Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [Drupal] The road ahead and missed opportunities

2011-01-19 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 01/19/2011 05:04 AM, Marc Paré wrote: This kind of reasoning however would seem to promote communities built on regions rather than one whole community. This would then make for a good case of having country based communities with their own set of website tools. Marc, it is not a resoning,

Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [Drupal] The road ahead and missed opportunities

2011-01-19 Thread Michael Wheatland
Please stand by. David and myself are organising a regroup of the website team in the form of a Conference Call. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for

Re: [libreoffice-website] [Drupal] The road ahead and missed opportunities

2011-01-19 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi gang, Narayan Aras wrote (19-01-11 10:22) The whole work was in accordance with SC's decision. Pls don't play the killed innocence here. There were enough mails that should have make you think. Best, Cor -- - giving openoffice.org its foundation :: The Document Foundation - --

RE: [libreoffice-website] [Drupal] The road ahead and missed opportunities

2011-01-19 Thread Narayan Aras
And you, don't play the clueless leader. See this mail first:http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/msg01422.html. I specifically asked whether Drupal was official. Why did it go on for ages without a clear yes or no answer. I have specifically remarked that the SC decision is

Re: [libreoffice-website] [Drupal] The road ahead and missed opportunities

2011-01-19 Thread Cor Nouws
Narayan Aras wrote (19-01-11 10:50) And you, don't play the clueless leader. Thanks :-D See this mail first:http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/msg01422.html. I specifically asked whether Drupal was official. Why did it go on for ages without a clear yes or no answer. I have

Re: [libreoffice-website] LibreOffice website team inaugural conference call

2011-01-19 Thread David Nelson
Hi, :-) It's going to be an interesting and lively confcall (we plan to have them *very* regularly) in which we are going to reconcile all the website team's ideas and desires with the policies and realities of the other areas of the project. It might not always be easy but, with patience and

[libreoffice-website] L10n mailing list and l10n wiki link on the website

2011-01-19 Thread Sophie Gautier
Hi, Would it be possible to add the l10n mailing list under the Get Involved part, and also don't mix it with NL communities as the work involved is very different ? Or can I have edit rights so I can do it myself. That way I could update the QA and l10n parts that may continuously change in

Re: [libreoffice-website] LibreOffice website team inaugural conference call

2011-01-19 Thread Karl-Heinz Gödderz
Michael Wheatland schrieb: On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 9:36 PM, Charles Marcus cmar...@media-brokers.comwrote: On 2011-01-19 4:42 AM, Michael Wheatland wrote: I encourage all of those involved with the website team to vote and attend the meeting. It is time we stood up,

Re: [libreoffice-website] LibreOffice website team inaugural conference call

2011-01-19 Thread Karl-Heinz Gödderz
Hi David, ;-) David Nelson schrieb: Hi, :-) Micheal and I (or whoever else is appointed to leadership/coordination roles) will certainly liaise closely and regularly with the SC during SC confcalls, so that there are *no* communications failures. David Nelson I didn't think about

Re: [libreoffice-website] LibreOffice website team inaugural conference call

2011-01-19 Thread Michael Wheatland
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 10:50 PM, Karl-Heinz Gödderz libreoff...@gukk-online.de wrote: Hi David, ;-) David Nelson schrieb: Hi, :-) Micheal and I (or whoever else is appointed to leadership/coordination roles) will certainly liaise closely and regularly with the SC during SC

Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: The road ahead and missed opportunities

2011-01-19 Thread Michael Wheatland
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 5:54 PM, charles.h.schulz charles.h.sch...@gmail.com wrote: We're not going to reach an agreement here. I don't like to have people trying to enter through a window when they've been told they can't enter at the door. You are entitling yourself the website team. It's

RE: [libreoffice-website] LibreOffice website team inaugural conference call

2011-01-19 Thread Narayan Aras
Would it be possible to record the call and post a MP3 (with the MoMs) so the absentees can listen in later? Thanks! Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 23:07:02 +0930 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-website] LibreOffice website team inaugural conference call From: mich...@wheatland.com.au To:

Re: [libreoffice-website] LibreOffice website team inaugural conference call

2011-01-19 Thread Michael Wheatland
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 11:24 PM, Narayan Aras narayana...@hotmail.comwrote: Would it be possible to record the call and post a MP3 (with the MoMs) so the absentees can listen in later? Thanks! We will be organising the use of the current conference call technology. As I understand it the

Re: [libreoffice-website] [Drupal] The road ahead and missed opportunities

2011-01-19 Thread Italo Vignoli
First of all, thanks for taking the time to answer. On 01/19/2011 10:22 AM, Narayan Aras wrote: BTW I have consistently maintained that mail lists are not suitable to capture such matters. There are easy solutions available. But SC is not interested. So SC has to blame itself for (a) not

Re: [tdf-discuss] [libreoffice-website] [Forum] How will the forum be organized?

