I wonder if ST is now Rossi's Daddy.
He has worked with them before.
They have various USA offices:
http://www.st.com/stonline/contactus/contacts/index.php?type=5#USA
And now they have a lenr patent in their name.
I am also surprised how no one has stalked Rossi enough to see where he
goes to work
This is may seem kinda far out, but it claims that a nuclear false flag
attack was going to take place in Washington to start a war with Syria.
And the MP's were going to arrest Obama.
Did you notice that Cold fusion was treated much more in a balanced way in
Chinese and japanese .
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%B8%B8%E6%B8%A9%E6%A0%B8%E8%9E%8D%E5%90%88
translated:
They have 2 other applications:
https://www.google.com/patents/WO2001029844A1
https://www.google.com/patents/WO1997020318A1
I don't think they are related to Rossi.
--
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com
Years ago some Americans opposed to cold fusion tried to change this
article, and they tried to ban LENR-CANR.org. A Japanese moderator asked
them not to.
- Jed
This doesn't just seem kinda far out. It IS far out. Far, far out.
Farther out than the Voyager 1 spacecraft.
- Jed
Those are fairly old - filed in years 2000 and 1995, well before Rossi.
I am not sure they were working with Celani that early.
BTW, a recently published cold D+D fusion patent application is -
Deuterium Reactor -- US 20130235963 A1
ABSTRACT
The Deuterium Reactor is a fusion reactor whose
Of course LENR is denied by the West. The technology is a real and
profound danger to the West. It would undermine the economics of the
energy industries, on which the West is built, and it would give the
Third world, including China and India, great advantage. The people in
charge in the
-Original Message-
From: pagnu...@htdconnect.com
BTW, a recently published cold D+D fusion patent application is -
Deuterium Reactor -- US 20130235963 A1
ABSTRACT
The Deuterium Reactor is a fusion reactor whose design is based upon a
non-singular electrostatic required by the
It is hard for me to imagine that it is an intelligent desire to protect
economic rent for few against the western population...
Having worked in finance, in Internet bubble, I would rather blame it on
individual weakness (selfishness, ambition, greed, self delusion,
submission to easy) sewed to
The homeostatic mechanisms of these systems embody a kind of intelligence
that is all-too-frequently attributed to conspiracy. This is complicated
by the fact that genuine conspiratorial behavior is sometimes involved. It
is further complicated by the vague definition of conspiracy as the word
Jones Beene wrote:
-Original Message-
From: pagnu...@htdconnect.com
BTW, a recently published cold D+D fusion patent application is -
Deuterium Reactor -- US 20130235963 A1
ABSTRACT
The Deuterium Reactor is a fusion reactor whose design is based upon a
non-singular electrostatic
Interview with Pharis Williams
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IB2wIBhAoVs
_
-Original Message-
From: pagnu...@htdconnect.com
BTW, a recently published cold D+D
I agree, stupidly is certainly at the core of the problem. I think
the atom bomb provides a useful example of the situation. Early
during WWII, scientists understood that Germany was working on the
atom bomb and if they were successful, the power structure of the
world would change.
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Jones,
By a nonsingular potential, he means that the 1/r term must be incorrect
as r -- 0. I have not read his theory so I have no opinion.
The De Haas-van Alphen effect is a new one for me.
Interesting. I need to research it.
Whether it relates to
James, I have no idea what you mean to say here. No conspiracy is
involved or implied. The effect of LENR on the world's economy is
obvious to anyone who understands economics. This is reality, not some
proposed crazy idea.
On Sep 23, 2013, at 10:46 AM, James Bowery wrote:
The
Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
Of course LENR is denied by the West. The technology is a real and profound
danger to the West. It would undermine the economics of the energy
industries, on which the West is built, and it would give the Third world,
including China and India, great
Sorry, Ed, I should have clarified that I wasn't referring to you as having
posited a conspiracy theory. My abstractions may have been a bit too for
the present conversation...
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.comwrote:
James, I have no idea what you mean to
I wrote:
These improvements have been drastic in some cases. LED lighting takes
only about one-fifth of the electricity of incandescent lights.
Illumination is a large fraction of total energy use. See:
http://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.cfm?id=99t=3
QUOTE:
How much electricity is used for
I agree Bob, the world is not managed in order to increase everyone's
benefit. Jed tends to be an optimist about the future while I and
apparently you as well are more of a realist. The world is in a mess.
The West has created an unstable and unsustainable economic structure
and many parts
There are loads of theories that describe the processes that go on inside
the nucleus. In order to be taken seriously, each must be consistent with
the observed behavior of the subatomic processes that they describe as far
as the level of our understanding of those processes go.
Fro example. one
my sad vision is there is no vision...
some people think they are right, using bad heuristics.
some follow them by selfish interest to get chocolate medal or to earn
their life
some follow just because they feel right when they follow
some get convinced because they have no culture
some shut up
Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
For example, although the US is self-sufficient in energy, the cost is
controlled by the world market.
The U.S. is not self-sufficient in energy. We consume 97 quads. We import
24 quads (mainly oil) and export 10 quads (oil and coal). See:
I agree with your description when applied to the details, Alain.
