Re: [Vo]:Penon described the position of flow meter

2017-02-23 Thread Bob Higgins
I remember reading the spec for the flow meter that was used. While it may have had mechanical digit readings that were that coarse, the flow meter has an available electronic option that provides a pulse for each turn of the internal rotor which corresponds to about 1 liter of flow (again

Re: [Vo]:Penon described the position of flow meter

2017-02-23 Thread Jed Rothwell
David Roberson wrote: Does your diagram show how the floating device in the system tank controls > the intake water flowing into it? Nope. I do not know why. Maybe the diagram is too abstract for this. Or it is wrong . . . or it shows another version of the setup? >

Re: [Vo]:Penon described the position of flow meter

2017-02-21 Thread Jed Rothwell
Peter Gluck wrote: > Penon simply says flowmeter between JMP plant and E-Cats and anybody > who has seen a plant knows ab ovo it MUST be immediately after the pump > water flow measured, injected in the E-Cats > No, that is not what Penon says. Here is the circuit: 1

Re: [Vo]:Penon described the position of flow meter

2017-02-21 Thread David Roberson
into it? There are a multitude of possible connections. I am attempting to visualize exactly how this occurs. Dave -Original Message- From: Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com> To: Vortex <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Tue, Feb 21, 2017 10:07 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Penon described the position o

Re: [Vo]:Penon described the position of flow meter

2017-02-21 Thread a.ashfield
Jones, This seems a typical negative piece from you. I'm not a lawyer but I understand there are other ways to get the ERV's report entered as evidence, besides having Penon show up. Why do you say Rossi would make a bad impression in court? Everyone who has met him (IH excepted) say he is

Re: [Vo]:Penon described the position of flow meter

2017-02-21 Thread Peter Gluck
Jed, Penon simply says flowmeter between JMP plant and E-Cats and anybody who has seen a plant knows ab ovo it MUST be immediately after the pump water flow measured, injected in the E-Cats on JONP Rossi said more times piping forms U flowmeter down- standard engineering you say- "many pumps,

Re: [Vo]:Penon described the position of flow meter

2017-02-21 Thread a.ashfield
Jed, I thought you said earlier that you had the plumbing layout but were not allowed to show it. If so, there should be no doubt about whether there is U in the system. AA On 2/20/2017 8:41 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: There has been some discussion here about the position of the flow meter

Re: [Vo]:Penon described the position of flow meter

2017-02-21 Thread Jones Beene
Speaking of Penon, or should I say the absence of Penon, has anyone considered the rules of evidence in Federal Court for getting that ERV report into evidence? As it stands now, Penon - who is the supposed expert who collected the data and wrote the report is unavailable to appear for

Re: [Vo]:Penon described the position of flow meter

2017-02-21 Thread Stephen Cooke
Jed So changing "external plant" to "external tank" and changing "internal tank " to "external tank" is correcting bad English... Uhhh okaayy ?? The internal tank was inside the E-Cat plant not the external one. I'm not going to get drawn into childish bickering. I intend to wait from now

Re: [Vo]:Penon described the position of flow meter

2017-02-21 Thread Jed Rothwell
Stephen Cooke wrote: Jed.. nice square bracketing. > As I said, that was added by Abd. I do not know where the original document is in the lawsuit papers. > What if we remove those... and assume the ERV's English is fine. > It isn't fine! It is difficult to

Re: [Vo]:Penon described the position of flow meter

2017-02-21 Thread Jed Rothwell
Peter Gluck wrote: > Question: do yu have information from Rossi or you have the piping > diagram of the plant showing clearly and exactly (as position) where > in the gravity return pipe was placed the flowmeter? > This information is from Rossi! He uploaded these

Re: [Vo]:Penon described the position of flow meter

2017-02-21 Thread Stephen Cooke
Jed.. nice square bracketing. What if we remove those... and assume the ERV's English is fine. Have you considered the external tank could be located at the external plant close to the condensor? In fact everything we say is speculation and can be interpreted how we want depending how we want

Re: [Vo]:Penon described the position of flow meter

2017-02-21 Thread Peter Gluck
This was dicussed already twice but DeJavu is a reality (see my blog today about the psychological phenomenon). Question: do yu have information from Rossi or you have the piping diagram of the plant showing clearly and exactly (as position) where in the gravity return pipe was placed the