Re: [Vo]:Re: CMNS: BLP's announcement
If they put 1,200 amps in at lets say 100 volts that is 120 KW. Its is an electrical fault. I seen this action and yes it will explode. There device is not sold state. LENR is a sold state reaction. I am not convinced. -Original Message- From: Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com To: CMNS c...@googlegroups.com Cc: VORTEX vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, Jan 14, 2014 10:52 am Subject: [Vo]:Re: CMNS: BLP's announcement 1) This part: 10 billion watts/10,000 of a liter = 1MW 2)This part: The disclosure of one of BlackLight’s patent application that was recently-filed worldwide, its 10 MW electric SF-CIHT cell system engineering design and simulation, high-speed video of millions of watts of supersonically expanding SF-CIHT cell plasma, Suppose it a video that has a less than 1us per frame, in spikes. So, they are claiming 1 or less joule for a few some spikes. That might be even an error or measurement... 2014/1/14 Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com This, this time seems to be remarkable progress- if true: http://www.financialpost.com/markets/news/BlackLight+Power+Announces+Game+Changing+Achievement+Generation+Millions/9384649/story.html Let's see- Mike Carrell remained BLP's faithful supporter. Not LENR, but energy Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CMNS group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cmns+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to c...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cmns. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com
Re: [Vo]:Re: CMNS: BLP's announcement
I was not aware of anything in the definition of LENR that says that it has to be solid state. Some of the better public examples at the moment are solid state, but I am aware of other systems that appear to be low energy nuclear reactions which appear to use other substrates, and I see no reason to have to invent a different term just because it is a different substrate. As for BLP, the information seems to be designed to be both informative and misleading, which appears to be almost a defining characteristic of LENR Nigel On 14/01/2014 16:07, fznidar...@aol.com wrote: If they put 1,200 amps in at lets say 100 volts that is 120 KW. Its is an electrical fault. I seen this action and yes it will explode. There device is not sold state. LENR is a sold state reaction. I am not convinced. -Original Message- From: Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com To: CMNS c...@googlegroups.com Cc: VORTEX vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, Jan 14, 2014 10:52 am Subject: [Vo]:Re: CMNS: BLP's announcement 1) This part: 10 billion watts/10,000 of a liter = 1MW 2)This part: The disclosure of one of BlackLight’s patent application that was recently-filed worldwide, its 10 MW electric SF-CIHT cell system engineering design and simulation, high-speed video of millions of watts of supersonically expanding SF-CIHT cell plasma, Suppose it a video that has a less than 1us per frame, in spikes. So, they are claiming 1 or less joule for a few some spikes. That might be even an error or measurement... 2014/1/14 Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com mailto:peter.gl...@gmail.com This, this time seems to be remarkable progress- if true: http://www.financialpost.com/markets/news/BlackLight+Power+Announces+Game+Changing+Achievement+Generation+Millions/9384649/story.html Let's see- Mike Carrell remained BLP's faithful supporter. Not LENR, but energy Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CMNS group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cmns+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:cmns%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to c...@googlegroups.com mailto:c...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cmns. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com mailto:danieldi...@gmail.com
Re: [Vo]:Re: CMNS: BLP's announcement
Clearly Nigel, a variety nuclear reactions can occur depending on applied energy and the conditions. Hot fusion occurs at the upper end of this range even in plasma. Cold fusion occurs at the lower end of this range in a NAE only within solids. Between these two extremes, a variety of reactions occur in solids and in plasma. BLP has focused their attention on forming the hydrino, not on nuclear reactions, although the conditions will clearly cause nuclear reactions. But, to properly focus a discussion, the term LENR refers to nuclear reactions that occur only at low applied energy in a solid structure. Ed Storms On Jan 14, 2014, at 9:51 AM, Nigel Dyer wrote: I was not aware of anything in the definition of LENR that says that it has to be solid state. Some of the better public examples at the moment are solid state, but I am aware of other systems that appear to be low energy nuclear reactions which appear to use other substrates, and I see no reason to have to invent a different term just because it is a different substrate. As for BLP, the information seems to be designed to be both informative and misleading, which appears to be almost a defining characteristic of LENR Nigel On 14/01/2014 16:07, fznidar...