Re: [Vo]:Italian minor, sucess in cold fusion... any more info
basically it is plasma in electrolytic cell, with H2O split by electrolysis, then H2 split by high current creating a plasma, and recombinating befause of high temperature. the question is whether the LENR reaction add some energy to the electric energy provided... it seems easy to make, but the electrodes are destroyed quickly and calorimetry is very hard, and have to be conclusive before the electrodes are destroyed. 2014-07-30 23:40 GMT+02:00 Ken Deboer barlaz...@gmail.com: excuse my ignorance, but isn't this just hydrogen burning in oxygen, and just like the h-cat? ken On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote: what is the evidence of cold fusion. I don't see any calorimetry. it seems to be Mizuno electrolysis, buthow do they prove LENR ? gamma (few)? neutrons (normally fewer)? tritium detection ? 2014-07-30 22:12 GMT+02:00 Giovanni Santostasi gsantost...@gmail.com: This is the youtube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7WjzYflPYI On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote: http://iltirreno.gelocal.it/pistoia/cronaca/2014/02/02/news/a-13-anni-riproducono-la-fusione-a-freddo-1.8591445 it seems to be a Mizuno, but very few details... does anyone have better data? --- At 13 reproduce the cold fusion The experiment of three boys in the garage of the home of one of them: No minor he had succeeded Pistoia also has its own via Panisperna boys.Matthew and Ivan are Matteini Perrella, with the collaboration of Julia Ricciardi. Compared to Fermi, Amaldi, Majorana and other eminent physicists, very young, in the thirties of the last century realized in the laboratory, the first nuclear reactor, physicists Pistoia are still young, very young indeed.They have 13 years old and attending the 3rd Q of the school Marconi Via Puccini. Early last month have carried out an experiment in the garage at home, they say confidently documented, the only juvenile in the world to have succeeded.This is the cold fusion. The cold nuclear fusion, advocated for decades by scientists not only because it would allow to produce nuclear energy without producing temibilissime slag, is a generic name given to the alleged nature of nuclear reactions, which would occur at pressures and temperatures much lower than those needed for obtain nuclear fusion hot, for which are instead necessary temperatures of the order of one million kelvin and plasma density very high. Many scientists are skeptical: to date, the very existence of these phenomena has not been demonstrated conclusively, on the contrary to the prevailing opinion in the scientific community is that all the evidence proposed to be due to measurement errors or non-nuclear phenomena. The fact is that the boys have done the experiment Pistoia, reproducing, as they called the same guys they shot a video on Youtube, a star in a jar.Thanks to my father, an engineer in 'electronic company - says Matthew, who loves physics and experiments since piccolossimo, while Ivan is the computer of the group - and Julius Nesti who supported us in logistics, we could set up the garage at home mine with all the necessary equipment: voltmeter, ammeter, herzometro and what you need to succeed. A basic table for discharge to the ground, otherwise it ran the risk of being electrocuted terrible, or burned by temperatures in the range of 3-4000 degrees or, again, it exploded all over. The experiment, which took place on January 3, eventually succeeded after twenty black smoke. The whole thing lasted about half an hour, no more and left us amazed, as well as very satisfied. The first practical and tangible result of the fusion describe the boys: We have produced a soapy liquid that does not produce any toxin and we washed their hands. An effect of the experiment, tell Matthew and others, was to be put out of televisions and mobile phones due to the strong electromagnetic field. At school, classmates and teachers are proud of their young scientists, but would point out the teacher of astronomy, they did it all by yourself. Francis Albonetti
[Vo]:Italian minor, sucess in cold fusion... any more info