2011-01-19 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Michael, On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 7:16 AM, Michael Wheatland mich...@wheatland.com.au wrote: On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 11:38 PM, David Nelson comme...@traduction.biz wrote: [...] I totally agree. The only reason people are (were) working on Drupal was that Christian stated that people were

Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [Drupal] The road ahead and missed opportunities

2011-01-19 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Marc, *, On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 4:39 AM, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com wrote: Le 2011-01-18 17:57, Christian Lohmaier a écrit : [...] As you say, people were not listening to each other. As a LibO member who did participate on the Drupal team and helped organise it under the impression

Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [Drupal] The road ahead and missed opportunities

2011-01-19 Thread drew
This email is to the Drupal team, who all that is I am not sure. Guys I have my problems with the SC members and I am leaving because of it, perhaps not quick enough. What you guys are talking about now however is just wrong - you need to stop, no more discussions, just stop and walk away -

Re: [libreoffice-website] L10n mailing list and l10n wiki link on the website

2011-01-19 Thread Erich Christian
Hi Sophie, Am 19.01.2011 14:05, schrieb Sophie Gautier: On 19/01/2011 15:48, David Nelson wrote: I just looked and you do not seem to currently have an account on the site. I've admin rights for the FR project, are you sure I need to create another account? Of course not, enabled

Re: [libreoffice-website] relocating mailing lists at libreoffice.org?

2011-01-19 Thread Rimas Kudelis
Hi Florian, 2011.01.18 02:06, Florian Effenberger rašė: on the steering-discuss list, we currently discuss about @libreoffice.org e-mail addresses for community members. Just focusing on the technical issues for this mail: I would like to have those e-mail forwarders handled by a separate

Re: [libreoffice-website] L10n mailing list and l10n wiki link on the website

2011-01-19 Thread Sophie Gautier
Hi Erich, On 19/01/2011 18:33, Erich Christian wrote: Hi Sophie, [...] I've admin rights for the FR project, are you sure I need to create another account? Of course not, enabled publisher perms for main now, Thanks a lot! Kind regards Sophie -- Founding member of The Document Foundation

Re: [libreoffice-website] [Drupal] The road ahead and missed opportunities

2011-01-19 Thread Sophie Gautier
Hi Narayan, On 19/01/2011 19:58, Narayan Aras wrote: BTW I have consistently maintained that mail lists are not suitable to capture such matters. There are easy solutions available. But SC is not interested. So SC has to blame itself for (a) not reading the mail list. and (b) not installing

[libreoffice-website] Re: [tdf-discuss] [contribution] Screenshots urgently needed!

2011-01-19 Thread sophie
Hi all, Does anybody have work on this? Where can I find the screen shots, what still needs to be done? What is the deadline Thanks in advance Kind regards Sophie On 19/01/2011 08:54, Bernhard Dippold wrote: Hi all! This is an opportunity for community members interested in spending some

[libreoffice-website] Re: [Drupal] The road ahead and missed opportunities

2011-01-19 Thread Marc Paré
Hi Christian: Le 2011-01-19 10:04, Christian Lohmaier a écrit : Hi Marc, *, On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 4:39 AM, Marc Parém...@marcpare.com wrote: Le 2011-01-18 17:57, Christian Lohmaier a écrit : [...] As you say, people were not listening to each other. As a LibO member who did participate on

[libreoffice-website] Re: [Drupal] The road ahead and missed opportunities

2011-01-19 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2011-01-19 10:28, drew a écrit : This email is to the Drupal team, who all that is I am not sure. Guys I have my problems with the SC members and I am leaving because of it, perhaps not quick enough. What you guys are talking about now however is just wrong - you need to stop, no more

Re: [libreoffice-website] [Drupal] The road ahead and missed opportunities

2011-01-19 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2011-01-19 12:13 PM, Sophie Gautier wrote: Do I have to claim any time that I'm in the SC or that I'm a founding member no, because coming to this project, you know who we are, and how it is organized. When you enter to a home, you know who lives there, this is the same, exactly here.