@aol.com wrote: If they put 1,200 amps in at lets say 100 volts that is 120 KW. Its is an electrical fault. I seen this action and yes it will explode. There device is not sold state. LENR is a sold state reaction. I am not convinced. -Original Message- From: Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com To: CMNS c...@googlegroups.com Cc: VORTEX vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, Jan 14, 2014 10:52 am Subject: [Vo]:Re: CMNS: BLP's announcement 1) This part: 10 billion watts/10,000 of a liter = 1MW 2)This part: The disclosure of one of BlackLight’s patent application that was recently-filed worldwide, its 10 MW electric SF-CIHT cell system engineering design and simulation, high-speed video of millions of watts of supersonically expanding SF-CIHT cell plasma, Suppose it a video that has a less than 1us per frame, in spikes. So, they are claiming 1 or less joule for a few some spikes. That might be even an error or measurement... 2014/1/14 Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com This, this time seems to be remarkable progress- if true: http://www.financialpost.com/markets/news/BlackLight+Power+Announces+Game+Changing+Achievement+Generation+Millions/9384649/story.html Let's see- Mike Carrell remained BLP's faithful supporter. Not LENR, but energy Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CMNS group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cmns+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to c...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cmns. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com
Re: [Vo]:Re: CMNS: BLP's announcement
http://www.google.com/patents/EP2548257A2?cl=en You should not mention theory in a patent. Mills mentions hydrino about 100 times in this latest patent application. If this quantum state of the electron is not found to exist as defined in his patent, is the patent still valid? On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.comwrote: Clearly Nigel, a variety nuclear reactions can occur depending on applied energy and the conditions. Hot fusion occurs at the upper end of this range even in plasma. Cold fusion occurs at the lower end of this range in a NAE only within solids. Between these two extremes, a variety of reactions occur in solids and in plasma. BLP has focused their attention on forming the hydrino, not on nuclear reactions, although the conditions will clearly cause nuclear reactions. But, to properly focus a discussion, the term LENR refers to nuclear reactions that occur only at low applied energy in a solid structure. Ed Storms On Jan 14, 2014, at 9:51 AM, Nigel Dyer wrote: I was not aware of anything in the definition of LENR that says that it has to be solid state. Some of the better public examples at the moment are solid state, but I am aware of other systems that appear to be low energy nuclear reactions which appear to use other substrates, and I see no reason to have to invent a different term just because it is a different substrate. As for BLP, the information seems to be designed to be both informative and misleading, which appears to be almost a defining characteristic of LENR Nigel On 14/01/2014 16:07, fznidar...@aol.com wrote: If they put 1,200 amps in at lets say 100 volts that is 120 KW. Its is an electrical fault. I seen this action and yes it will explode. There device is not sold state. LENR is a sold state reaction. I am not convinced. -Original Message- From: Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com danieldi...@gmail.com To: CMNS c...@googlegroups.com c...@googlegroups.com Cc: VORTEX vortex-l@eskimo.com vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, Jan 14, 2014 10:52 am Subject: [Vo]:Re: CMNS: BLP's announcement 1) This part: 10 billion watts/10,000 of a liter = 1MW 2)This part: The disclosure of one of BlackLight’s patent application that was recently-filed worldwide, its 10 MW electric SF-CIHT cell system engineering design and simulation, high-speed video of millions of watts of supersonically expanding SF-CIHT cell plasma, Suppose it a video that has a less than 1us per frame, in spikes. So, they are claiming 1 or less joule for a few some spikes. That might be even an error or measurement... 2014/1/14 Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com This, this time seems to be remarkable progress- if true: http://www.financialpost.com/markets/news/BlackLight+Power+Announces+Game+Changing+Achievement+Generation+Millions/9384649/story.html Let's see- Mike Carrell remained BLP's faithful supporter. Not LENR, but energy Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CMNS group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cmns+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to c...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cmns. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com
Re: [Vo]:Re: CMNS: BLP's announcement