http://iltirreno.gelocal.it/pistoia/cronaca/2014/02/02/news/a-13-anni-riproducono-la-fusione-a-freddo-1.8591445 it seems to be a Mizuno, but very few details... does anyone have better data? --- At 13 reproduce the cold fusion The experiment of three boys in the garage of the home of one of them: No minor he had succeeded Pistoia also has its own via Panisperna boys.Matthew and Ivan are Matteini Perrella, with the collaboration of Julia Ricciardi. Compared to Fermi, Amaldi, Majorana and other eminent physicists, very young, in the thirties of the last century realized in the laboratory, the first nuclear reactor, physicists Pistoia are still young, very young indeed.They have 13 years old and attending the 3rd Q of the school Marconi Via Puccini. Early last month have carried out an experiment in the garage at home, they say confidently documented, the only juvenile in the world to have succeeded.This is the cold fusion. The cold nuclear fusion, advocated for decades by scientists not only because it would allow to produce nuclear energy without producing temibilissime slag, is a generic name given to the alleged nature of nuclear reactions, which would occur at pressures and temperatures much lower than those needed for obtain nuclear fusion hot, for which are instead necessary temperatures of the order of one million kelvin and plasma density very high. Many scientists are skeptical: to date, the very existence of these phenomena has not been demonstrated conclusively, on the contrary to the prevailing opinion in the scientific community is that all the evidence proposed to be due to measurement errors or non-nuclear phenomena. The fact is that the boys have done the experiment Pistoia, reproducing, as they called the same guys they shot a video on Youtube, a star in a jar.Thanks to my father, an engineer in 'electronic company - says Matthew, who loves physics and experiments since piccolossimo, while Ivan is the computer of the group - and Julius Nesti who supported us in logistics, we could set up the garage at home mine with all the necessary equipment: voltmeter, ammeter, herzometro and what you need to succeed. A basic table for discharge to the ground, otherwise it ran the risk of being electrocuted terrible, or burned by temperatures in the range of 3-4000 degrees or, again, it exploded all over. The experiment, which took place on January 3, eventually succeeded after twenty black smoke. The whole thing lasted about half an hour, no more and left us amazed, as well as very satisfied. The first practical and tangible result of the fusion describe the boys: We have produced a soapy liquid that does not produce any toxin and we washed their hands. An effect of the experiment, tell Matthew and others, was to be put out of televisions and mobile phones due to the strong electromagnetic field. At school, classmates and teachers are proud of their young scientists, but would point out the teacher of astronomy, they did it all by yourself. Francis Albonetti
Re: [Vo]:Italian minor, sucess in cold fusion... any more info
This is the youtube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7WjzYflPYI On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote: http://iltirreno.gelocal.it/pistoia/cronaca/2014/02/02/news/a-13-anni-riproducono-la-fusione-a-freddo-1.8591445 it seems to be a Mizuno, but very few details... does anyone have better data? --- At 13 reproduce the cold fusion The experiment of three boys in the garage of the home of one of them: No minor he had succeeded Pistoia also has its own via Panisperna boys.Matthew and Ivan are Matteini Perrella, with the collaboration of Julia Ricciardi. Compared to Fermi, Amaldi, Majorana and other eminent physicists, very young, in the thirties of the last century realized in the laboratory, the first nuclear reactor, physicists Pistoia are still young, very young indeed.They have 13 years old and attending the 3rd Q of the school Marconi Via Puccini. Early last month have carried out an experiment in the garage at home, they say confidently documented, the only juvenile in the world to have succeeded.This is the cold fusion. The cold nuclear fusion, advocated for decades by scientists not only because it would allow to produce nuclear energy without producing temibilissime slag, is a generic name given to the alleged nature of nuclear reactions, which would occur at pressures and temperatures much lower than those needed for obtain nuclear fusion hot, for which are instead necessary temperatures of the order of one million kelvin and plasma density very high. Many scientists are skeptical: to date, the very existence of these phenomena has not been demonstrated conclusively, on the contrary to the prevailing opinion in the scientific community is that all the evidence proposed to be due to measurement errors or non-nuclear phenomena. The fact is that the boys have done the experiment Pistoia, reproducing, as they called the same guys they shot a video on Youtube, a star in a jar.Thanks to my father, an engineer in 'electronic company - says Matthew, who loves physics and experiments since piccolossimo, while Ivan is the computer of the group - and Julius Nesti who supported us in logistics, we could set up the garage at home mine with all the necessary