Re: [Vo]:defkalion eyewitness

2012-03-26 Thread Kelly Smunt
Not very likely!
Extracted from ASIC's database at AEST 07:18:16 on 25/03/2012
NameGREEN  GOLD ENERGY PTY LTD
ACN 126 956 714
ABN 77 126 956 714
TypeAustralian Proprietary Company, Limited By Shares
Registration Date   08/08/2007
Next Review Date08/08/2012
Status  ** UNDER EXTERNAL ADMINISTRATION and/or CONTROLLER APPOINTED **
Locality of Registered Office   Glynde SA 5070
JurisdictionAustralian Securities  Investments Commission

These are the documents that ASIC has most recently received from or in 
relation to this organisation. Page numbers are shown if processing is complete 
and the document is available for purchase.
DateNumber  Pages   Description
21/03/2012  7E4348469   2   505G Notification of Appointment of 
Liquidator By The Court
21/03/2012  028032604519D Notification of Making of Winding Up Order
21/03/2012  028032603560 Court Order to Wind Up a Company And 
Appoint a Liquidator


Aussie Guy / Greg Watson exchanged notes with Defkalion on their
blog, stating his interest on behalf of the company he works for. Even if the 
project with Rossi was shot down, his company may
still be interested in Defkalion, or have had their interest
re-kindled, and have sent Woomera / Greg Watson to check them out. 


Re: [Vo]:defkalion eyewitness

2012-03-26 Thread Kelly Smunt



I hear Greggy is in a spot of bovver!!

http://www.asic.gov.au/asic/pdflib.nsf/L...$file/Insolvency_guide_for_directors.pdf

Consequences of insolvent trading
There are various penalties and consequences of insolvent trading, including 
civil penalties, compensation proceedings and criminal charges.
The Corporations Act provides some statutory defences for directors. However, 
directors may find it difficult to rely upon these if they have not taken steps 
to keep themselves informed about the company’s financial position.
Civil penalties
Contravening the insolvent trading provisions of the Corporations Act can 
result in civil penalties against directors, including pecuniary penalties of 
up to $200,000.
Compensation proceedings
Compensation proceedings for amounts lost by creditors can be initiated by 
ASIC, a liquidator or a creditor against a director personally. A compensation 
order can be made in addition to civil penalties.
Compensation payments are potentially unlimited and could lead to the personal 
bankruptcy of directors. The personal bankruptcy of a director disqualifies 
that director from continuing as a director or managing a company.

Criminal charges
If dishonesty is found to be a factor in insolvent trading, a director may also 
be subject to criminal charges (which can lead to a fine of up to $220,000 or 
imprisonment for up to 5 years, or both). Being found guilty of the criminal 
offence of insolvent trading will also lead to a director’s disqualification.
ASIC has successfully prosecuted directors for allowing companies to incur 
debts when the company is insolvent, and has sought orders making directors 
personally liable for company debts.

Ohpoor Greggy
Sniffle

Don't drop the soap Greggy, there'll are 3 gay Hells Angels lined 
up behind you in the cell block shower.

Whoo H!! 

Re: [Vo]:defkalion eyewitness

2012-03-26 Thread Jojo Jaro
Going to the Rayotek site looking for a single product is an exercise in 
frustration management.  That site is freaking useless.

I want to buy a 1/4 NPT sight glass that can withstand 1000 PSI and 1000C, and 
after browsing that site for over 30 minutes, I could not find a single product 
with complete specs.  It's all useless blabber and useless propaganda.  Where 
are the actual products I can buy, with corresponding pressure and temp specs?



RE: [Vo]:defkalion eyewitness

2012-03-26 Thread Peter B

Jojo 
There arent to many companys working with such high temps or high pressures 
(not quite sure you will find what you need ) But if it was my problem I would 
ask a engineer called Ken  works for Gascon  Sydney Australia . He was the guy 
that tracked down the 3000 psi attachment for me so I can pressurise my chamber 
to 2000 psi . He was very knowledgeable and helpful , if anybody know if there 
is an application for this problem , he should . My problem was only sorted by 
only one supplier in all of Australia and Ken tracked that company 
down and built the gadget for me . 
Hope that helps 
Pete

From: jth...@hotmail.com
To: Vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:defkalion eyewitness
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 15:54:20 +0800










Going to the Rayotek site looking for a single 
product is an exercise in frustration management.  That site is freaking 
useless.
 
I want to buy a 1/4 NPT sight glass that can 
withstand 1000 PSI and 1000C, and after browsing that site for over 30 minutes, 
I could not find a single product with complete specs.  It's all useless 
blabber and useless propaganda.  Where are the actual products I can buy, 
with corresponding pressure and temp specs?
 
