Re: [Vo]:war news in full development

2016-08-06 Thread Che
On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 9:10 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > I might add: It is damned craven of you to erase my messages. Despite your > provocations and baseless accusations, I have remained civil with you, and > in this instance I have provided only facts. Facts grounded in

Re: [Vo]:Problems with Rossi's flow meter described in court document

2016-08-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
Daniel Rocha wrote: Just like Penon. > Penon did not respond to this letter. However expert Penon may be, he cannot contradict what it says on the faceplate of the flow meter. It says: Minimum operational flow rate 1.6 m3 /hour Being an expert does give you license to

Re: [Vo]:war news in full development

2016-08-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
I might add: It is damned craven of you to erase my messages. Despite your provocations and baseless accusations, I have remained civil with you, and in this instance I have provided only facts. Facts grounded in conventional engineering. By denying this, and by erasing messages, you have

Re: [Vo]:Problems with Rossi's flow meter described in court document

2016-08-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
Daniel Rocha wrote: > "The turbine flow meter used for your measurements ." There is no proof > that the expert went there or how he got the information. He is just > questioning the type used and makes some calculations. > Give me a break! Of course he went there. Lots

[Vo]:Problems with Rossi's flow meter described in court document

2016-08-06 Thread a.ashfield
Jed, It strikes me as highly unlikely that whoever chose the flow meter (Penon?) would not talk to the manufacturer for advice on which model to get. I notice their catalog does not specify a minimum rate and with flow meters they generally run slower than they should below the bottom of the

Re: [Vo]:Problems with Rossi's flow meter described in court document

2016-08-06 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Thanks. Interesting read. On 08/06/2016 07:30 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Stephen A. Lawrence > wrote: Your link is apparently only useful to members of the NewVortex group on Yahoo. Okay. I uploaded the document here:

Re: [Vo]:Problems with Rossi's flow meter described in court document

2016-08-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
Daniel Rocha wrote: Alright. I am not in the mood for your temper tantrums. > I am not in the mood for your utter disregard for the facts. You should not invent nonsensical accusations that Murray did not see the instrument he described. He and the others looked at it

Re: [Vo]:Problems with Rossi's flow meter described in court document

2016-08-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
a.ashfield wrote: > It strikes me as highly unlikely that whoever chose the flow meter > (Penon?) would not talk to the manufacturer for advice on which model to > get. > Oh, I expect they did consult. Then they deliberately selected an instrument that gave the wrong

Re: [Vo]:Problems with Rossi's flow meter described in court document

2016-08-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
a.ashfield wrote: As for the stain marks, without actually seeing them, I doubt they mean > much. > Since you have not actually seen them, HOW CAN YOU DOUBT anything about them??!? That's crazy. Millions of dollars are at stake here. Has it not occurred to you that with

Re: [Vo]:Problems with Rossi's flow meter described in court document

2016-08-06 Thread Eric Walker
For anyone interested in the action, the minutiae of IH's reply are being pored over on LENR Forum with great enthusiasm. https://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/ (In several threads.) Eric On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 5:24 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: > Your link is apparently only

Re: [Vo]:Problems with Rossi's flow meter described in court document

2016-08-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Your link is apparently only useful to members of the NewVortex group on > Yahoo. > Okay. I uploaded the document here: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B6qvuFUMAp9HMEQyeHZlX256U1E - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Problems with Rossi's flow meter described in court document

2016-08-06 Thread Daniel Rocha
Just like Penon. 2016-08-06 21:38 GMT-03:00 Jed Rothwell : > . > Daniel, get a grip! At long last, Get A Grip. The guy who wrote Exhibit 5 > is an expert engineer. >

Re: [Vo]:Problems with Rossi's flow meter described in court document

2016-08-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
All Exhibits are here: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B5ZV0oKQafY4bHhOZHlBZFZ4MG8

Re: [Vo]:Problems with Rossi's flow meter described in court document

2016-08-06 Thread Daniel Rocha
On exhibit there are some pictures of stuff which looks like flowmeters (though I am not sure they are), page 3. They have a zigzag shape of mp130-nc-80NC and not the straight and chubby form of MWN130-80-NC 2016-08-06 22:32 GMT-03:00 Daniel Rocha : > It does give and it

Re: [Vo]:Problems with Rossi's flow meter described in court document

2016-08-06 Thread Daniel Rocha
Alright. I am not in the mood for your temper tantrums. 2016-08-06 23:09 GMT-03:00 Jed Rothwell : > Stop making up impossible nonsense. It is OVER. > > - Jed > >

Re: [Vo]:Problems with Rossi's flow meter described in court document

2016-08-06 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Your link is apparently only useful to members of the NewVortex group on Yahoo. It calls itself a "public" group but I couldn't get it to show me the file, none the less, and didn't immediately see a way to join it (yet another social networking site, just what everybody needs). I found a

Re: [Vo]:Problems with Rossi's flow meter described in court document

2016-08-06 Thread Daniel Rocha
exhibit 3 2016-08-06 22:39 GMT-03:00 Daniel Rocha : > On exhibit there are some pictures of stuff which looks like flowmeters > (though I am not sure they are), page 3. They have a zigzag shape of > mp130-nc-80NC > and not the straight and chubby form of MWN130-80-NC >

Re: [Vo]:war news in full development

2016-08-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
I copied the message "Problems with Rossi's flow meter described in court document" to your blog. You deleted it, twice. You need to face reality. When Rossi runs the wrong kind of flow meter in a pipe half full of water, it produces the wrong answer. This was deliberate, I am sure. People

Re: [Vo]:Problems with Rossi's flow meter described in court document

2016-08-06 Thread Daniel Rocha
http://www.apator.com/en/offer/water-and-heat-metering/volume-parts-for-heat-meters/mwn130-nc-mp130-nc There are 2 products on this page, with very similar specifications, mp130-nc-80NC has nearly the same exact specifications, save for the minimum volume. IH is probably blowing some hot air to

Re: [Vo]:Problems with Rossi's flow meter described in court document

2016-08-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
Daniel Rocha wrote: http://www.apator.com/en/offer/water-and-heat-metering/ > volume-parts-for-heat-meters/mwn130-nc-mp130-nc > > There are 2 products on this page, with very similar specifications, > mp130-nc-80NC has nearly the same exact specifications, save for the >

Re: [Vo]:Problems with Rossi's flow meter described in court document

2016-08-06 Thread Daniel Rocha
It does give and it is simple. For example: "The turbine flow meter used for your measurements ." There is no proof that the expert went there or how he got the information. He is just questioning the type used and makes some calculations. "was manufactured by Apator PoWoGaz. The model number

[Vo]:war news in full development

2016-08-06 Thread Peter Gluck
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2016/08/aug-6-2016-lenr-war-news-in-development.html let's see peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

[Vo]:Problems with Rossi's flow meter described in court document

2016-08-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
I stated here several times that in my opinion the flow meter used in the 1 year test of Rossi's 1-MW reactor was probably in error. It probably over-estimated the flow. I said that in the data I have seen, it measured 36,000 kg of water every day, exactly. I found this number impossible to