equipment: voltmeter, ammeter, herzometro and what you need to succeed. A basic table for discharge to the ground, otherwise it ran the risk of being electrocuted terrible, or burned by temperatures in the range of 3-4000 degrees or, again, it exploded all over. The experiment, which took place on January 3, eventually succeeded after twenty black smoke. The whole thing lasted about half an hour, no more and left us amazed, as well as very satisfied. The first practical and tangible result of the fusion describe the boys: We have produced a soapy liquid that does not produce any toxin and we washed their hands. An effect of the experiment, tell Matthew and others, was to be put out of televisions and mobile phones due to the strong electromagnetic field. At school, classmates and teachers are proud of their young scientists, but would point out the teacher of astronomy, they did it all by yourself. Francis Albonetti
Re: [Vo]:Italian minor, sucess in cold fusion... any more info
That was much easier to follow for me than Randall Mill's demo and I don't speak Italien. Bravo! On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Giovanni Santostasi gsantost...@gmail.com wrote: This is the youtube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7WjzYflPYI On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote: http://iltirreno.gelocal.it/pistoia/cronaca/2014/02/02/news/a-13-anni-riproducono-la-fusione-a-freddo-1.8591445 it seems to be a Mizuno, but very few details... does anyone have better data? --- At 13 reproduce the cold fusion The experiment of three boys in the garage of the home of one of them: No minor he had succeeded Pistoia also has its own via Panisperna boys.Matthew and Ivan are Matteini Perrella, with the collaboration of Julia Ricciardi. Compared to Fermi, Amaldi, Majorana and other eminent physicists, very young, in the thirties of the last century realized in the laboratory, the first nuclear reactor, physicists Pistoia are still young, very young indeed.They have 13 years old and attending the 3rd Q of the school Marconi Via Puccini. Early last month have carried out an experiment in the garage at home, they say confidently documented, the only juvenile in the world to have succeeded.This is the cold fusion. The cold nuclear fusion, advocated for decades by scientists not only because it would allow to produce nuclear energy without producing temibilissime slag, is a generic name given to the alleged nature of nuclear reactions, which would occur at pressures and temperatures much lower than those needed for obtain nuclear fusion hot, for which are instead necessary temperatures of the order of one million kelvin and plasma density very high. Many scientists are skeptical: to date, the very existence of these phenomena has not been demonstrated conclusively, on the contrary to the prevailing opinion in the scientific community is that all the evidence proposed to be due to measurement errors or non-nuclear phenomena. The fact is that the boys have done the experiment Pistoia, reproducing, as they called the same guys they shot a video on Youtube, a star in a jar.Thanks to my father, an engineer in 'electronic company - says Matthew, who loves physics and experiments since piccolossimo, while Ivan is the computer of the group - and Julius Nesti who supported us in logistics, we could set up the garage at home mine with all the necessary equipment: voltmeter, ammeter, herzometro and what you need to succeed. A basic table for discharge to the ground, otherwise it ran the risk of being electrocuted terrible, or burned by temperatures in the range of 3-4000 degrees or, again, it exploded all over. The experiment, which took place on January 3, eventually succeeded after twenty black smoke. The whole thing lasted about half an hour, no more and left us amazed, as well as very satisfied. The first practical and tangible result of the fusion describe the boys: We have produced a soapy liquid that does not produce any toxin and we washed their hands. An effect of the experiment, tell Matthew and others, was to be put out of televisions and mobile phones due to the strong electromagnetic field. At school, classmates and teachers are proud of their young scientists, but would point out the teacher of astronomy, they did it all by yourself. Francis Albonetti
Re: [Vo]:Italian minor, sucess in cold fusion... any more info