Re: [libreoffice-website] [Drupal] The road ahead and missed opportunities

2011-01-19 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
2011/1/19 Charles Marcus cmar...@media-brokers.com On 2011-01-19 12:13 PM, Sophie Gautier wrote: Do I have to claim any time that I'm in the SC or that I'm a founding member no, because coming to this project, you know who we are, and how it is organized. When you enter to a home, you know

Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [Drupal] The road ahead and missed opportunities

2011-01-19 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi *, first apologies for the harsh words in the previous mail - but I was really angry to see the same wrong statements over and over again. On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com wrote: Le 2011-01-19 10:04, Christian Lohmaier a écrit : [...] There is no need for

Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [Drupal] The road ahead and missed opportunities

2011-01-19 Thread drew
Sorry - I really need to make one edit to my last email: On Wed, 2011-01-19 at 10:28 -0500, drew wrote: Guys I have my problems with decisions made by the SC members and I am leaving because of it, perhaps not quick enough, which I will pass on to them in a private email. - last mail to to

[libreoffice-website] Re: Wrong mail-archive.com URLs in header

2011-01-19 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi *, On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 12:27 AM, Christian Lohmaier lohmaier+ooofut...@googlemail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 12:06 AM, Christian Lohmaier lohmaier+ooofut...@googlemail.com wrote: [...] Since nobody provides the link (the one Klaus-Jürgen sent was not working for me... a

Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Wrong mail-archive.com URLs in header

2011-01-19 Thread klaus-jürgen weghorn ol
Hi Christian, Am 19.01.2011 21:37, schrieb Christian Lohmaier: Hi *, On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 12:27 AM, Christian Lohmaier lohmaier+ooofut...@googlemail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 12:06 AM, Christian Lohmaier lohmaier+ooofut...@googlemail.com wrote: [...] Since nobody provides the

Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [tdf-discuss] [contribution] Screenshots urgently needed!

2011-01-19 Thread Mark Morin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 If you could identify specifically which new features need screen shots, I can try to provide some. As reflected in today's linux magazine (http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7943?hq_e=elhq_m=1158951hq_l=3hq_v=c9af7a3724) the new features don't really seem

Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [tdf-discuss] [contribution] Screenshots urgently needed!

2011-01-19 Thread Mark Morin
Thanks for the link. I was using the link in linux magazine to the new features (from what looks like one of our sites) and was wondering how to capture screen shots of the listed features. This list is much more specific. I suppose I should have paid better attention to the original thread :-[

RE: [libreoffice-website] [Drupal] The road ahead and missed opportunities

2011-01-19 Thread Christoph Noack
Hi Narayan, I just finished reading the thread, and I'd like to come back to your mail. You've stated some project and development fundamentals, and that is something I'm very interested in ... how to tailer such methods and tools. And if I got it right, you as well :-) Am Mittwoch, den

Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [tdf-discuss] [contribution] Screenshots urgently needed!

2011-01-19 Thread Bernhard Dippold
Hi Mark, thanks for stepping in :-) As you didn't remove the old replies below your posting, the answer to some of your questions is already attached to your mail ;-) Mark Morin schrieb: [...] Should I attach them to a response to this list or some other address? As the list doesn't allow

[libreoffice-website] Back to top link for all pages (was: Current Website)

2011-01-19 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Klaus-Jürgen, *, On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 8:04 AM, klaus-jürgen weghorn ol o...@sophia-louise.de wrote: Am 13.01.2011 21:48, schrieb Christian Lohmaier: On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 3:21 PM, klaus-jürgen weghorn ol o...@sophia-louise.de  wrote: [back to top link like on the limesurvey site] And

Re: [libreoffice-website] LibreOffice website team inaugural conference call

2011-01-19 Thread David Nelson
Hi, :-) On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 22:22, Michael Wheatland mich...@wheatland.com.au wrote: On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 11:24 PM, Narayan Aras narayana...@hotmail.comwrote: Would it be possible to record the call and post a MP3  (with the MoMs) so the absentees can listen in later? We will be

Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [Drupal] The road ahead and missed opportunities

2011-01-19 Thread Michael Wheatland
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 12:58 AM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: This email is to the Drupal team, who all that is I am not sure. Guys I have my problems with the SC members and I am leaving because of it, perhaps not quick enough. What you guys are talking about now however is just wrong

Re: [libreoffice-website] L10n mailing list and l10n wiki link on the website

2011-01-19 Thread David Nelson
Hi Sophie, :-) On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 23:33, Erich Christian erich_...@irq.at wrote: I've admin rights for the FR project, are you sure I need to create another account? My mistake, sorry, I didn't look carefully enough. Currently I need to add the l10n address because there is no entry

Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [Drupal] The road ahead and missed opportunities

2011-01-19 Thread David Nelson
Hi, :-) Wow! What a debate! I second what Michael has just posted. Everyone interested in working on the libreoffice.org website, and in discussing ideas about website team organization, and in examining possible proposals to develop for submission to the SC should be there at the website team

Re: [libreoffice-website] Features screeshots for the website

2011-01-19 Thread David Nelson
Hi Sophie, :-) On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 01:18, Sophie Gautier gautier.sop...@gmail.com wrote: Where can I find what has been done? Is it LibO only or OOo too Who have work on it, is there still work needed? What is the deadline? All current screenshots can be found at:

