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 6:16 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
See:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2012/aug/31/martin-fleischmann
The market will decide.
Possibly the most unambiguous statement ever made by AR.
T
Visible steam is a contradiction of terms.
T
Here are the preprint titles and abstracts that are present the flash
memory card, from my EndNote database. This list is too big for one
Vortex message, so I will send a second in a moment.
- Jed
- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Reference Type: Conference Proceedings
Record Number: 4106
Am 01.09.2012 00:31, schrieb Terry Blanton:
Visible steam is a contradiction of terms.
T
Ever seen a locomotive?
Here are the others:
Reference Type: Conference Proceedings
Record Number: 4062
Author: S. Park and F. Gordon
Year of Conference: 2012
Title: Cold Fusion -- From the Laboratory to the World
Conference Name: 17th International Conference on Cold Fusion
Conference Location: Daejeon, Korea
Well, there's ash there too...
2012/8/31 Peter vort...@online.de
Am 01.09.2012 00:31, schrieb Terry Blanton:
Visible steam is a contradiction of terms.
T
Ever seen a locomotive?
--
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 6:32 PM, Peter vort...@online.de wrote:
Ever seen a locomotive?
Yep, but never steam.
steam [steem]
noun
1. water in the form of an invisible gas or vapor.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/steam?s=t
T
Keep Your Eye on the Doughnut, not on the Hole!
Any time or money spent on Pd/D2O system is a waste and counterproductive,
yet most of the old guard cold fusion workers persist in their opinions
about Pd/D2O.
It produces tritium, neutrons and is energy poor. Relative to cool fusion,
a minuscule
Am 01.09.2012 00:43, schrieb Terry Blanton:
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 6:32 PM, Peter vort...@online.de wrote:
Ever seen a locomotive?
Yep, but never steam.
steam [steem]
noun
1. water in the form of an invisible gas or vapor.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/steam?s=t
T
Now, I am
At 1200C, Rossi has quickly gone beyond the realm of steam and into the
broader vistas of molten salts and liquid metals. Rossi has already left
your minds behind. Do not concern yourselves with steam. It is the old
technology of last week.
Cheers: Axil
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 6:43 PM, Terry
blush
Don't forget the crater in the floor in Salt Lake City and the explosion in
Tadahiko Mizuno's experiment. Key on explosion in the LENR-CANR.org
search window.
We think we know what is going on. Do we?
One must remain open.
T
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 6:49 PM, Peter vort...@online.de wrote:
Now, I am not too young and I have seen steam.
http://t1.ftcdn.net/jpg/00/43/96/34/400_F_43963401_p5DQJ2MFRH4CCTs4OQDDHUnmH9rKwESb.jpg
I think I can. I think I can.
:-)
T
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
One must remain open.
When I say open, I mean that we are here assuming a single process
is in play. It is indeed possible that we see multiple quantum
reactions now that we can operate in the nano world. It is almost
I have a suspicion that the 1200 C device quickly becomes an 600 C device when
useful heat energy is being extracted. Think of the open circuit voltage of a
source with a finite resistance.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Have patience grasshopper.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Peter vort...@online.de
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:30 pm
Subject: [Vo]:I admire Mr. Andrea Rossi
He promised steam.
He did not deliver visible or burning hot steam but apparently he found
a way
I tend to agree with you Terry. We are seeing many new miracles now that the
proper instrumentation is available. How many times has NASA placed a new
better measuring device into space which has not opened a floodgate of new
discoveries? Very few can anticipate what these new wonders will
Of course we do not know what is going on. That will remain the operational
mode until the theories can predict future performance of the devices and allow
us to design ones that do not take out the neighborhood.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com
To:
And I am sure those are just the really big black holes we can see. They
come in all masses depending upon age, location and how much matter
initially collided/collapsed and many probably contain past solar systems
and probably past civilizations. I'll bet they far far outnumber humans it
is
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 8:53 PM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote:
Its just gravity
There is no such thing as gravity. The earth sucks.
Sorry, I could not resist.
Have you noticed how a spiral galaxy resembles a water drain?