Same experiment, better explaining what he is doing.. Cold Fusion Reactions by Renzo Mondaini: http://youtu.be/TEceEHgaXoU Op 30 jul. 2014 22:17 schreef ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com: That was much easier to follow for me than Randall Mill's demo and I don't speak Italien. Bravo! On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Giovanni Santostasi gsantost...@gmail.com wrote: This is the youtube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7WjzYflPYI On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote: http://iltirreno.gelocal.it/pistoia/cronaca/2014/02/02/news/a-13-anni-riproducono-la-fusione-a-freddo-1.8591445 it seems to be a Mizuno, but very few details... does anyone have better data? --- At 13 reproduce the cold fusion The experiment of three boys in the garage of the home of one of them: No minor he had succeeded Pistoia also has its own via Panisperna boys.Matthew and Ivan are Matteini Perrella, with the collaboration of Julia Ricciardi. Compared to Fermi, Amaldi, Majorana and other eminent physicists, very young, in the thirties of the last century realized in the laboratory, the first nuclear reactor, physicists Pistoia are still young, very young indeed.They have 13 years old and attending the 3rd Q of the school Marconi Via Puccini. Early last month have carried out an experiment in the garage at home, they say confidently documented, the only juvenile in the world to have succeeded.This is the cold fusion. The cold nuclear fusion, advocated for decades by scientists not only because it would allow to produce nuclear energy without producing temibilissime slag, is a generic name given to the alleged nature of nuclear reactions, which would occur at pressures and temperatures much lower than those needed for obtain nuclear fusion hot, for which are instead necessary temperatures of the order of one million kelvin and plasma density very high. Many scientists are skeptical: to date, the very existence of these phenomena has not been demonstrated conclusively, on the contrary to the prevailing opinion in the scientific community is that all the evidence proposed to be due to measurement errors or non-nuclear phenomena. The fact is that the boys have done the experiment Pistoia, reproducing, as they called the same guys they shot a video on Youtube, a star in a jar.Thanks to my father, an engineer in 'electronic company - says Matthew, who loves physics and experiments since piccolossimo, while Ivan is the computer of the group - and Julius Nesti who supported us in logistics, we could set up the garage at home mine with all the necessary equipment: voltmeter, ammeter, herzometro and what you need to succeed. A basic table for discharge to the ground, otherwise it ran the risk of being electrocuted terrible, or burned by temperatures in the range of 3-4000 degrees or, again, it exploded all over. The experiment, which took place on January 3, eventually succeeded after twenty black smoke. The whole thing lasted about half an hour, no more and left us amazed, as well as very satisfied. The first practical and tangible result of the fusion describe the boys: We have produced a soapy liquid that does not produce any toxin and we washed their hands. An effect of the experiment, tell Matthew and others, was to be put out of televisions and mobile phones due to the strong electromagnetic field. At school, classmates and teachers are proud of their young scientists, but would point out the teacher of astronomy, they did it all by yourself. Francis Albonetti
Re: [Vo]:Italian minor, sucess in cold fusion... any more info
But it seems to me all what happens here is that sparks are burning the hydrogen produced by the catalytic reaction. That is all. On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 3:21 PM, Marcus Winckers marcki...@gmail.com wrote: Same experiment, better explaining what he is doing.. Cold Fusion Reactions by Renzo Mondaini: http://youtu.be/TEceEHgaXoU Op 30 jul. 2014 22:17 schreef ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com: That was much easier to follow for me than Randall Mill's demo and I don't speak Italien. Bravo! On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Giovanni Santostasi gsantost...@gmail.com wrote: This is the youtube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7WjzYflPYI On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote: http://iltirreno.gelocal.it/pistoia/cronaca/2014/02/02/news/a-13-anni-riproducono-la-fusione-a-freddo-1.8591445 it seems to be a Mizuno, but very few details... does anyone have better data? --- At 13 reproduce the cold fusion The experiment of three boys in the garage of the home of one of them: No minor he had succeeded Pistoia also has its own via Panisperna boys.Matthew and Ivan are Matteini Perrella, with the collaboration of Julia Ricciardi. Compared to Fermi, Amaldi, Majorana and other eminent physicists, very young, in the thirties of the last century realized in the laboratory, the first nuclear reactor, physicists Pistoia are still