Re: [Voyage-linux] Hangs voyage 0.10.0

2015-12-28 Thread Volodymyr 
Hello, 


Today, system hangs again . :-(

What must be done to voyage-0.10.0, permanently saves all the logs here - 
"/var/log" ? 
Not waiting shutdown . 
Thanks. 

Volodymyr 


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От кого: "chris hermansen"  
Дата: 24 декабря 2015, 21:22:20 

Volodymyr and list, On Dec 24, 2015 10:00, "Volodymyr" < ur3...@ukr.net > 
wrote: 
> 
> От кого: "chris hermansen" < clherman...@gmail.com > 
> Дата: 24 декабря 2015, 19:11:18 
> 
>> Volodymyr and list, 
>> 
>> On Dec 24, 2015 09:07, "Volodymyr" < ur3...@ukr.net > wrote: 
>> > 
>> > Hello list! 
>> > 
>> > voyage-0.10.0 
>> > Thin Client  - Wyse V90 
>> > CPU: VIA C3 (C5XL - VIA Nehemiah) 
>> > RAM: 256 
>> > http://www.parkytowers.me.uk/thin/wyse/vx0/WyseV90.shtml 
>> > 
>> > Such problem: The client periodically (once a week) hangs. 
>> > Logs are maintained. However, information about the problems of hang-up in 
>> > the log is not saved. 
>> > 
>> > Why is there no information in the logs, on the causes of hangs? 
>> > How is it possible to determine the cause of the hang-up? 
>> > 
>> > Best regards 
>> > Volodymyr 
>> 
>> Is there a crontab entry whose timing corresponds to the hang-up? If so you 
>> should check to see if it might be the cause. 
> 
> 
> Hello Chris, 
> 
> 
> The client, every day, is switched on via Bios at 7 am. 
> Is switched off via Cron at 12 pm. 
> All this time the logs are written wonderful. 
> The logs are not written information from the launch to hang-up. 
OK so to confirm that I understand correctly: 6 days per week the computer 
starts up, writes its log files, and shuts down correctly. 1 day per week the 
computer starts up, does not appear to write its log files, and hangs up. Is 
that correct? If so, have you examined the log files on "the bad day" while the 
computer is running? Are you running the computer with a read-only root and 
using /tmp for storing /var while running? And expecting the shutdown process 
to copy the files in /tmp back to /var? If so, that may be why your files 
appear not to be written - because they are not copied back on shutdown. 
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Re: [Voyage-linux] Hangs voyage 0.10.0

2015-12-24 Thread Volodymyr 
  

--- Исходное сообщение --- 
От кого: "chris hermansen"  
Дата: 24 декабря 2015, 21:22:20 

Volodymyr and list, On Dec 24, 2015 10:00, "Volodymyr" < ur3...@ukr.net > 
wrote: 
> 
> От кого: "chris hermansen" < clherman...@gmail.com > 
> Дата: 24 декабря 2015, 19:11:18 
> 
>> Volodymyr and list, 
>> 
>> On Dec 24, 2015 09:07, "Volodymyr" < ur3...@ukr.net > wrote: 
>> > 
>> > Hello list! 
>> > 
>> > voyage-0.10.0 
>> > Thin Client  - Wyse V90 
>> > CPU: VIA C3 (C5XL - VIA Nehemiah) 
>> > RAM: 256 
>> > http://www.parkytowers.me.uk/thin/wyse/vx0/WyseV90.shtml 
>> > 
>> > Such problem: The client periodically (once a week) hangs. 
>> > Logs are maintained. However, information about the problems of hang-up in 
>> > the log is not saved. 
>> > 
>> > Why is there no information in the logs, on the causes of hangs? 
>> > How is it possible to determine the cause of the hang-up? 
>> > 
>> > Best regards 
>> > Volodymyr 
>> 
>> Is there a crontab entry whose timing corresponds to the hang-up? If so you 
>> should check to see if it might be the cause. 
> 
> 
> Hello Chris, 
> 
> 
> The client, every day, is switched on via Bios at 7 am. 
> Is switched off via Cron at 12 pm. 
> All this time the logs are written wonderful. 
> The logs are not written information from the launch to hang-up. 
OK so to confirm that I understand correctly: 6 days per week the computer 
starts up, writes its log files, and shuts down correctly. 1 day per week the 
computer starts up, does not appear to write its log files, and hangs up. Is 
that correct? 
Yes. Approximately once a week. With various periodicities. 

If so, have you examined the log files on "the bad day" while the computer is 
running? He is not saved them in /var/log, at the time of crash. 


Are you running the computer with a read-only root and using /tmp for storing 
/var while running? Yes. :) 

And expecting the shutdown process to copy the files in /tmp back to /var? If 
so, that may be why your files appear not to be written - because they are not 
copied back on shutdown. Thank you Chris! It seems so. :)) 
Now, I'll wait for the new crash, see the information in /tmp/var/log. 

