On 2011-04-29 02:02, Alan J Fletcher wrote:
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Followup on the same issue:
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http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=473cpage=4#comment-36179
Dear M.Rossi
Recently you said,on this blog, that 97 E-cats were already built in 4
different locations. Each one of them would be able to
On 2011-04-29 02:32, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Rossi never ceases to amaze me! There have not been this many cold
fusion reactors in operation since Stan and Martin were open for
business in Nice, France, and they ran 64 cells at a time. And those
were only ~100 W each.
Partially unrelated with the
A GE90 turbofan engine, which has the highest power to weight ratio I've
found provides about 9000 kW/ton of weight.
Best lithium ion battery:
19387 kW/ton of weight
_ from wikipedia
GE90-115B Brayton turbofan jet engine[14][15] 83,164 kW 111,526 hp
10.0
kW/kg 6.10 hp/lb
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So, In short:
- Power plant volume: 3m x 2m x 2m = 12m3
- Total weight: 2 metric tons
- Module thermal power density: 2 kW/liter
- Derived plant power density (thermal): 0.0833 kW/liter
- Derived plant specific power (thermal): 0.5 kW/ton (metric)
I would have said 0.5MW/ton
On 2011-04-30 15:01, Michele Comitini wrote:
I would have said 0.5MW/ton
Whoops, of course you're right!
It's 0.5 MW/ton.
Yet another case of my fingers typing faster than my mind thinks.
S.A.
Not a fair comparison, it does not include fuel to run continuosly at
that power for 6 months.
2011/4/30 Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. hoyt.stea...@gmail.com:
A GE90 turbofan engine, which has the highest power to weight ratio I've
found provides about 9000 kW/ton of weight.
Best lithium ion battery:
Your typical locomotive engine is around 1 MW.
It might be wise to skip the generation of electricity in the first
wave of Rossi e-cat sales. Focus on the KISS principal. Simply focus
on the economic advantages of cheap heat! Rossi-powered 1 MW furnaces
might do very well if the goal is to show
Terry Blanton wrote:
Your typical locomotive engine is around 1 MW.
If that were so, it would require 3 or 4 MW of raw heat. However,
various on-line references indicate that modern locomotives are usually
more powerful than this, ranging from 1.8 to 6 MW. See, for example:
In reply to OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson's message of Fri, 29 Apr 2011
09:17:11 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
(Water parks - turn them into
establishments that are open all year!), roads sidewalks,
Please don't advocate stupid wastes of energy. Current known World Nickel
reserves (140 million tons) are
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 5:58 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
Please don't advocate stupid wastes of energy. Current known World Nickel
reserves (140 million tons) are only going to last us 100 years *at our
current
rate of use*. If we start wasting energy on stupid things like heating roads
Terry Blanton wrote:
You keep ignoring the fact that with an ECat propulsion system, we can
fetch water from comets and nickel from asteroids and get all the
stuff we need.
Actually, that is a valid point. When someone asked me about supplies of
deuterium, I pointed out there is plenty in
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Fri, 29 Apr 2011 18:41:47 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 5:58 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
Please don't advocate stupid wastes of energy. Current known World Nickel
reserves (140 million tons) are only going to last us 100 years *at our
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 6:47 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Actually, that is a valid point.
Of course it is! I'm not always joking.
Well, did you see Princess Beatrice's hat?
ROFLMAO!
T
attachment: Beatrice.jpg
mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
However I don't think roads will ever be heated anyway, because I expect
lifter based air transport to take off in a big way, so roads may become
largely redundant.
I am hoping most roads will be put underground, and most commuting will
be shortened or eliminated
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 6:58 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
Well, did you see Princess Beatrice's hat?
Mercury can't possibly do that, even with Johnny Depp as the Mad
Hatter. It takes lysergic acid diethylamide. Thank you Albert
Hofmann.
