Re: [Vo]:Wikipedia's cold fusion entry, what's the status?

2009-09-04 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 01:40 AM 9/4/2009, Steven Krivit wrote: Steve and Vortex, About a year ago, I think it was, the Wikipedia cold fusion haters blacklisted New Energy Times because I added some links to - heaven forbid - the NET site which I thought would be useful. You know, the Internet is good for Wiki,

Re: [Vo]:Wikipedia's cold fusion entry, what's the status?

2009-09-04 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Stephen A. Lawrencesa...@pobox.com wrote: Dunno -- I'm not sure I was on the same wavelength as their search box. I think it's case sensitive: http://encyclopediadramatica.com/JzG

Re: [Vo]:Wikipedia's cold fusion entry, what's the status?

2009-09-04 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Terry Blanton wrote: On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Stephen A. Lawrencesa...@pobox.com wrote: Dunno -- I'm not sure I was on the same wavelength as their search box. I think it's case sensitive: http://encyclopediadramatica.com/JzG Oops. Thanks.

Re: [Vo]:Wikipedia's cold fusion entry, what's the status?

2009-09-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: There is any amount of anti-cold fusion material from mainstream sources. It has no depth. Mainstream? Jed, you've swallowed a bill of goods. There is no mainstream. Or, rather, there are many. Is the ACS mainstream? Is Oxford University Press . . . Please note

Re: [Vo]:Wikipedia's cold fusion entry, what's the status?

2009-09-04 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 12:33 PM 9/4/2009, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Steven Krivit wrote: I was unable to make contact with Wikipedia Administrator JzG (Guy Chapman), but some of his fan club has some things about him at encyclopediadramatica.com. Just type in jzg in the search box. Typed in jzq in the

Re: [Vo]:Wikipedia's cold fusion entry, what's the status?

2009-09-04 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 12:07 PM 9/4/2009, Steven Krivit wrote: I was unable to make contact with Wikipedia Administrator JzG (Guy Chapman), but some of his fan club has some things about him at encyclopediadramatica.com. Just type in jzg in the search box. Don't go to encyclopediadramatica.com if you are easily

Re: [Vo]:Wikipedia's cold fusion entry, what's the status?

2009-09-04 Thread Steven Krivit
There is no page titled jzq. jzg, not jzq. Hard to see. somewhat case sensitive. so JzG is the optimal way stands for Just zis guy, slang for just this guy

Re: [Vo]:Wikipedia's cold fusion entry, what's the status?

2009-09-04 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 05:36 PM 9/4/2009, Jed Rothwell wrote: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: There is any amount of anti-cold fusion material from mainstream sources. It has no depth. Mainstream? Jed, you've swallowed a bill of goods. There is no mainstream. Or, rather, there are many. Is the ACS mainstream? Is

Re: [Vo]:Wikipedia's cold fusion entry, what's the status?

2009-09-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: Please note that I did not say that all mainstream media is opposed to cold fusion. Nor did I say that they were. I said there is no mainstream. It's a myth, an appearance, a phenomenon without boundaries. However, sometimes these are useful. I think you are

Re: [Vo]:Wikipedia's cold fusion entry, what's the status?

2009-09-04 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 10:16 PM 9/4/2009, you wrote: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: think you are quibbling. This is a bit like saying there is no Democratic Party because the Democrats are unorganized and they seldom agree among themselves. Okay, the Party may be nebulous but they have a headquarters and they

Re: [Vo]:Wikipedia's cold fusion entry, what's the status?

2009-09-03 Thread Terry Blanton
Jed spoke of this on the list. He has been falsely accused of printing articles without the author's permission. Terry On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 10:44 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnsonsvj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote: Following up on the recent cnn.com video clip concerning erroneous entries I

Re: [Vo]:Wikipedia's cold fusion entry, what's the status?

2009-09-03 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
If I'm banned from Wikipeida, as may happen in short order, the biggest reason will be prolixity. Warning: this is long. If it does not interest you, please don't read it, it will only irritate you. At 10:44 AM 9/3/2009, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: Following up on the recent cnn.com

Re: [Vo]:Wikipedia's cold fusion entry, what's the status?

2009-09-03 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 11:20 AM 9/3/2009, you wrote: Jed spoke of this on the list. He has been falsely accused of printing articles without the author's permission. I'll give some detail on that. It's a little more complicated. The basic reason for blacklisting of the site was that it was fringe advocacy, and

Re: [Vo]:Wikipedia's cold fusion entry, what's the status?

2009-09-03 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
From Terry, Thanks for expounding on that, Abd.  I'm curious, are you typing or using a voxrec s/w like Dragonspeak? :-) I would like to add my complements to the chef as well. I found Abd's analysis to be both informative and educational. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com

Re: [Vo]:Wikipedia's cold fusion entry, what's the status?

2009-09-03 Thread Jed Rothwell
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: If I'm banned from Wikipeida, as may happen in short order, the biggest reason will be prolixity. No, the biggest reason will be the message you just posted here, plus the fact that you are part of this discussion group. In response to this article:

Re: [Vo]:Wikipedia's cold fusion entry, what's the status?

2009-09-03 Thread Jed Rothwell
I just checked Wikipedia for the first time in months. Their latest shenanigan is to delete Dieter Britz's site. They made up some strange sounding reason. It is kind of funny because Britz is on their side. He is a skeptic who does not believe cold fusion is real. Since we cannot do anything to

Re: [Vo]:Wikipedia's cold fusion entry, what's the status?

2009-09-03 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 02:26 PM 9/3/2009, Terry Blanton wrote: Thanks for expounding on that, Abd. I'm curious, are you typing or using a voxrec s/w like Dragonspeak? Typing. I bought Dragonspeak when I had a carpal tunnel release, but never used it.

Re: [Vo]:Wikipedia's cold fusion entry, what's the status?

2009-09-03 Thread Steven Krivit
Steve and Vortex, About a year ago, I think it was, the Wikipedia cold fusion haters blacklisted New Energy Times because I added some links to - heaven forbid - the NET site which I thought would be useful. You know, the Internet is good for Wiki, it's good for NET too - we're both vehicles

Re: [Vo]:Wikipedia's cold fusion entry, what's the status?

2009-09-03 Thread Steven Krivit
At 07:07 PM 9/3/2009, you wrote: At 02:26 PM 9/3/2009, Terry Blanton wrote: Thanks for expounding on that, Abd. I'm curious, are you typing or using a voxrec s/w like Dragonspeak? Typing. I bought Dragonspeak when I had a carpal tunnel release, but never used it. brevity? naw!

Re: [Vo]:Wikipedia's cold fusion entry, what's the status?

2009-09-03 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 06:33 PM 9/3/2009, Michel Jullian wrote: Indeed, thanks for the most interesting summary, Abd! So you have now logically decided to see by yourself whether CF is real or not? Well, I'm pretty well convinced, from the published evidence, that it's real. However, that conclusion isn't