But, to properly focus a discussion, the term LENR refers to nuclear reactions that occur only at low applied energy in a solid structure. O i c. On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.google.com/patents/EP2548257A2?cl=en You should not mention theory in a patent. Mills mentions hydrino about 100 times in this latest patent application. If this quantum state of the electron is not found to exist as defined in his patent, is the patent still valid? On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.comwrote: Clearly Nigel, a variety nuclear reactions can occur depending on applied energy and the conditions. Hot fusion occurs at the upper end of this range even in plasma. Cold fusion occurs at the lower end of this range in a NAE only within solids. Between these two extremes, a variety of reactions occur in solids and in plasma. BLP has focused their attention on forming the hydrino, not on nuclear reactions, although the conditions will clearly cause nuclear reactions. But, to properly focus a discussion, the term LENR refers to nuclear reactions that occur only at low applied energy in a solid structure. Ed Storms On Jan 14, 2014, at 9:51 AM, Nigel Dyer wrote: I was not aware of anything in the definition of LENR that says that it has to be solid state. Some of the better public examples at the moment are solid state, but I am aware of other systems that appear to be low energy nuclear reactions which appear to use other substrates, and I see no reason to have to invent a different term just because it is a different substrate. As for BLP, the information seems to be designed to be both informative and misleading, which appears to be almost a defining characteristic of LENR Nigel On 14/01/2014 16:07, fznidar...@aol.com wrote: If they put 1,200 amps in at lets say 100 volts that is 120 KW. Its is an electrical fault. I seen this action and yes it will explode. There device is not sold state. LENR is a sold state reaction. I am not convinced. -Original Message- From: Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com danieldi...@gmail.com To: CMNS c...@googlegroups.com c...@googlegroups.com Cc: VORTEX vortex-l@eskimo.com vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, Jan 14, 2014 10:52 am Subject: [Vo]:Re: CMNS: BLP's announcement 1) This part: 10 billion watts/10,000 of a liter = 1MW 2)This part: The disclosure of one of BlackLight’s patent application that was recently-filed worldwide, its 10 MW electric SF-CIHT cell system engineering design and simulation, high-speed video of millions of watts of supersonically expanding SF-CIHT cell plasma, Suppose it a video that has a less than 1us per frame, in spikes. So, they are claiming 1 or less joule for a few some spikes. That might be even an error or measurement... 2014/1/14 Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com This, this time seems to be remarkable progress- if true: http://www.financialpost.com/markets/news/BlackLight+Power+Announces+Game+Changing+Achievement+Generation+Millions/9384649/story.html Let's see- Mike Carrell remained BLP's faithful supporter. Not LENR, but energy Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CMNS group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cmns+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to c...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cmns. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com
Re: [Vo]:Re: CMNS: BLP's announcement
Mills mentions hydrino about 100 times in this latest patent application. If this quantum state of the electron is not found to exist as defined in his patent, is the patent still valid? He's probably either pretty confident it exists or he doesn't really care about the patent and it's just there for show. On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.google.com/patents/EP2548257A2?cl=en You should not mention theory in a patent. Mills mentions hydrino about 100 times in this latest patent application. If this quantum state of the electron is not found to exist as defined in his patent, is the patent still valid? On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.comwrote: Clearly Nigel, a variety nuclear reactions can occur depending on applied energy and the conditions. Hot fusion occurs at the upper end of this range even in plasma. Cold fusion occurs at the lower end of this range in a NAE only within solids. Between these two extremes, a variety of reactions occur in solids and in plasma. BLP has focused their attention on forming the hydrino, not on nuclear reactions, although the conditions will clearly cause nuclear reactions. But, to properly focus a discussion, the term LENR refers to nuclear reactions that occur only at low applied energy in a solid structure. Ed Storms On Jan 14, 2014, at 9:51 AM, Nigel Dyer wrote: I was not aware of anything in the definition of LENR that says that it has to be solid state. Some of the better public examples at the moment are solid state, but I am aware of other systems that appear to be low energy nuclear reactions which appear to use other substrates, and I see no reason to have to invent a different term just because it is a different substrate. As for BLP, the information seems to be designed to be both informative and misleading, which appears to be almost a defining characteristic of LENR Nigel On 14/01/2014 16:07, fznidar...@aol.com wrote: If they put 1,200 amps in at lets say 100 volts that is 120 KW. Its is an electrical fault. I seen this action and yes it will explode. There device is not sold state. LENR is a sold state reaction. I am not convinced. -Original Message- From: Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com danieldi...@gmail.com To: CMNS c...@googlegroups.com c...