[libreoffice-website] Re: [WIKI] WYSIWYG editor

2012-10-05 Thread Marc Paré
Thanks for the preemptive post, I was just about to send a note in reply as a reminder. [*sad*] about the news though. Quite honestly, if we were to re-think the use of MediaWiki, I would consider the lack of a WYSIWYG editor a blocker to its adoption. It prevents people from our ordinary

Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [WIKI] WYSIWYG editor

2012-10-05 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hi, I have to second Marc here, except for his comment on Silverstripe. I realize a few people are used to the Mediawiki syntax (the languae and formatting used without the WYSIWYG editor) but if we take it out we will expect serious drops in productivity and contribution. I would suggest we

Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [WIKI] WYSIWYG editor

2012-10-05 Thread Volker Merschmann
Hi, 2012/10/5 Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org: I have to second Marc here, except for his comment on Silverstripe. I realize a few people are used to the Mediawiki syntax (the languae and formatting used without the WYSIWYG editor) but if we take it out we will expect

Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [WIKI] WYSIWYG editor

2012-10-05 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Le vendredi 05 octobre 2012 à 10:47 +0200, Volker Merschmann a écrit : Hi, 2012/10/5 Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org: I have to second Marc here, except for his comment on Silverstripe. I realize a few people are used to the Mediawiki syntax (the languae and

Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [WIKI] WYSIWYG editor

2012-10-05 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, Charles-H. Schulz wrote on 2012-10-05 10:35: I would suggest we look at alternatives for a wiki platform. we right now have about 3,3 GB of wiki data hosted in MediaWiki. I am not sure if there is an easy migration path, even if there were a wiki with a WYSIWYG editor, which I doubt

[libreoffice-website] Re: [WIKI] WYSIWYG editor

2012-10-05 Thread Marc Paré
Hi Volker, Le 2012-10-05 04:47, Volker Merschmann a écrit : I don't think so. The wiki is not intended to provide information to the wide public, but as a working tool and pinboard for the contributors inside the community. Many of them are able to use the wiki-syntax which is not that hard

[libreoffice-website] Donation NL websites -- PhotoShuffler How-to

2012-10-05 Thread Marc Paré
I just thought I would post this short How-to for those of you who have translated the Donate site and would like to initialize the PhotoShuffler on your site[1]. Note: you can see the PhotoShuffler in use on the main EN global donate site[1] -- it makes possible the rotation of photos. Once

[libreoffice-website] Re: [WIKI] WYSIWYG editor

2012-10-05 Thread Marc Paré
Hi Florian, Le 2012-10-05 05:13, Florian Effenberger a écrit : Hi, Marc Paré wrote on 2012-10-05 10:19: Quite honestly, if we were to re-think the use of MediaWiki, I would consider the lack of a WYSIWYG editor a blocker to its adoption. It prevents people from our ordinary ranks to jump in

[libreoffice-website] Re: [WIKI] WYSIWYG editor

2012-10-05 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2012-10-05 05:31, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit : I'm definitely not suggesting there's an easy choice here. My (humble) corporate experience in the matter, that does not deal with the migration from Media Wiki , would point to FOSS Wiki (www.fosswiki.org) but that's only an option, and it's a

Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [WIKI] WYSIWYG editor

2012-10-05 Thread Olivier Hallot
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Unless our own LibreOffice MediaWiki extension has flaws, I don't understand why it is not used as a viable alternative to a WYSIWYG editor. But a small how0to connect it to our TDF MW will be a must. Olivier Em 05-10-2012 06:14, Florian

[libreoffice-website] Re: [WIKI] WYSIWYG editor

2012-10-05 Thread Marc Paré
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [WIKI] WYSIWYG editor

2012-10-05 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Ooops: http://www.foswiki.org Best, Charles. Le vendredi 05 octobre 2012 à 06:26 -0400, Marc Paré a écrit : Le 2012-10-05 05:31, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit : I'm definitely not suggesting there's an easy choice here. My (humble) corporate experience in the matter, that does not deal

[libreoffice-website] Re: [WIKI] WYSIWYG editor

2012-10-05 Thread Marc Paré
Foswiki conversion extension for MediaWiki: http://foswiki.org/Extensions/MediaWikiToFoswikiContrib -- Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com http://www.parEntreprise.com parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org -- Unsubscribe

[libreoffice-website] Does wiki want to come out and play?