  

Re: [Vo]:defkalion eyewitness

2012-03-26 Thread Daniel Rocha
Woomera is a city in Australia... Just saying...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woomera,_South_Australia

2012/3/26 Peter B ddc...@hotmail.com

  Jojo

 There arent to many companys working with such high temps or high
 pressures (not quite sure you will find what you need ) But if it was my
 problem I would ask a engineer called Ken  works for Gascon  Sydney
 Australia . He was the guy that tracked down the 3000 psi attachment for me
 so I can pressurise my chamber to 2000 psi . He was very knowledgeable and
 helpful , if anybody know if there is an application for this problem , he
 should . My problem was only sorted by only one supplier in all of
 Australia and Ken tracked that company down and built the
 gadget for me .

 Hope that helps

 Pete

 --
 From: jth...@hotmail.com
 To: Vortex-l@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: [Vo]:defkalion eyewitness
 Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 15:54:20 +0800


 Going to the Rayotek site looking for a single product is an exercise in
 frustration management.  That site is freaking useless.

 I want to buy a 1/4 NPT sight glass that can withstand 1000 PSI and
 1000C, and after browsing that site for over 30 minutes, I could not find a
 single product with complete specs.  It's all useless blabber and useless
 propaganda.  Where are the actual products I can buy, with corresponding
 pressure and temp specs?






-- 
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com


Re: [Vo]:defkalion eyewitness

2012-03-26 Thread Chemical Engineer
Also a city mentioned in the old Greg Watson links...

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.solar.photovoltaic/browse_thread/thread/bce749f14fd8d379/e95a2a0dcdb24536?pli=1


On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.comwrote:

 Woomera is a city in Australia... Just saying...

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woomera,_South_Australia


 2012/3/26 Peter B ddc...@hotmail.com

  Jojo

 There arent to many companys working with such high temps or high
 pressures (not quite sure you will find what you need ) But if it was my
 problem I would ask a engineer called Ken  works for Gascon  Sydney
 Australia . He was the guy that tracked down the 3000 psi attachment for me
 so I can pressurise my chamber to 2000 psi . He was very knowledgeable and
 helpful , if anybody know if there is an application for this problem , he
 should . My problem was only sorted by only one supplier in all of
 Australia and Ken tracked that company down and built the
 gadget for me .

 Hope that helps

 Pete

 --
 From: jth...@hotmail.com
 To: Vortex-l@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: [Vo]:defkalion eyewitness
 Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 15:54:20 +0800


 Going to the Rayotek site looking for a single product is an exercise in
 frustration management.  That site is freaking useless.

 I want to buy a 1/4 NPT sight glass that can withstand 1000 PSI and
 1000C, and after browsing that site for over 30 minutes, I could not find a
 single product with complete specs.  It's all useless blabber and useless
 propaganda.  Where are the actual products I can buy, with corresponding
 pressure and temp specs?






 --
 Daniel Rocha - RJ
 danieldi...@gmail.com




Re: [Vo]:defkalion eyewitness

2012-03-25 Thread Guenter Wildgruber






there is a guy 'woomera' over at Chris Martensons forum, who claims to have 
visited Defkalion:

...
G'Day, I was JUST in Athens and met with representatives of Defkalion.  
They told me that they were going to begin selling their LENR device 
this July 2012.  I was shown their RD model which just starts with a
 flick of the switch.  It also turns off with a just a flick of the same
 switch.  They have their model running at 250degc.  
...
read it there (post #43)
http://www.chrismartenson.com/forum/cold-fusion/51623?page=4#comments

Hmmm.
Guenter


Re: [Vo]:defkalion eyewitness

2012-03-25 Thread Alan Fletcher
Interesting ... but I hope it isn't that Aussie Guy .

Interesting comments a couple of posts down, too, concerning Rossi and a report 
of the 1MW going unstable during the test.

- Original Message -
 there is a guy 'woomera' over at Chris Martensons forum, who claims to
 have visited Defkalion:
 
 read it there (post #43)
 http://www.chrismartenson.com/forum/cold-fusion/51623?page=4#comments



Re: [Vo]:defkalion eyewitness

2012-03-25 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 12:19 PM, Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:

 Interesting ... but I hope it isn't that Aussie Guy .


My thoughts, too.  I wrote PDGT to ask if the post was true.  I'll let the
list know if they respond.

T


Re: [Vo]:defkalion eyewitness

2012-03-25 Thread Vorl Bek
 Interesting ... but I hope it isn't that Aussie Guy .
 
 Interesting comments a couple of posts down, too, concerning
 Rossi and a report of the 1MW going unstable during the test.
 
 - Original Message -
  there is a guy 'woomera' over at Chris Martensons forum, who
  claims to have visited Defkalion:
  
  read it there (post #43)
  http://www.chrismartenson.com/forum/cold-fusion/51623?page=4#comments
 
Aussie Guy / Greg Watson exchanged notes with Defkalion on their
blog, stating his interest on behalf of the company he works for.