Re: [libreoffice-website] LibreOffice website team inaugural conference call

2011-01-19 Thread Ivan M.
Hi Michael, David, all, On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 10:42 PM, Michael Wheatland mich...@wheatland.com.au wrote: David Nelson and myself are organising the inaugural LibreOffice website team conference call. To vote on the time please visit: http://doodle.com/wzy78i52av4h6din Is this the same

Re: [libreoffice-website] LibreOffice website team inaugural conference call

2011-01-19 Thread Michael Wheatland
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Ivan M. iv...@patentpending.co.nz wrote: Hi Michael, David, all, On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 10:42 PM, Michael Wheatland mich...@wheatland.com.au wrote: David Nelson and myself are organising the inaugural LibreOffice website team conference call. To vote

Re: [libreoffice-website] LibreOffice website team inaugural conference call

2011-01-19 Thread Michael Wheatland
There seems to be a consensus for the conference call. Is everybody happy if I close the poll and we select Friday 21 January @ 5pm GMT? Of the people who have expressed interest in coming along only Narayan is not able to make it at that time. I already have some notes from him regarding

Re: [libreoffice-website] LibreOffice website team inaugural conference call

2011-01-19 Thread David Nelson
Hi, :-) @Ivan: I suggest you sign-up for this one, Ivan: http://doodle.com/wzy78i52av4h6din @Michael: Zennn... On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 12:14, Michael Wheatland mich...@wheatland.com.au wrote: David and myself agree that the best way forward is for the website team to stand up

Re: [libreoffice-website] LibreOffice website team inaugural conference call

2011-01-19 Thread David Nelson
Hi, :-) On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 12:28, Michael Wheatland mich...@wheatland.com.au wrote: There seems to be a consensus for the conference call. Is everybody happy if I close the poll and we select Friday 21 January @ 5pm GMT? Seems OK to me. David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail

Re: [libreoffice-website] LibreOffice website team inaugural conference call

2011-01-19 Thread Christoph Noack
Am Donnerstag, den 20.01.2011, 13:03 +0800 schrieb David Nelson: And when we hold the confcall, I *implore* you *all* to desist from recriminations and blame and, instead, to focus on solutions for the future that will gain the satisfaction and commitment of the greatest number. ++1 My 2

RE: [libreoffice-website] [Drupal] The road ahead and missed opportunities

2011-01-19 Thread Narayan Aras
Good points (as always), Christoph! This is exactly what we expect from SC: Know the pulse of the community and guide any effort. Tailoring by SC is essential. I know I read the bare act from CMMI and PMBOK, but that's not how we should/would be applying it. Any corporate project and

Re: [libreoffice-website] Back to top link for all pages (was: Current Website)

2011-01-19 Thread klaus-jürgen weghorn ol
Hi Christian, *, Am 20.01.2011 01:38, schrieb Christian Lohmaier: Hi Klaus-Jürgen, *, On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 8:04 AM, klaus-jürgen weghorn ol o...@sophia-louise.de wrote: Am 13.01.2011 21:48, schrieb Christian Lohmaier: On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 3:21 PM, klaus-jürgen weghorn ol

Re: [libreoffice-website] LibreOffice website team inaugural conference call

2011-01-19 Thread Christoph Noack
Hi Michael, Ivan, all! I'd like to comment, here, since I don't like the term leaders in the website case. Well, there had been an official request to the SC for dedicated editing rights to ensure stability and harmonization (and some more ideas) of the website. The SC came to the conclusion

[libreoffice-website] Third level page in navbar

2011-01-19 Thread klaus-jürgen weghorn ol
Hi David, Christian, (was first a private mail) I know you are quite in a different deep thought but: on the German ML we have a discussion about the left navbar for the third page level. [1] We need this third level page and so we need a navigation. There are comments which dislike the left

Re: [libreoffice-website] Third level page in navbar

2011-01-19 Thread David Nelson
Hi Klaus, :-) I won't really provide an answer to this, as it's an area that's rather more especially under the coordination of Ivan at the moment, and he and Christian can answer you better. ;-) David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive:

Re: [libreoffice-website] Back to top link for all pages (was: Current Website)

2011-01-19 Thread Rimas Kudelis
2011.01.20 02:38, Christian Lohmaier rašė: Hi Klaus-Jürgen, *, On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 8:04 AM, klaus-jürgen weghorn ol o...@sophia-louise.de wrote: Am 13.01.2011 21:48, schrieb Christian Lohmaier: On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 3:21 PM, klaus-jürgen weghorn ol o...@sophia-louise.de wrote: [back