Re: [Vo]:12 years from now

2017-03-17 Thread John Shop
On 17/03/2017 9:43 PM, bobcook39...@gmail.com wrote: >> "consciousness, . . . is a supernatural phenomenon." > RIGHT-ON. Like virtual quarks and spooky action at a distance, and > other real phenomena. I am surprised that you agreed so readily that telepathy between consciousnesses is a real

Re: [Vo]:12 years from now

2017-03-17 Thread John Shop
On 17/03/2017 10:04 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > wrote: I don't think machines will be able to duplicate what a bird brain can do, any time, ever. Machines which we can invent are things that we can understand almost completely. I do not think

Re: [Vo]:12 years from now

2017-03-17 Thread John Shop
On 18/03/2017 2:23 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: The fact is that almost every educated and intelligent person would regard telepathy as supernatural . . . First, I regard it as mythical, not supernatural. There is no solid evidence for it. Second, I am sure that if does exist, it is natural,

Re: [Vo]:12 years from now

2017-03-17 Thread John Shop
On 17/03/2017 2:08 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: . . . I see no reason why this will not happen sooner or later. Machines are far from being able to do this now, because they have brains roughly the size of a bird's brain. Birds do not understand human language. . . . So I believed until quite

Re: [Vo]:Fission may be the best fit for future LENR

2017-07-24 Thread John Shop
As the smoke cleared Brian Ahern mounted the barricade and roared out: I use outlook for e-mails.How do you block certain senders? From: Che . . . Best to filter all vortex mail to its own folder

Re: [Vo]:Successful Mechanical OU

2018-06-04 Thread John Shop
On 5/06/2018 2:40 AM, Vibrator ! wrote: Your view of what is conserved and why is too simple, and essentially incomplete. All force interactions perform work against the vacuum activity manifesting that force - the discrete, quantised energy exchanges between the respective force carriers in

Re: [Vo]:Successful Mechanical OU

2018-06-04 Thread John Shop
On 5/06/2018 12:30 AM, John Berry wrote: John, there might be the odd exception. I can give you an example that seems to break the CoM and CoE, it isn't practical. Now there might be an explanation, MAYBE it produces a photos that explains the propulsive effects... But I doubt it. Now, the

Re: [Vo]:Successful Mechanical OU

2018-06-04 Thread John Shop
On 5/06/2018 4:32 AM, Vibrator ! wrote: LOL have i not just clearly delineated the terms of their equivalence? Allow me to put it more tangibly: - Apply a 9.81 N force vertically between two 1 kg masses, the moment both are dropped into freefall. - We observe a kind of inverted 'slinky drop'

Re: [Vo]:Successful Mechanical OU

2018-06-05 Thread John Shop
On 5/06/2018 1:51 PM, John Berry wrote: Actually, I have another one... Take a large loop apply a current, we see that each side of the loop experiences a pushing outwards. Now, we remove one side, from the loop and replace it with capacitor plates. No we energize a current through our broken

Re: [Vo]:Successful Mechanical OU

2018-06-04 Thread John Shop
On 4/06/2018 11:19 PM, Vibrator ! wrote: . . . The only precondition there is that we can apply a force between two inertias, which nonetheless only accelerates one of them. This I suggest is your problem. If you apply a force between two masses or inertias, then one must accelerate in the

Re: [Vo]:Successful Mechanical OU

2018-06-04 Thread John Shop
On 1/06/2018 5:35 AM, Vibrator ! wrote: . . . The thing is, a real model is inherently suspect - defeating its ostensible purpose. Batteries and motors can be hidden, etc. If you make it out of clear perspex with the minimum steel parts like bearings, springs, etc then there is nowhere to

Re: [Vo]:Successful Mechanical OU

2018-06-04 Thread John Shop
On 5/06/2018 12:37 AM, Vibrator ! wrote: Consider a 1 kg weight, connected by a pulley cord to another mass that slides horizontally without friction. You may verify that the rate of change of net system momentum is a constant, invariant of the ratio of gravitating to non-gravitating mass -

Re: [Vo]:A simple example of Mechanical Over-Unity

2019-02-04 Thread John Shop
Hi Vibrator, Since you NEED to know, I will point out where the fallacy lies. When the orbiting motors activate to stop the orbiting rotors from rotating, you have neglected the reaction torque of these motors. The reaction torque acts back on the central rotor, also stopping its rotation.

Re: [Vo]:A simple example of Mechanical Over-Unity

2019-02-04 Thread John Shop
d of twice the original rotation rate. I suspect that this action takes exactly the 8J that gets added to the system giving a total of 16 after this action. Moving the orbiting masses to their respective orbiting centres requires no net energy. On 5/02/2019 11:03 am, John Shop wrote: Hi Vibrat