Even if the project with Rossi was shot down, his company may
still be interested in Defkalion, or have had their interest
re-kindled, and have sent Woomera / Greg Watson to check them out.



Re: [Vo]:defkalion eyewitness

2012-03-25 Thread Guenter Wildgruber





 Von: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com
An: Guenter Wildgruber gwildgru...@ymail.com 
Gesendet: 21:47 Sonntag, 25.März 2012
Betreff: Re: [Vo]:defkalion eyewitness
 
Axil said:

  this factoid from Woomera if it is to be believed is fascinating and 
revealing. ...

I wonder why DGT told him that.

This sounds like a considerable safety-issue.
Maybe the whole story gets a new twist.

Also this:
...They have all the European certificates.  Everyone else in the world 
recognises the EU certificates, except the United States.  Defkalion had
 decided the US is in the 'too-hard-basket' and won't manufacture or 
sell to the US. ...

Sounds about reasonable.

Another detail:
This woomera guy  is registered at CMs forum since 2008 and has a total of 19 
posts there.
So he is not a typical loose-mouth.
CM himself  is a highly competent analyst of world affairs, and normally
 attracts people, who have their act together, and are typically in the 
pessimistic camp.

On your point, Axil, that the line between 'good' LENR and the dangerous 
variety (LeClair/nanospire) may be blurred.
I agree.
Just think of Piantellis analysis, where several transmuted elements were found 
on his reactor-core

The next two months will be interesting.

I expect that the safety issue will be a big one.
We discussed this already.

It is also plausible from this, what the DGT-strategy is:
The licencees have to take care of that in their world-region.
DGT seems to have convinced them, that the problem is solvable, and present a 
solution via telemonitoring.
The licencees obviously accepted that as a reasonable option, if this 
interpretation of the sory is correct.

Thats about all from my side

Guenter

Re: [Vo]:defkalion eyewitness

2012-03-25 Thread Harry Veeder
'woomera' says Defkalion has all their EU certificates.
I wouldn't know where to look, but if this is true, wouldn't it be
possible to confirm the certification by checking an EU governmental
website?

harry

On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 12:19 PM, Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
 Interesting ... but I hope it isn't that Aussie Guy .

 Interesting comments a couple of posts down, too, concerning Rossi and a 
 report of the 1MW going unstable during the test.

 - Original Message -
 there is a guy 'woomera' over at Chris Martensons forum, who claims to
 have visited Defkalion:

 read it there (post #43)
 http://www.chrismartenson.com/forum/cold-fusion/51623?page=4#comments




Re: [Vo]:defkalion eyewitness

2012-03-25 Thread ecat builder
This line from Woomera strikes me both interesting and odd:

I was told that they were trying to actually see what happens in
their device with some glass with a melting point of 1500degc.  They
saw it light up like the sun and then it melted the glass.  This just
took a second or two. 

If the reaction lights up like the sun, that bit of knowledge would
make it much easier to replicate.. seems like a trade secret.

Secondly, why would the glass melt if the reaction is not supposed to
melt the nickel? There is a video on youtube that shows how resistant
silica glass is to thermal shock... so not sure what to think.

For replicators this company makes high pressure silica (1600C) and
sapphire (2400C) glass windows that would screw onto a pipe thread..
http://www.rayotek.com/tech-specs/sight-windows.htm

- Brad
p.s. July would be nice.



Re: [Vo]:defkalion eyewitness

2012-03-25 Thread Axil Axil
 Woomera said: “I was told what their working theory was, but they really
don't know what is going on. They have brought in several academics with a
myraid of explanations.”



DGT thought they knew what was going on, they had a working theory. Now
this glass burnup incident has DGT totally flabbergasted. Mpw, they are so
dumbfounded they don’t have any idea what their trade secret should. They
are in the same boat that Rossi was in a ways back before LeClair told the
Navy what was going on.

 **


On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 12:49 AM, ecat builder ecatbuil...@gmail.comwrote:

 This line from Woomera strikes me both interesting and odd:

 I was told that they were trying to actually see what happens in
 their device with some glass with a melting point of 1500degc.  They
 saw it light up like the sun and then it melted the glass.  This just
 took a second or two. 

 If the reaction lights up like the sun, that bit of knowledge would
 make it much easier to replicate.. seems like a trade secret.

 Secondly, why would the glass melt if the reaction is not supposed to
 melt the nickel? There is a video on youtube that shows how resistant
 silica glass is to thermal shock... so not sure what to think.

 For replicators this company makes high pressure silica (1600C) and
 sapphire (2400C) glass windows that would screw onto a pipe thread..
 http://www.rayotek.com/tech-specs/sight-windows.htm

 - Brad
 p.s. July would be nice.