@googlegroups.com Cc: VORTEX vortex-l@eskimo.com vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, Jan 14, 2014 10:52 am Subject: [Vo]:Re: CMNS: BLP's announcement 1) This part: 10 billion watts/10,000 of a liter = 1MW 2)This part: The disclosure of one of BlackLight’s patent application that was recently-filed worldwide, its 10 MW electric SF-CIHT cell system engineering design and simulation, high-speed video of millions of watts of supersonically expanding SF-CIHT cell plasma, Suppose it a video that has a less than 1us per frame, in spikes. So, they are claiming 1 or less joule for a few some spikes. That might be even an error or measurement... 2014/1/14 Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com This, this time seems to be remarkable progress- if true: http://www.financialpost.com/markets/news/BlackLight+Power+Announces+Game+Changing+Achievement+Generation+Millions/9384649/story.html Let's see- Mike Carrell remained BLP's faithful supporter. Not LENR, but energy Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CMNS group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cmns+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to c...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cmns. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com
Re: [Vo]:Re: CMNS: BLP's announcement
LENR means suppression and/or negation of the coulomb barrier, were as hot fusion and fission means overcoming the coulomb barrier through the application of high energies to the nucleus. On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.comwrote: Mills mentions hydrino about 100 times in this latest patent application. If this quantum state of the electron is not found to exist as defined in his patent, is the patent still valid? He's probably either pretty confident it exists or he doesn't really care about the patent and it's just there for show. On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.google.com/patents/EP2548257A2?cl=en You should not mention theory in a patent. Mills mentions hydrino about 100 times in this latest patent application. If this quantum state of the electron is not found to exist as defined in his patent, is the patent still valid? On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.comwrote: Clearly Nigel, a variety nuclear reactions can occur depending on applied energy and the conditions. Hot fusion occurs at the upper end of this range even in plasma. Cold fusion occurs at the lower end of this range in a NAE only within solids. Between these two extremes, a variety of reactions occur in solids and in plasma. BLP has focused their attention on forming the hydrino, not on nuclear reactions, although the conditions will clearly cause nuclear reactions. But, to properly focus a discussion, the term LENR refers to nuclear reactions that occur only at low applied energy in a solid structure. Ed Storms On Jan 14, 2014, at 9:51 AM, Nigel Dyer wrote: I was not aware of anything in the definition of LENR that says that it has to be solid state. Some of the better public examples at the moment are solid state, but I am aware of other systems that appear to be low energy nuclear reactions which appear to use other substrates, and I see no reason to have to invent a different term just because it is a different substrate. As for BLP, the information seems to be designed to be both informative and misleading, which appears to be almost a defining characteristic of LENR Nigel On 14/01/2014 16:07, fznidar...@aol.com wrote: If they put 1,200 amps in at lets say 100 volts that is 120 KW. Its is an electrical fault. I seen this action and yes it will explode. There device is not sold state. LENR is a sold state reaction. I am not convinced. -Original Message- From: Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com danieldi...@gmail.com To: CMNS c...@googlegroups.com c...@googlegroups.com Cc: VORTEX vortex-l@eskimo.com vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, Jan 14, 2014 10:52 am Subject: [Vo]:Re: CMNS: BLP's announcement 1) This part: 10 billion watts/10,000 of a liter = 1MW 2)This part: The disclosure of one of BlackLight’s patent application that was recently-filed worldwide, its 10 MW electric SF-CIHT cell system engineering design and simulation, high-speed video of millions of watts of supersonically expanding SF-CIHT cell plasma, Suppose it a video that has a less than 1us per frame, in spikes. So, they are claiming 1 or less joule for a few some spikes. That might be even an error or measurement... 2014/1/14 Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com This, this time seems to be remarkable progress- if true: http://www.financialpost.com/markets/news/BlackLight+Power+Announces+Game+Changing+Achievement+Generation+Millions/9384649/story.html Let's see- Mike Carrell remained BLP's faithful supporter. Not LENR, but energy Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CMNS group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cmns+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to c...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cmns. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com
Re: [Vo]:Re: CMNS: BLP's announcement