T
From Robin:
(Water parks - turn them into
establishments that are open all year!), roads sidewalks,
Please don't advocate stupid wastes of energy. Current known
World Nickel reserves (140 million tons) are only going to last us 100
years *at our current rate of use*. If we start wasting
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Fri, 29 Apr 2011 19:00:42 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
I am hoping most roads will be put underground, and most commuting will
be shortened or eliminated with telecommunications and satellite offices
close to home.
I think putting roads underground is far too
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 7:24 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
I think putting roads underground is far too expensive, so I doubt that will
happen either (except perhaps here and there in large cities).
As a former employee of Parsons Brinckerhoff, I agree, in the short
term. However, there's
In reply to OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson's message of Fri, 29 Apr 2011
18:16:51 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
From Robin:
(Water parks - turn them into
establishments that are open all year!), roads sidewalks,
Please don't advocate stupid wastes of energy. Current known
World Nickel reserves (140
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton
I think putting roads underground is far too expensive, so I doubt that
will happen either (except perhaps here and there in large cities).
As a former employee of Parsons Brinckerhoff, I agree, in the short
term. However, there's the Big Dig.
In reply to mix...@bigpond.com's message of Sat, 30 Apr 2011 10:00:21 +1000:
Hi,
[snip]
$12/lb). That would likely mean a considerable increase in economically
winnable
reserves, and I have no idea by how much. Note that if we could extract all the
Nickel from the top 1 km of the land then we
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Fri, 29 Apr 2011 17:05:00 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
Why would not some form of subsurface robotic tunneling for roads - in the
future history of cheap LANR power, be almost as cheap?
..because the same robots could still build a surface road cheaper (and much
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 8:05 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Why would not some form of subsurface robotic tunneling for roads - in the
future history of cheap LANR power, be almost as cheap?
Now we have all these silly ventilation requirements: CFMs, CO
detectors, filtration,
- Original Message
From: mix...@bigpond.com mix...@bigpond.com
However I don't think roads will ever be heated anyway, because I expect
lifter based air transport to take off in a big way, so roads may become
largely redundant.
(lifters are less energy efficient than fixed wing
In reply to Harry Veeder's message of Fri, 29 Apr 2011 17:50:24 -0700 (PDT):
Hi,
[snip]
...where we're going we don't need roads
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BPxF1mLYFM
:)
Regards,
Robin van Spaandonk
http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/Project.html
mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
Why would not some form of subsurface robotic tunneling for roads - in the
future history of cheap LANR power, be almost as cheap?
..because the same robots could still build a surface road cheaper (and
much
faster).
I discussed this in the book. Cost and speed
Ya gotta read Jed's book about the chickens . . .
http://www.lenr-canr.org/BookBlurb.htm
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Fri, 29 Apr 2011 21:01:26 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
All your points are interesting, and as I said, I can see underground roads
being of some importance in large cities, and perhaps with time in smaller
cities too, however before they reach the point where the
From Robin,
Good detailed analysis. Thanks for the fiddley bits. Much to ponder there.
...
I always pass judgment on everything, don't you? :)
As do I. I just try to keep'em to myself. Needless to say, I don't always
succeed in that department.
Please don't take offence, none was intended,
Jed sez:
...
... We will have a billion robots sitting around anyway,
or 10 billion if we want. Why not put them to work?
Until they all unionize!
We Wisconsinites can probably supply those robots with some good tips. We're
still working on our own collective bargaining matter. At present we
mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
All your points are interesting, and as I said, I can see underground roads
being of some importance in large cities, and perhaps with time in smaller
cities too, however before they reach the point where the concept would be
extended to major continental highways, I
Rossi never ceases to amaze me! There have not been this many cold fusion
reactors in operation since Stan and Martin were open for business in Nice,
France, and they ran 64 cells at a time. And those were only ~100 W each.
Assuming this is no exaggeration, it means he is closer to making a 1 MW
Your typical locomotive engine is around 1 MW.
T
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