Re: [Vo]:Mel Miles letter about ARPA-E Open Ideas

2014-01-29 Thread Jed Rothwell
Just now, he sent me this:

Jed,
This was my  short reply yesterday to Dr. Boysen.  I read  about Dr.
Boysen on the ARPA-E site, and he had some past connection with MIT.
Mel Miles

Dr. Melvin H. Miles
807 W. Mamie
Ridgecrest, CA 93555
melmil...@juno.com

- Forwarded message --
From: Melvin  H Miles melmil...@juno.com
To: dane.boy...@hq.doe.gov
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 19:48:00 -0800
Subject: Re: ARPA-E Open Ideas

Dr. Boysen:
Thank you for your prompt reply that saves me from doing the useless task
of preparing my Open Ideas concept.  I think that there will eventually
be interest at DOE in cold fusion, but this will not be anytime soon.
Meanwhile, investigations continue in many countries including a $5
million program at the University of Missouri.

Dr. Melvin H. Miles

On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 13:39:29 -0500 Boysen, Dane
dane.boy...@hq.doe.gov writes:
 We are not really interested in cold fusion type concepts--this was
 included to capture ideas that might be more akin to muon-fusion.

 - Original Message -
 From: Melvin H Miles [mailto:melmil...@juno.com]
 Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 11:37 PM Eastern Standard Time
 To: Boysen, Dane
 Subject: ARPA-E Open Ideas

 Dr. Boysen:
 I have looked over the ARPA-E Open Innovative Development In
 Energy-Related Applied Science (Open Ideas) issued September 27,
 2013.
 On page 7, Section 3.6 it states low-energy nuclear reactions.
 Does
 this statement include cold fusion proposals?   The statement,
 LENR is
 often used by people in the cold fusion field.   However, I have
 also
 heard that this refers to a certain type of nuclear studies but not
 cold
 fusion.  Could you clarify this for me?

 From 1990 to 1995 I carried out cold  fusion research at the Navy
 laboratory at China Lake, and I was the  first to show a
 correlation
 between the excess heat and the production of helium-4.  I am now
 retired
 from China Lake, but I am affiliated with the University of La
 Verne.  I
 have a possible concept, but I do not want to waste my time on a
 proposal
 if there is no real interest by ARPA-E in anything related to cold
 fusion.

 Incidently, I was asked to write a  chapter on cold  fusion for a
 book
 that will honor Martin Fleischmann's many major contributions to
 electrochemistry and science.  This book will be published by Wiley
 around August of this year.  I hope this chapter will prove useful
 in
 providing Martin the  credit he deserves for his efforts in cold
 fusion
 and perhaps help to change the  misunderstanding about this topic.

 Mel Miles

 Dr. Melvin H. Miles
 807 W. Mamie
 Ridgecrest, CA 93555
 melmil...@juno.com



Re: [Vo]:Mel Miles letter about ARPA-E Open Ideas

2014-01-29 Thread Foks0904 .
The pervasive group think amongst most in the military-industrial-academic
complex is truly amazing. It's like a psychological train-wreck that I
can't help but want to rubberneck at, but at the same time the stubbornness
to evolve and unwillingness to propel humanity into a sustainable future,
when we stand at a chaos/tipping/bifurcation point, is endlessly
frustrating.

The conformity and blind-adherence to expert opinion is pathetic. Its
amazing how far the west has drifted away from its founding ideals based
on individuality, bravery, and integrity. We have become captives of our
own institutions. Bizarre and sad.

Regards,
John


On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:

 Just now, he sent me this:

 Jed,
 This was my  short reply yesterday to Dr. Boysen.  I read  about Dr.
 Boysen on the ARPA-E site, and he had some past connection with MIT.

 Mel Miles

 Dr. Melvin H. Miles
 807 W. Mamie
 Ridgecrest, CA 93555
 melmil...@juno.com

 - Forwarded message --
 From: Melvin  H Miles melmil...@juno.com
 To: dane.boy...@hq.doe.gov
 Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 19:48:00 -0800
 Subject: Re: ARPA-E Open Ideas

 Dr. Boysen:
 Thank you for your prompt reply that saves me from doing the useless task
 of preparing my Open Ideas concept.  I think that there will eventually
 be interest at DOE in cold fusion, but this will not be anytime soon.
 Meanwhile, investigations continue in many countries including a $5
 million program at the University of Missouri.

 Dr. Melvin H. Miles


 On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 13:39:29 -0500 Boysen, Dane
 dane.boy...@hq.doe.gov writes:
  We are not really interested in cold fusion type concepts--this was
  included to capture ideas that might be more akin to muon-fusion.
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Melvin H Miles [mailto:melmil...@juno.com]
  Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 11:37 PM Eastern Standard Time
  To: Boysen, Dane
  Subject: ARPA-E Open Ideas
 
  Dr. Boysen:
  I have looked over the ARPA-E Open Innovative Development In
  Energy-Related Applied Science (Open Ideas) issued September 27,
  2013.
  On page 7, Section 3.6 it states low-energy nuclear reactions.
  Does
  this statement include cold fusion proposals?   The statement,
  LENR is
  often used by people in the cold fusion field.   However, I have
  also
  heard that this refers to a certain type of nuclear studies but not
  cold
  fusion.  Could you clarify this for me?
 