2012-10-05 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hello, I spent the last week with setting up our new wiki. I've copied all articles, users and most configuration settings, and enhanced them, based on the recent MediaWiki version. What is currently missing: - multiple languages - caching (thus it might be slow) -

Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [WIKI] WYSIWYG editor

2012-10-05 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, Marc Paré wrote on 2012-10-05 12:36: Foswiki conversion extension for MediaWiki: http://foswiki.org/Extensions/MediaWikiToFoswikiContrib if there's anything I'd like to avoid at ANY price, it's a migration to a new wiki. We make heavy use of MediaWiki extensions, and migrating that to

Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [WIKI] WYSIWYG editor

2012-10-05 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, Olivier Hallot wrote on 2012-10-05 12:34: Unless our own LibreOffice MediaWiki extension has flaws, I don't understand why it is not used as a viable alternative to a WYSIWYG editor. But a small how0to connect it to our TDF MW will be a must. that's a good point, indeed. I lack hands-on

Re: [libreoffice-website] Donation NL websites -- PhotoShuffler How-to

2012-10-05 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, Marc Paré wrote on 2012-10-05 12:18: I just thought I would post this short How-to for those of you who have translated the Donate site and would like to initialize the PhotoShuffler on your site[1]. Note: you can see the PhotoShuffler in use on the main EN global donate site[1] -- it makes

[libreoffice-website] Re: Does wiki want to come out and play?

2012-10-05 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Florian, On Fri, 2012-10-05 at 12:42 +0200, Florian Effenberger wrote: I spent the last week with setting up our new wiki. I've copied all articles, users and most configuration settings, and enhanced them, based on the recent MediaWiki version. Nice work ! :-) Please check

[libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Does wiki want to come out and play?

2012-10-05 Thread Jean Weber
Do you have installed the extension for rendering maths symbols? That is needed for some documentation. Maybe it is part of MediaWiki now, not an extension? I don't know. --Jean On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 12:42 PM, Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org wrote: Hello, I spent the last

Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Does wiki want to come out and play?

2012-10-05 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hello, Jean Weber wrote on 2012-10-05 13:41: Do you have installed the extension for rendering maths symbols? That is needed for some documentation. Maybe it is part of MediaWiki now, not an extension? I don't know. unfortunately, this does not work yet with recent MediaWiki versions:

Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [WIKI] WYSIWYG editor

2012-10-05 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Le vendredi 05 octobre 2012 à 13:26 +0200, Florian Effenberger a écrit : Hi, Olivier Hallot wrote on 2012-10-05 12:34: Unless our own LibreOffice MediaWiki extension has flaws, I don't understand why it is not used as a viable alternative to a WYSIWYG editor. But a small how0to connect

Re: [libreoffice-website] Translate donation-page

2012-10-05 Thread Joren
Webmasters [at] documentfoundation [point] org is in CC - a translation of the text Select one of the default values Kies een van onderstaande standaardwaarden - a translation of the text Or enter a custom amount and currency (only those marked with * are also available via PayPal) Of geef een

Re: [libreoffice-website] Translate donation-page

2012-10-05 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hello, Joren wrote on 2012-10-05 14:05: DonatePage in Dutch = DonatiePagina; but I don't know what this array-field stands for... So I didn't change it. I'm now busy to translate the page in Sylverstripe. thanks a lot, I have added your translation to our database! :) Florian -- Florian

Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [WIKI] WYSIWYG editor

2012-10-05 Thread C
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 1:11 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote: Foswiki conversion extension for MediaWiki: http://foswiki.org/Extensions/MediaWikiToFoswikiContrib if there's anything I'd like to avoid at ANY price, it's a migration to a new wiki. We make heavy use of MediaWiki extensions, and

Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [WIKI] WYSIWYG editor

2012-10-05 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 10/5/12 2:14 PM, C wrote: - As Florian noted (and linked), there is a new WYSIWYG editor in development. (works fine in Chrome on Linux by the way) Works fine on Firefox and Chrome for MacOS -- Italo Vignoli - italo.vign...@gmail.com mob +39.348.5653829 - VoIP 5316...@messagenet.it skype

Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [WIKI] WYSIWYG editor

2012-10-05 Thread Volker Merschmann
Hi Charles, 2012/10/5 Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org: I have to second Marc here, except for his comment on Silverstripe. I realize a few people are used to the Mediawiki syntax (the languae and formatting used without the WYSIWYG editor) but if we take it out we will

Re: [libreoffice-website] Translate donation-page

2012-10-05 Thread Joren
Hi, You're welcome. I just notice I translated our language code in the PHP-array wrong... I changed 'en_US' to 'nl'. I think our language code is 'nl_NL'. I have also translate the whole donation page and sended a request for publication. Kind regards, Joren Op 05-10-12 14:09, Florian

[libreoffice-website] Re: Translate donation-page

2012-10-05 Thread Joren
I think I did something wrong. I created the donation page as a 'pagina (page)', not as 'Donate Page (DonatePage)' :s. Can I easily change this page type? Joren Op 05-10-12 15:18, Florian Effenberger schreef: Hi, Joren wrote on 2012-10-05 15:01: You're welcome. I just notice I translated

Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Translate donation-page

2012-10-05 Thread Florian Effenberger
Already did so :) Joren wrote on 2012-10-05 15:21: Can I easily change this page type? -- Florian Effenberger, Chairman of the Board (Vorstandsvorsitzender) Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany Gemeinnützige

Re: [libreoffice-website] Donation NL websites -- PhotoShuffler How-to

2012-10-05 Thread Joren
Op 05-10-12 12:18, Marc Paré schreef: I just thought I would post this short How-to for those of you who have translated the Donate site and would like to initialize the PhotoShuffler on your site[1]. Note: you can see the PhotoShuffler in use on the main EN global donate site[1] -- it makes

[libreoffice-website] Re: Translate donation-page

2012-10-05 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Florian, *, On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org wrote: Joren wrote on 2012-10-05 15:01: You're welcome. I just notice I translated our language code in the PHP-array wrong... I changed 'en_US' to 'nl'. I think our language code is 'nl_NL'.

[libreoffice-website] Re: Translate donation-page

2012-10-05 Thread Joren
Op 05-10-12 15:59, Christian Lohmaier schreef: Hi Florian, *, On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org wrote: Joren wrote on 2012-10-05 15:01: You're welcome. I just notice I translated our language code in the PHP-array wrong... I changed 'en_US' to

Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Translate donation-page

2012-10-05 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, Christian Lohmaier wrote on 2012-10-05 15:59: Also note that using 20 € as custom amount is somewhat pointless, as 20 € already is in the suggested/default list of amounts. ooops, good point, can you fix it? Thanks, Florian (who is right now deploying the new wiki also to the intranet ;)

Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Translate donation-page

2012-10-05 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Flo, On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org wrote: Christian Lohmaier wrote on 2012-10-05 15:59: Also note that using 20 € as custom amount is somewhat pointless, as 20 € already is in the suggested/default list of amounts. ooops, good point,

[libreoffice-website] wiki antispam measures

2012-10-05 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hello, there are two more wiki antispam measures which, so far, I did *not* enable, but I'd like to ask all of you to have a look in the future whether they make sense. The wiki can ask for a captcha, even for registered users, when an external URL is added to a page. The wiki can also

[libreoffice-website] Re: [WIKI] WYSIWYG editor

2012-10-05 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2012-10-05 08:14, C a écrit : This was one of the major reasons behind not migrating the OOo wiki (a few years ago). Some things that people are maybe not considering when they say that WYSIWYG editor is a make/break for the LibreOffice Wiki: - MediaWiki is not obscure. This is the Wiki