young, very young indeed.They have 13 years old and attending the 3rd Q of the school Marconi Via Puccini. Early last month have carried out an experiment in the garage at home, they say confidently documented, the only juvenile in the world to have succeeded.This is the cold fusion. The cold nuclear fusion, advocated for decades by scientists not only because it would allow to produce nuclear energy without producing temibilissime slag, is a generic name given to the alleged nature of nuclear reactions, which would occur at pressures and temperatures much lower than those needed for obtain nuclear fusion hot, for which are instead necessary temperatures of the order of one million kelvin and plasma density very high. Many scientists are skeptical: to date, the very existence of these phenomena has not been demonstrated conclusively, on the contrary to the prevailing opinion in the scientific community is that all the evidence proposed to be due to measurement errors or non-nuclear phenomena. The fact is that the boys have done the experiment Pistoia, reproducing, as they called the same guys they shot a video on Youtube, a star in a jar.Thanks to my father, an engineer in 'electronic company - says Matthew, who loves physics and experiments since piccolossimo, while Ivan is the computer of the group - and Julius Nesti who supported us in logistics, we could set up the garage at home mine with all the necessary equipment: voltmeter, ammeter, herzometro and what you need to succeed. A basic table for discharge to the ground, otherwise it ran the risk of being electrocuted terrible, or burned by temperatures in the range of 3-4000 degrees or, again, it exploded all over. The experiment, which took place on January 3, eventually succeeded after twenty black smoke. The whole thing lasted about half an hour, no more and left us amazed, as well as very satisfied. The first practical and tangible result of the fusion describe the boys: We have produced a soapy liquid that does not produce any toxin and we washed their hands. An effect of the experiment, tell Matthew and others, was to be put out of televisions and mobile phones due to the strong electromagnetic field. At school, classmates and teachers are proud of their young scientists, but would point out the teacher of astronomy, they did it all by yourself. Francis Albonetti
Re: [Vo]:Italian minor, sucess in cold fusion... any more info
what is the evidence of cold fusion. I don't see any calorimetry. it seems to be Mizuno electrolysis, buthow do they prove LENR ? gamma (few)? neutrons (normally fewer)? tritium detection ? 2014-07-30 22:12 GMT+02:00 Giovanni Santostasi gsantost...@gmail.com: This is the youtube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7WjzYflPYI On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote: http://iltirreno.gelocal.it/pistoia/cronaca/2014/02/02/news/a-13-anni-riproducono-la-fusione-a-freddo-1.8591445 it seems to be a Mizuno, but very few details... does anyone have better data? --- At 13 reproduce the cold fusion The experiment of three boys in the garage of the home of one of them: No minor he had succeeded Pistoia also has its own via Panisperna boys.Matthew and Ivan are Matteini Perrella, with the collaboration of Julia Ricciardi. Compared to Fermi, Amaldi, Majorana and other eminent physicists, very young, in the thirties of the last century realized in the laboratory, the first nuclear reactor, physicists Pistoia are still young, very young indeed.They have 13 years old and attending the 3rd Q of the school Marconi Via Puccini. Early last month have carried out an experiment in the garage at home, they say confidently documented, the only juvenile in the world to have succeeded.This is the cold fusion. The cold nuclear fusion, advocated for decades by scientists not only because it would allow to produce nuclear energy without producing temibilissime slag, is a generic name given to the alleged nature of nuclear reactions, which would occur at pressures and temperatures much lower than those needed for obtain nuclear fusion hot, for which are instead necessary temperatures of the order of one million kelvin and plasma density very high. Many scientists are skeptical: to date, the very existence of these phenomena has not been demonstrated conclusively, on the contrary to the prevailing opinion in the scientific community is that all the evidence proposed to be due to measurement errors or non-nuclear phenomena. The fact is that the boys have done the experiment Pistoia, reproducing, as they called the same guys they shot a video on Youtube, a star in a jar.Thanks to my father, an engineer in 'electronic company - says Matthew, who loves physics and experiments