In general principle, this Mills system looks a lot like the Ni/H reactor that DGT is developing. It uses dielectric oxygen and hydrogen gas derived from water, transition metal reaction substrates, cyclic spark excitation, and an extended period of power discharge after the excitation by the spark. It also uses a family of alkali based hydrides as a reaction catalyst. I wonder what the reaction ash looks like from transmutation? Any tritium? helium? iron? On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 1:29 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: LENR means suppression and/or negation of the coulomb barrier, were as hot fusion and fission means overcoming the coulomb barrier through the application of high energies to the nucleus. On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote: Mills mentions hydrino about 100 times in this latest patent application. If this quantum state of the electron is not found to exist as defined in his patent, is the patent still valid? He's probably either pretty confident it exists or he doesn't really care about the patent and it's just there for show. On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.google.com/patents/EP2548257A2?cl=en You should not mention theory in a patent. Mills mentions hydrino about 100 times in this latest patent application. If this quantum state of the electron is not found to exist as defined in his patent, is the patent still valid? On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.comwrote: Clearly Nigel, a variety nuclear reactions can occur depending on applied energy and the conditions. Hot fusion occurs at the upper end of this range even in plasma. Cold fusion occurs at the lower end of this range in a NAE only within solids. Between these two extremes, a variety of reactions occur in solids and in plasma. BLP has focused their attention on forming the hydrino, not on nuclear reactions, although the conditions will clearly cause nuclear reactions. But, to properly focus a discussion, the term LENR refers to nuclear reactions that occur only at low applied energy in a solid structure. Ed Storms On Jan 14, 2014, at 9:51 AM, Nigel Dyer wrote: I was not aware of anything in the definition of LENR that says that it has to be solid state. Some of the better public examples at the moment are solid state, but I am aware of other systems that appear to be low energy nuclear reactions which appear to use other substrates, and I see no reason to have to invent a different term just because it is a different substrate. As for BLP, the information seems to be designed to be both informative and misleading, which appears to be almost a defining characteristic of LENR Nigel On 14/01/2014 16:07, fznidar...@aol.com wrote: If they put 1,200 amps in at lets say 100 volts that is 120 KW. Its is an electrical fault. I seen this action and yes it will explode. There device is not sold state. LENR is a sold state reaction. I am not convinced. -Original Message- From: Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com danieldi...@gmail.com To: CMNS c...@googlegroups.com c...@googlegroups.com Cc: VORTEX vortex-l@eskimo.com vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, Jan 14, 2014 10:52 am Subject: [Vo]:Re: CMNS: BLP's announcement 1) This part: 10 billion watts/10,000 of a liter = 1MW 2)This part: The disclosure of one of BlackLight’s patent application that was recently-filed worldwide, its 10 MW electric SF-CIHT cell system engineering design and simulation, high-speed video of millions of watts of supersonically expanding SF-CIHT cell plasma, Suppose it a video that has a less than 1us per frame, in spikes. So, they are claiming 1 or less joule for a few some spikes. That might be even an error or measurement... 2014/1/14 Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com This, this time seems to be remarkable progress- if true: http://www.financialpost.com/markets/news/BlackLight+Power+Announces+Game+Changing+Achievement+Generation+Millions/9384649/story.html Let's see- Mike Carrell remained BLP's faithful supporter. Not LENR, but energy Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CMNS group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cmns+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to c...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cmns. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com
Re: [Vo]:Re: CMNS: BLP's announcement
On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Nigel Dyer l...@thedyers.org.uk wrote: I was not aware of anything in the definition of LENR that says that it has to be solid state. Some of the better public examples at the moment are solid state, but I am aware of other systems that appear to be low energy nuclear reactions which appear to use other substrates, and I see no reason to have to invent a different term just because it is a different substrate. I agree. I'm hopeful that the Papp reaction will be found to be real and that it will be shown to have the same mechanism as or a similar one to PdD and NiH LENR (assuming these have comparable mechanisms, which I do). For now I'm happy to cede to a distinction that limits LENR to a solid-state substrate. But I will not be surprised if this ends up being a category error, sort of like putting penguins into one biological class (water birds) and all other birds in another (land/air birds). Eric
