[Vo]:ICCF-18 Duncan and CBS 60 Minutes

2013-07-21 Thread Ron Kita
Greetings Vortex-L, I am not sure IF it was discussed here, but IMHO I feel there is a strong possibilty that Chancellor Duncan invited Scott Pelley to ICCF-18. 60 Minutes is long over due for a LENR-CF update and this could just be the venue, IF not now..then when?? Respectfully, Ron Kita,

[Vo]:Defkalion video from last year

2013-07-21 Thread H Veeder
This is a Defkalion video from last year. I don't remember seeing it and perhaps others missed it as well. The liquid cooling system is shown and explained with a brief shot of the Hyperion unit itself. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=KwZf89XLzNE Harry

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion video from last year

2013-07-21 Thread H Veeder
On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 1:25 PM, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: This is a Defkalion video from last year. I don't remember seeing it and perhaps others missed it as well. The liquid cooling system is shown and explained with a brief shot of the Hyperion unit itself.

[Vo]:Preparing for the Defkalion demos of 22 and 23 July

2013-07-21 Thread Peter Gluck
My dear friends. Tomorrow will take place the first public demo of Defkalion's Hyperion. Anticipating this Event, I have published today: http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2013/07/defkalion-is-re-defining-success-in.html re my vision about Defkalion's professional virtues and:

Re: [Vo]:Preparing for the Defkalion demos of 22 and 23 July

2013-07-21 Thread Alan Fletcher
From: Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2013 11:26:41 AM Subject: [Vo]:Preparing for the Defkalion demos of 22 and 23 July http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2013/07/test-protocol-for-public-demo-test-code.html the essential protocol of the demo of Defkalion. Cop of

Re: [Vo]:Preparing for the Defkalion demos of 22 and 23 July

2013-07-21 Thread Mark Gibbs
What do people expect these demos will show? What could make them convincing or unconvincing? If you reply either publicly or privately, please let me know if I may cite your name if I quote you. [mg] On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote: My dear friends.

Re: [Vo]:Preparing for the Defkalion demos of 22 and 23 July

2013-07-21 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2013-07-21 20:38, Alan Fletcher wrote: Cop of 1.1 Good enough for science, but not dramatic enough for PR. According to an insider [...] it will actually show a ~6-7x energy gain, which is 1.1x As usual the critical part will be measuring input energy. They will use this energy meter:

Re: [Vo]:Preparing for the Defkalion demos of 22 and 23 July

2013-07-21 Thread Moab Moab
The people who found the e-cat 3rd party test unconvincing will also find this demonstration unconvincing. On the forums the naysayers are already ridiculing the CICAP participant. The press participants Raymond Zreick (italian Focus) and Mats Lewan (Nyteknik) will be dismissed as LENR-promoters.

Re: [Vo]:Preparing for the Defkalion demos of 22 and 23 July

2013-07-21 Thread blaze spinnaker
To be fair, they have a point. Why bother with the CICAP guy? All the guy can really do is shrug his shoulders and say it looked interesting but open to fraud. Simple undeniable fact - until schematics are released for third party replication (after patents applied for), the world will not be

Re: [Vo]:Preparing for the Defkalion demos of 22 and 23 July

2013-07-21 Thread Alan Fletcher
From: Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2013 12:04:09 PM As usual the critical part will be measuring input energy. They will use this energy meter: http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/579510.pdf Range: 45 to 65Hz; It doesn't even seem to be broadband. ie No

Re: [Vo]:Preparing for the Defkalion demos of 22 and 23 July

2013-07-21 Thread Alain Sepeda
Mistoro on 22passi give more details. http://www.lenr-forum.com/showthread.php?2136-Defkalion-Demo-During-ICCF-18-(Milano-)p=5502#post5502 the reactor have started and the COP is increasing from 6, probably above 7... the COP1.1 is the same target as the Nelson test, but it is a minimum to rule

Re: [Vo]:Preparing for the Defkalion demos of 22 and 23 July

2013-07-21 Thread Daniel Rocha
OUTPUT Load: VON 2.5 VAC/DC max. 70 mA, VOFF 260 VAC/DC max It seems capable of displaying DC. -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com

Re: [Vo]:Preparing for the Defkalion demos of 22 and 23 July

2013-07-21 Thread Alan Fletcher
From: Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2013 12:55:37 PM= OUTPUT Load: VON 2.5 VAC/DC max. 70 mA, VOFF 260 VAC/DC max It seems capable of displaying DC. That's *OUTPUT*, not *INPUT* : it sends a series of PULSES (AC or DC) to an external meter based on the

Re: [Vo]:Preparing for the Defkalion demos of 22 and 23 July

2013-07-21 Thread Daniel Rocha
So, it is capable of measuring AC power, it doesn't filter it out. -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com

Re: [Vo]:Preparing for the Defkalion demos of 22 and 23 July

2013-07-21 Thread Alain Sepeda
if the AC voltage is good sinusoid, there is no more need to measure harmonics current. they hold no active power. note the tha 45-65Hz is the self-power constraints, not the spectrum analysis ability. the sampling is 1600 samples/s @ 50Hz, thus 800Hz. if one can ruleout huge voltage above

Re: [Vo]:Preparing for the Defkalion demos of 22 and 23 July

2013-07-21 Thread Alan Fletcher
From: Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2013 11:26:41 AM Any confirmation that there will be a live demonstration at ICCF-18 (Tuesday)?

Re: [Vo]:Preparing for the Defkalion demos of 22 and 23 July

2013-07-21 Thread James Bowery
There have been a _lot_ of suggested techniques to make these public tests more convincing. One suggestion from the pseudonymous GoatGuy, who will probably change the goal posts if the suggestion is taken, is bulk calorimetry: recirculating the cooling water with the bulk of it buffered in a

Re: [Vo]:Preparing for the Defkalion demos of 22 and 23 July

2013-07-21 Thread Axil Axil
http://prod.sandia.gov/techlib/access-control.cgi/2009/097874.pdf SANDIA REPORT SAND2009-7874 Unlimited Release Printed November 2009 LDRD 140639 Final Report: Investigation of Transmutation Claims Curtis D. Mowry, J. Pace Van Devender, Jeffrey E. Reich, Richard P. Grant, and James

Re: [Vo]:Preparing for the Defkalion demos of 22 and 23 July

2013-07-21 Thread Eric Walker
On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Moab Moab moab2...@googlemail.com wrote: Regarding the setup of the demontration: The demonstration was not a scientific validation, thus nothing was validated.; Defkalion was fully in control of the setup.; The wires were probably rigged.; They could not

Re: [Vo]:Preparing for the Defkalion demos of 22 and 23 July

2013-07-21 Thread Jed Rothwell
Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: - a third-party black-box verification that is both independent and difficult to criticize (intended audience: academics and informed decision makers). It is the choice of vendors which approach to take. They should not make the mistake of

Re: [Vo]:Preparing for the Defkalion demos of 22 and 23 July

2013-07-21 Thread Axil Axil
Rossi has shown Defkalion Green Technologies that it was possible to build a functional and powerful Ni/H reactor. And that is all he did. This singular revelation inspired in them an instance of faith that miracles are possible as wrought by the enfeebled hands of man in contravention of all