since piccolossimo, while Ivan is the computer of the group - and Julius Nesti who supported us in logistics, we could set up the garage at home mine with all the necessary equipment: voltmeter, ammeter, herzometro and what you need to succeed. A basic table for discharge to the ground, otherwise it ran the risk of being electrocuted terrible, or burned by temperatures in the range of 3-4000 degrees or, again, it exploded all over. The experiment, which took place on January 3, eventually succeeded after twenty black smoke. The whole thing lasted about half an hour, no more and left us amazed, as well as very satisfied. The first practical and tangible result of the fusion describe the boys: We have produced a soapy liquid that does not produce any toxin and we washed their hands. An effect of the experiment, tell Matthew and others, was to be put out of televisions and mobile phones due to the strong electromagnetic field. At school, classmates and teachers are proud of their young scientists, but would point out the teacher of astronomy, they did it all by yourself. Francis Albonetti
Re: [Vo]:Italian minor, sucess in cold fusion... any more info
excuse my ignorance, but isn't this just hydrogen burning in oxygen, and just like the h-cat? ken On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote: what is the evidence of cold fusion. I don't see any calorimetry. it seems to be Mizuno electrolysis, buthow do they prove LENR ? gamma (few)? neutrons (normally fewer)? tritium detection ? 2014-07-30 22:12 GMT+02:00 Giovanni Santostasi gsantost...@gmail.com: This is the youtube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7WjzYflPYI On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote: http://iltirreno.gelocal.it/pistoia/cronaca/2014/02/02/news/a-13-anni-riproducono-la-fusione-a-freddo-1.8591445 it seems to be a Mizuno, but very few details... does anyone have better data? --- At 13 reproduce the cold fusion The experiment of three boys in the garage of the home of one of them: No minor he had succeeded Pistoia also has its own via Panisperna boys.Matthew and Ivan are Matteini Perrella, with the collaboration of Julia Ricciardi. Compared to Fermi, Amaldi, Majorana and other eminent physicists, very young, in the thirties of the last century realized in the laboratory, the first nuclear reactor, physicists Pistoia are still young, very young indeed.They have 13 years old and attending the 3rd Q of the school Marconi Via Puccini. Early last month have carried out an experiment in the garage at home, they say confidently documented, the only juvenile in the world to have succeeded.This is the cold fusion. The cold nuclear fusion, advocated for decades by scientists not only because it would allow to produce nuclear energy without producing temibilissime slag, is a generic name given to the alleged nature of nuclear reactions, which would occur at pressures and temperatures much lower than those needed for obtain nuclear fusion hot, for which are instead necessary temperatures of the order of one million kelvin and plasma density very high. Many scientists are skeptical: to date, the very existence of these phenomena has not been demonstrated conclusively, on the contrary to the prevailing opinion in the scientific community is that all the evidence proposed to be due to measurement errors or non-nuclear phenomena. The fact is that the boys have done the experiment Pistoia, reproducing, as they called the same guys they shot a video on Youtube, a star in a jar.Thanks to my father, an engineer in 'electronic company - says Matthew, who loves physics and experiments since piccolossimo, while Ivan is the computer of the group - and Julius Nesti who supported us in logistics, we could set up the garage at home mine with all the necessary equipment: voltmeter, ammeter, herzometro and what you need to succeed. A basic table for discharge to the ground, otherwise it ran the risk of being electrocuted terrible, or burned by temperatures in the range of 3-4000 degrees or, again, it exploded all over. The experiment, which took place on January 3, eventually succeeded after twenty black smoke. The whole thing lasted about half an hour, no more and left us amazed, as well as very satisfied. The first practical and tangible result of the fusion describe the boys: We have produced a soapy liquid that does not produce any toxin and we washed their hands. An effect of the experiment, tell Matthew and others, was to be put out of televisions and mobile phones due to the strong electromagnetic field. At school, classmates and teachers are proud of their young scientists, but would point out the teacher of astronomy, they did it all by yourself. Francis Albonetti