/tmp/var/log/kern.log - No information: from the "Dec 19 7:00:00" at "Dec 19 
17:46:46 ". : 
Dec 18 23:59:09 localhost vmunix: [64732.092133] Ebtables v2.0 unregistered 
Dec 19 17:46:47 localhost vmunix: [    0.114706] ACPI: bus type PNP 
unregistered 
Unfortunately, I still know very little about the difference between Debian and 
Voyage.  :-(


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Re: [Voyage-linux] Hangs voyage 0.10.0

2015-12-24 Thread chris hermansen 
Volodymyr and list,

On Dec 24, 2015 10:00, "Volodymyr"  wrote:
>
> От кого: "chris hermansen" 
> Дата: 24 декабря 2015, 19:11:18
>
>> Volodymyr and list,
>>
>> On Dec 24, 2015 09:07, "Volodymyr"  wrote:
>> >
>> > Hello list!
>> >
>> > voyage-0.10.0
>> > Thin Client  - Wyse V90
>> > CPU: VIA C3 (C5XL - VIA Nehemiah)
>> > RAM: 256
>> > http://www.parkytowers.me.uk/thin/wyse/vx0/WyseV90.shtml
>> >
>> > Such problem: The client periodically (once a week) hangs.
>> > Logs are maintained. However, information about the problems of
hang-up in the log is not saved.
>> >
>> > Why is there no information in the logs, on the causes of hangs?
>> > How is it possible to determine the cause of the hang-up?
>> >
>> > Best regards
>> > Volodymyr
>>
>> Is there a crontab entry whose timing corresponds to the hang-up? If so
you should check to see if it might be the cause.
>
>
> Hello Chris,
>
>
> The client, every day, is switched on via Bios at 7 am.
> Is switched off via Cron at 12 pm.
> All this time the logs are written wonderful.
> The logs are not written information from the launch to hang-up.

OK so to confirm that I understand correctly:

6 days per week the computer starts up, writes its log files, and shuts
down correctly.

1 day per week the computer starts up, does not appear to write its log
files, and hangs up.

Is that correct?

If so, have you examined the log files on "the bad day" while the computer
is running?

Are you running the computer with a read-only root and using /tmp for
storing /var while running? And expecting the shutdown process to copy the
files in /tmp back to /var? If so, that may be why your files appear not to
be written - because they are not copied back on shutdown.
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[Voyage-linux] Hangs voyage 0.10.0

2015-12-24 Thread Volodymyr 
Hello list ! 

voyage-0.10.0 
Thin Client   - Wyse V90 
CPU: VIA C3 (C5XL - VIA Nehemiah) 
RAM: 256 
http://www.parkytowers.me.uk/thin/wyse/vx0/WyseV90.shtml 

Such problem: The client periodically (once a week) hangs. 
Logs are maintained. However, information about the problems of hang-up in the 
log is not saved. 

Why is there no information in the logs, on the causes of hangs? 
How is it possible to determine the cause of the hang-up? 

Best regards 
Volodymyr 
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Re: [Voyage-linux] Hangs voyage 0.10.0

2015-12-24 Thread chris hermansen 
Volodymyr and list,

On Dec 24, 2015 09:07, "Volodymyr"  wrote:
>
> Hello list!
>
> voyage-0.10.0
> Thin Client  - Wyse V90
> CPU: VIA C3 (C5XL - VIA Nehemiah)
> RAM: 256
> http://www.parkytowers.me.uk/thin/wyse/vx0/WyseV90.shtml
>
> Such problem: The client periodically (once a week) hangs.
> Logs are maintained. However, information about the problems of hang-up
in the log is not saved.
>
> Why is there no information in the logs, on the causes of hangs?
> How is it possible to determine the cause of the hang-up?
>
> Best regards
> Volodymyr

Is there a crontab entry whose timing corresponds to the hang-up? If so you
should check to see if it might be the cause.
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Re: [Voyage-linux] Hangs voyage 0.10.0

2015-12-24 Thread Volodymyr 
От кого: "chris hermansen"  
Дата: 24 декабря 2015, 19:11:18 

Volodymyr and list, On Dec 24, 2015 09:07, "Volodymyr" < ur3...@ukr.net > 
wrote: 
> 
> Hello list! 
> 
> voyage-0.10.0 
> Thin Client  - Wyse V90 
> CPU: VIA C3 (C5XL - VIA Nehemiah) 
> RAM: 256 
> http://www.parkytowers.me.uk/thin/wyse/vx0/WyseV90.shtml 
> 
> Such problem: The client periodically (once a week) hangs. 
> Logs are maintained. However, information about the problems of hang-up in 
> the log is not saved. 
> 
> Why is there no information in the logs, on the causes of hangs? 
> How is it possible to determine the cause of the hang-up? 
> 
> Best regards 
> Volodymyr 
Is there a crontab entry whose timing corresponds to the hang-up? If so you 
should check to see if it might be the cause. 
Hello Chris, 

The client, every day, is switched on via Bios at 7 am. 
Is switched off via Cron at 12 pm. 
All this time the logs are written wonderful. 
The logs are not written information from the launch to hang-up. 

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