[libreoffice-website] Re: Donation NL websites -- PhotoShuffler How-to

2012-10-05 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2012-10-05 07:28, Florian Effenberger a écrit : Hi, Marc Paré wrote on 2012-10-05 12:18: I just thought I would post this short How-to for those of you who have translated the Donate site and would like to initialize the PhotoShuffler on your site[1]. Note: you can see the PhotoShuffler in

Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Translate donation-page

2012-10-05 Thread Joren
Hi, I asked our community to review my translations. There is a translation that require a fix in the database (I can't edit it in SilverStripe): * Translation now: Of geef een bepaald bedrag en valuta op (enkel de opties met een * zijn ook beschikbaar via PayPal * Change to: Of kies

[libreoffice-website] Re: Does wiki want to come out and play?

2012-10-05 Thread Marc Paré
.png's not showing. Maybe just on the test site? http://wikitest.documentfoundation.org/Visual_Elements Marc -- Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com http://www.parEntreprise.com parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org -- Unsubscribe

Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Does wiki want to come out and play? - Problem - ReCaptcha

2012-10-05 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
and if any of the newly-introduced limitations for spam protection interrupt with your productive work Hi I know, from administrator's view ReCaptcha is a good tool to keep away spam and bots. From visitor's view ReCaptcha is a horrible hurdle especially for disabled people, we had this

Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Does wiki want to come out and play?

2012-10-05 Thread Florian Effenberger
Is fixed now, was my mistake Marc Paré wrote on 2012-10-05 17:09: .png's not showing. Maybe just on the test site? http://wikitest.documentfoundation.org/Visual_Elements -- Florian Effenberger, Chairman of the Board (Vorstandsvorsitzender) Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108

Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Does wiki want to come out and play? - Problem - ReCaptcha

2012-10-05 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, Rainer Bielefeld wrote on 2012-10-05 17:42: Please try an other solution to protect the wiki from bots. do you have one at hand? I heard vetoes for *any* solutions I presented. We can only use Captchas in whatever way, or create accounts manually upon request, both is not very

Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Translate donation-page

2012-10-05 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, Joren wrote on 2012-10-05 17:08: This is a better translation AND I forgot to close the bracket. thanks, incorporated now :) Florian -- Florian Effenberger, Chairman of the Board (Vorstandsvorsitzender) Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 The Document Foundation,

Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Translate donation-page

2012-10-05 Thread Joren DC
Hi, I have made some changes to the dutch donation page. I can only Save, delete the page from concept site, and cancel the changes of this concept. It seems like I have not the right permissions to (request) publication. Can somebody apply the changes, or give me again the appropriate

Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Donation NL websites -- PhotoShuffler How-to

2012-10-05 Thread Joren DC
Hi Marc, I followed your steps, but I still got an empty window when I click on Add image resources. I don't have this problem on the dutch localization libreoffice website. See attachment (I also know that the mailinglist doesn't support attachments, but I send this message to Marc in

[libreoffice-website] Re: Donation NL websites -- PhotoShuffler How-to

2012-10-05 Thread Marc Paré
Hi KJ Le 2012-10-05 14:34, klaus-jürgen weghorn ol a écrit : I have had the same problem [1], it only exists when I go to the translated page and I think that it is a problem of rights for the pages. [1] http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/msg05944.html @Marc: I attach the

Re: [libreoffice-website] Does wiki want to come out and play? - Possible Problem - ReCaptcha

2012-10-05 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Florian Effenberger schrieb: all the functions work, and if any of the newly-introduced limitations for spam protection interrupt with your productive work Hi all, any thoughts concerning the ReCaptcha at create account page? I can't handle that even without any visual handicap (except

Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Does wiki want to come out and play? - Problem - ReCaptcha

2012-10-05 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Florian Effenberger schrieb: do you have one at hand? I heard vetoes for *any* solutions I presented. Hi Florian, not really. There are many alternative Captcha alternatives with the advantage that it's not so difficult to read and input the shown code. My wife is visually handicapped,