  From 1990 to 1995 I carried out cold  fusion research at the Navy
  laboratory at China Lake, and I was the  first to show a
  correlation
  between the excess heat and the production of helium-4.  I am now
  retired
  from China Lake, but I am affiliated with the University of La
  Verne.  I
  have a possible concept, but I do not want to waste my time on a
  proposal
  if there is no real interest by ARPA-E in anything related to cold
  fusion.
 
  Incidently, I was asked to write a  chapter on cold  fusion for a
  book
  that will honor Martin Fleischmann's many major contributions to
  electrochemistry and science.  This book will be published by Wiley
  around August of this year.  I hope this chapter will prove useful
  in
  providing Martin the  credit he deserves for his efforts in cold
  fusion
  and perhaps help to change the  misunderstanding about this topic.
 
  Mel Miles
 
  Dr. Melvin H. Miles
  807 W. Mamie
  Ridgecrest, CA 93555
  melmil...@juno.com
 




Re: [Vo]:Mel Miles letter about ARPA-E Open Ideas

2014-01-29 Thread Alain Sepeda
maybe ARPA-E is not one brain but independent spin domains...

The model of groupthink that benabou describe cause multiple cognitive
stable states.
I imagine that like on spin-glass, the neighbour in the cognitive space
influence each node, and may cause tumbling.

I imagine LENR realism is a lower energy state, thus tumbling from
convinced to denier is too expensive (except for the easy uninformed
believer) onve you have real evidence.
however the potential barrier is high from denial to realism... and there
your neighborhood is important.

this is why I imagine there are small coherent domains of realism inside
organisation, especially where they are insulated from mainstream denialism
and implied terror...

Why do they dare to write LENR in DoE document, in Military conference on
battlefield energy ?
I suspect internal battle of influence, with small coherent groups very
much aware of facst and of opposition, trying to introduce data... with
uninformed mainstream not even aware of what is happening, thus not
opposing really.

It is a spin-glass transition, like revolutions.



2014-01-29 Foks0904 . foks0...@gmail.com:

 The pervasive group think amongst most in the military-industrial-academic
 complex is truly amazing. It's like a psychological train-wreck that I
 can't help but want to rubberneck at, but at the same time the stubbornness
 to evolve and unwillingness to propel humanity into a sustainable future,
 when we stand at a chaos/tipping/bifurcation point, is endlessly
 frustrating.

 The conformity and blind-adherence to expert opinion is pathetic. Its
 amazing how far the west has drifted away from its founding ideals based
 on individuality, bravery, and integrity. We have become captives of our
 own institutions. Bizarre and sad.

 Regards,
 John


 On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote:

 Just now, he sent me this:

 Jed,
 This was my  short reply yesterday to Dr. Boysen.  I read  about Dr.
 Boysen on the ARPA-E site, and he had some past connection with MIT.

 Mel Miles

 Dr. Melvin H. Miles
 807 W. Mamie
 Ridgecrest, CA 93555
 melmil...@juno.com

 - Forwarded message --
 From: Melvin  H Miles melmil...@juno.com
 To: dane.boy...@hq.doe.gov
 Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 19:48:00 -0800
 Subject: Re: ARPA-E Open Ideas

 Dr. Boysen:
 Thank you for your prompt reply that saves me from doing the useless task
 of preparing my Open Ideas concept.  I think that there will eventually
 be interest at DOE in cold fusion, but this will not be anytime soon.
 Meanwhile, investigations continue in many countries including a $5
 million program at the University of Missouri.

 Dr. Melvin H. Miles


 On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 13:39:29 -0500 Boysen, Dane
 dane.boy...@hq.doe.gov writes:
  We are not really interested in cold fusion type concepts--this was
  included to capture ideas that might be more akin to muon-fusion.
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Melvin H Miles [mailto:melmil...@juno.com]
  Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 11:37 PM Eastern Standard Time
  To: Boysen, Dane
  Subject: ARPA-E Open Ideas
 
  Dr. Boysen:
  I have looked over the ARPA-E Open Innovative Development In
  Energy-Related Applied Science (Open Ideas) issued September 27,
  2013.
  On page 7, Section 3.6 it states low-energy nuclear reactions.
  Does
  this statement include cold fusion proposals?   The statement,
  LENR is
  often used by people in the cold fusion field.   However, I have
  also
  heard that this refers to a certain type of nuclear studies but not
  cold
  fusion.  Could you clarify this for me?
 
  From 1990 to 1995 I carried out cold  fusion research at the Navy
  laboratory at China Lake, and I was the  first to show a
  correlation
  between the excess heat and the production of helium-4.  I am now
  retired
  from China Lake, but I am affiliated with the University of La
  Verne.  I
  have a possible concept, but I do not want to waste my time on a
  proposal
  if there is no real interest by ARPA-E in anything related to cold
  fusion.
 
  Incidently, I was asked to write a  chapter on cold  fusion for a
  book
  that will honor Martin Fleischmann's many major contributions to
  electrochemistry and science.  This book will be published by Wiley
  around August of this year.  I hope this chapter will prove useful
  in
  providing Martin the  credit he deserves for his efforts in cold
  fusion
  and perhaps help to change the  misunderstanding about this topic.
 
  Mel Miles
 
  Dr. Melvin H. Miles
  807 W. Mamie
  Ridgecrest, CA 93555
  melmil...@juno.com