RE: [Vo]:Blogger asks an interesting ORBO question: An apparent energy imbalance detected

2010-11-06 Thread Jones Beene
From: Terry Blanton * We did Bedini, shields, pivoting mags while rotating, static push-pulls, and found the magnetic field was conservative. In every case. * Heck, it's all in a warehouse (not like the one at the end of Indiana Jones) and available if anyone can come up with some idea

Re: [Vo]:Blogger asks an interesting ORBO question: An apparent energy imbalance detected

2010-11-06 Thread Terry Blanton
Never tried a toroid since we were looking for significant external fields. We did try some alternate core geometries including a horse shoe rod in a push pull attempt. The Steorn demos are not clear enough to me (including the claims) to attempt a replication. Clanzer tried but never found

Re: [Vo]:Blogger asks an interesting ORBO question: An apparent energy imbalance detected

2010-11-06 Thread Terry Blanton
BTW, there's really no current flow in the solenoid due to the approaching magnet since the IGBT or MOSFET (depending on which config we were using) was turned off. Hence the bucking was not felt by the rotor. T

Re: [Vo]:Blogger asks an interesting ORBO question: An apparent energy imbalance detected

2010-11-05 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 3:45 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone from the Vort Collective care to comment on this alleged anomalous asymmetry? The fast in slow out discussion occupied hundreds of pages in the old Steorn forum. They always involved

RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Blogger asks an interesting ORBO question: An apparent energy imbalance detected

2010-11-05 Thread Roarty, Francis X
: [Vo]:Blogger asks an interesting ORBO question: An apparent energy imbalance detected propulsion= repulsion On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.commailto:hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 3:45 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo

RE: [Vo]:Blogger asks an interesting ORBO question: An apparent energy imbalance detected

2010-11-05 Thread Jones Beene
From: Terry Blanton * I never saw a discussion on attraction. I mention this because magnets operating in repulsion tend to randomize the domains finally demagnetizing the material.. It is also interesting to note that the force of attraction between two given magnets at a given distance is

Re: [Vo]:Blogger asks an interesting ORBO question: An apparent energy imbalance detected

2010-11-05 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Do you know offhand how asymmetrical the two forces can ultimately be (as a rough percentage) ? Depends on the geometry and materials. 2 in x 2 in x 0.5 in thick N45 separated by 0.2 in yields 93 lbs pull and 55.5 lbs

Re: [Vo]:Blogger asks an interesting ORBO question: An apparent energy imbalance detected

2010-11-05 Thread Jones Beene
From: Roarty, Francis X * Real speculative but I wonder if moving magnetic fields can react with ambient 3rd body gases trapped in the material itself - not necessarily Casimir geometry but enclosed cavities of ferrous material that can be suppressed like the microwave cavity claims of

Re: [Vo]:Blogger asks an interesting ORBO question: An apparent energy imbalance detected

2010-11-05 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
From Terry: From Jones Beene Do you know offhand how asymmetrical the two forces can ultimately be (as a rough percentage) ? Depends on the geometry and materials.  2 in x 2 in x 0.5 in thick N45 separated by 0.2 in yields 93 lbs pull and 55.5 lbs repulsion:

Re: [Vo]:Blogger asks an interesting ORBO question: An apparent energy imbalance detected

2010-11-05 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 4:44 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong here, but I assume your PM configurations, particularly when they were being measured in repulsive mode were spread or squished out over more rotational/angular real

Re: [Vo]:Blogger asks an interesting ORBO question: An apparent energy imbalance detected

2010-11-05 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Not sure if the route which Terry mentions – “force of attraction between two given magnets at a given distance is more than the force of propulsion” really provides a valid pathway to tap into ZPE. I can tell you that,