T
I guess since massive black holes at the center of most galaxies warp
spacetime you are probably right. Solar systems roll right around the
drain into the hole.
On Friday, August 31, 2012, Terry Blanton wrote:
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 8:53 PM, ChemE Stewart
cheme...@gmail.comjavascript:;
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 9:05 PM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote:
I guess since massive black holes at the center of most galaxies warp
spacetime you are probably right. Solar systems roll right around the drain
into the hole.
Okay, that given, then explore the possibility that we
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 9:15 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
Okay, that given, then explore the possibility that we might be
dealing with a mirror world, a world of negative energy on the other
side of absolute zero. This world might be populated with white holes
which maintain
*We think we know what is going on. Do we?*
* *
* *
* *
*One must remain open*.
I agree, being open minded is important.
It's important to not permit the SCAMS of yesterday to effect the LENR
systems of tomorrow.
The noble gas reaction that underpins the Papp engine is the most likely
For the new student, we start here:
http://openseti.org/Docs/HotsonPart1.pdf
(Don't miss the delightful sidebar on p. 1)
T
Sorry about the small font
Steven Hawking demonstrated with quantum mechanics that a black hole
emits Hawking
radiation http://www.universetoday.com/40856/hawking-radiation/ and can
come to thermal equilibrium. That same thermal equilibrium stays unchanged
in time reversal. So, according to
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 9:30 PM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote:+
So, according to Hawking the
reverse of a black hole in thermal equilibrium is a black hole in thermal
equilibrium; meaning that a hole, black or white, is the same thing.
Precisely! Now read your homework assignment
In case you missed it:
http://openseti.org/Docs/HotsonPart1.pdf
T
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 9:15 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 9:05 PM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote:
I guess since massive black holes at the center of most galaxies warp
spacetime you are probably right. Solar systems roll right around the drain
In honor of Gnorts, Mr Alien, the Science Channel is doing a marathon
on Apollo (the mission, not the god). There is a lot of information
there that I never knew.
And, tonight we have a rare blue moon. The man therein is so sad.
Why do we not have a president with the courage of JFK who
James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
I doubt that an economic or structural panacea exists.
Of course not.
However, to throw your hands up and say that no economic or structural
modifications are worth while is a bit too defeatist for my taste.
Not true. I favor incremental changes. A
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:
Is the kinetic energy in that world also negative so that when a
particle with negative kinetic energy collides with a particle of
equal but positive kinetic energy the result is zero energy?
I think there is a Planck
OOps! Rounding error. Planck time =5.4x10^-44s.
T
Note that these epos are fermions; so, no (little) mass is involved.
I guess we are speaking of energy of spin momentum.
And also note that these particles have half integer spin; so, their
rotation cycle is 720 degrees. Hence the requirement for more than
1/2 of the Planck time cycle. It
I tend to agree with Axil, i think the nanopowder is a distraction if you
want to generate power. Powder may be mainly good for transmutations and
maybe heat transfer.
I think both a Papp type engine and possibly the Terrawatt Research
magnetic drive are an impulse/shock type drive with charge,
On second thought, it only requires a difference in spin phase for a
net energy release.
Late, going to bed.
T
Gravity is ALWAYS involved, even for massless particles.
Massless particles are known to experience the same gravitational
acceleration as other particles (which provides empirical evidence for
the equivalence
principle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equivalence_principle) because
they do have
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzLobQxY6gg
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.comwrote:
A cold fusion nuclear reactor that that puts out as much energy and
density as a common nuclear reactor cannot possibly be dangerous.
2012/8/31 Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com
It's a question with many nuances. I generally agree with Jed about the
realities and the regulatory issues.
Yet at the same time, we have an example: the terminology change from NMR
to MRI. It was significant from perspective of consumer acceptance, and
therefore it was economically significant.
As I found for some unknown reason I was unable to respond directly to the
member Peter here is my response to him in a new thread:
I too admire Andrea Rossi and all people like him who seem capable of rising
again and again from adversity. Even after having been through the wringer of
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