However, the system is influenced by certain people based on their
self interest and wisdom, or lack thereof. We see this situation play
out throughout histoery. Some people use their power to improve while
others use it to
Good... perhaps I can try my approach from the angle opened up by the
problem of writing off capital investments in a debt saturated western
economy:
The bailout of the large financial institutions was an example of the kind
of 'panic' that results when a massive write-off of capital investments
Rob Dingemans manonbrid...@aim.com wrote:
Dear Jed,
On 23-9-2013 20:13, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Furthermore, decreasing the cost of energy is likely to improve first
world economies sooner than it improves third world countries or China,
since we have more high tech, we have more ways to grow
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 2:16 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
This doesn't just seem kinda far out. It IS far out. Far, far out.
Farther out than the Voyager 1 spacecraft.
Ok, but the problem here is that you have limits to what you will give
serious consideration.
While I know
James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
There is a similar unenlightened self-interest at work in preventing the
proper development and deployment of LENR. It is intelligent in that
sense and it has no incentive to become enlightened about its
self-interest.
There are therefore two
The scary part is that intelligent people would consider this claim
even plausible when the idea is obviously the hallucination of an
insane mind. Of course the government lies, of course it does bad
things, of course it cannot be trusted. But the government does
operate in predictable
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 8:41 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.comwrote:
The scary part is that intelligent people would consider this claim even
plausible when the idea is obviously the hallucination of an insane mind.
Of course the government lies, of course it does bad things, of course
Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
The scary part is that intelligent people would consider this claim even
plausible when the idea is obviously the hallucination of an insane mind.
Of course the government lies, of course it does bad things, of course it
cannot be trusted.
To some
John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote:
I disagree, if you are twisted, and want the power of fear over people to
control them with more draconian measures and to start a war because you
want people to support for conquest, and lowering the population,
overthrowing governments and because
Jed, do you believe that if you were in countries that had insane
governments, and you were raised in that culture and had a normal degree of
faith in that government. Would you have seen them as insane?
Hindsight is 20/20, you would not fall for that would you?
And if it was 1962 and operation
Dear Jed,
On 23-9-2013 20:13, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Furthermore, decreasing the cost of energy is likely to improve first
world economies sooner than it improves third world countries or
China, since we have more high tech, we have more ways to grow the
economy, and we import more energy per
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 9:22 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote:
I disagree, if you are twisted, and want the power of fear over people to
control them with more draconian measures and to start a war because you
want people to support for
John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote:
Jed, do you believe that if you were in countries that had insane
governments, and you were raised in that culture and had a normal degree of
faith in that government. Would you have seen them as insane?
I might. Many Japanese people did think their
This discussion is getting a bit out of hand. Although I find it interesting
to monitor the complex thoughts of my fellow vorts, I suggest that we attempt
to move on to issues that are in line with our normal conversations. Perhaps
someone might want to offer a location to which this topic
John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote:
There isn't enough money in all the insurance companies in the world to
cover the damages or pay off the policies. There are many wealthy people in
Washington, DC. The population density is high.
That is a good point, but the some of the same could
On Sep 23, 2013, at 3:43 PM, John Berry wrote:
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 9:22 AM, Jed Rothwell
jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote:
That is a good point, but the some of the same could have been
argued about the disruption of taking the WTC down and flying
I agree with David Robinson that we should drop this discussion, but I
would like to make a few more comments, and then I shall stop.
Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
The claim that the government was behind 9/11 is another example of how
willing people are to believe insane
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote:
Jed, do you believe that if you were in countries that had insane
governments, and you were raised in that culture and had a normal degree of
faith in that government. Would
You might notice that Pharis' theory that the patent was based on uses the
neo-coulombic potential. Some observant person might notice that the name of
my booth at NI Week was Neo- Coulombic- named after that potential. The same
person might notice that I wrote the preface for Pharis' book (
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 3:08 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
Perhaps someone might want to offer a location to which this topic could
be pursued.
Vortex-B? Southern Poverty Law Center? ;)
Eric
The most interesting and somewhat topic relevant portion of this discussion
is that of why belief systems that support trust in leadership, authority
and beliefs that support general social cohesion are likely to be strongly
selected in evolutionary terms.
If you are likely to go against the
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 8:24 PM, John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote:
The most interesting and somewhat topic relevant portion of this discussion
is that of why belief systems that support trust in leadership, authority
and beliefs that support general social cohesion are likely to be
reasonable amount of caution: the nsa has recruited double agents at
american companies to insert back doors into internet tech so they can spy
on both americans and those abroad.
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 8:24 PM, John
oh yeah, for truly depressing caution cynicism, read this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_States
Sure as hell hope we don't do that sort of thing anymore
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 9:27 PM, Blaze Spinnaker
blazespinna...@gmail.comwrote:
DJ Cravens,
Here is another variable mass theory for LENR -
Theories of variable mass particles and low energy nuclear phenomena
http://www.scribd.com/doc/139182265/Theories-of-variable-mass-particles-and-low-energy-nuclear-phenomena
I am not sure if it is related to Williams' approach.
-- Lou
Blaze, that kind of thing was one of the things I was alluding to.
The stuff that is now openly admitted to as 'Old News' is horrific.
But at the time it would have been considered an unreasonable conspiracy
theory.
And today similar things do happen, but they are dismissed as conspiracy
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