Re: [whatwg] Some video questions

2008-01-31 Thread Henri Sivonen
On Jan 31, 2008, at 03:01, Charles wrote: Semantically, you don't want web video (regardless of format) to be marked up as video? What would be the benefit of instantiating the Flash Player with video? Wouldn't it just be less compatible than object/embed? (Also, since video isn't a

Re: [whatwg] A potential slight security enhancement to postMessage

2008-01-31 Thread Jeff Walden
Maciej Stachowiak wrote: The more convenient version of that would be to require clients to describe allowed senders when registering for the event in some way. I thought about this, but then we necessarily lose the familiarity of the standard event-listener registration process, which

[whatwg] Http-equiv priority

2008-01-31 Thread Keryx Web
Hi! Reading MS proposal (=decision!) about their new rendering mode switch, I have been very bugged that almost no one has picked up this flaw to be discussed: If a charset is set with a meta-element, it does *not* override the http-header. But If a rendering mode is set with a

Re: [whatwg] Canvas patterns, and miscellaneous other things

2008-01-31 Thread Krzysztof Żelechowski
Dnia 31-01-2008, Cz o godzinie 02:02 +, Ian Hickson pisze: On Sat, 23 Jun 2007, Philip Taylor wrote: Similarly, what should toDataURL do when the canvas is really large and the browser doesn't want to give you a data URI? (Opera returns 'undefined' if it's = 30001 pixels in any

Re: [whatwg] Some video questions

2008-01-31 Thread Christoph Päper
Charles: I was hoping that video would make Objecty http://wiltgen.net/ objecty/ redundant by making it easy for authors to embed video in a very simple, normalized fashion across formats, browsers and OSs. The |video| element in HTML5 will make it easy to embed videos (potentially

Re: [whatwg] A potential slight security enhancement to postMessage

2008-01-31 Thread Aaron Boodman
On Thu, Jan 31, 2008 at 4:25 AM, Jeff Walden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maciej Stachowiak wrote: The more convenient version of that would be to require clients to describe allowed senders when registering for the event in some way. I thought about this, but then we necessarily lose the

Re: [whatwg] Some video questions

2008-01-31 Thread Charles
[Charles] Now I understand that video will be considered successful without having fixed video embeddeding in general, which is fine. [Christopher] Your loose use of terminology and snappy tone are seriously not helping. If what you quoted above is an example of my tone, then you're

Re: [whatwg] Some video questions

2008-01-31 Thread Geoffrey Sneddon
On 31 Jan 2008, at 17:50, Charles wrote: If it's that the SWF references a FLV, QuickTime Movies have been able to reference media pretty much forever, and when you embed an ASX with references with Windows Media content, you're still embedding video even though the metafile happens to be

Re: [whatwg] Http-equiv priority

2008-01-31 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 31 Jan 2008, Keryx Web wrote: Reading MS proposal (=decision!) about their new rendering mode switch, I have been very bugged that almost no one has picked up this flaw to be discussed: If a charset is set with a meta-element, it does *not* override the http-header. But

Re: [whatwg] scope attribute on td

2008-01-31 Thread James Graham
Keryx Web wrote: James Graham skrev: FWIW the HTML 4 behavior which turns a td scope=somthing into a heading from the point of view of the UA is, in principle, useful since there are cases (particularly for row headings) where one cell is effectively both data and a heading but the formatting

Re: [whatwg] Canvas arcTo

2008-01-31 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 2 Jul 2007, Philip Taylor wrote: As implemented, the operation of arcTo in Firefox (2, 3) and Opera (9.2, 9.5) is utterly unrelated to the spec and arguably crazy. At least Opera has the right spirit and tries drawing arcs between points, though they're the wrong points and they're

Re: [whatwg] Some video questions

2008-01-31 Thread Charles
Inserting a [SWF] file into a video element is similar to inserting an HTML file that happens to have a link to video: sure, it links to a video, but it does a billion other things too - it isn't in itself the video. I hear you. FWIW, here's a QuickTime Movie that's also not in itself the

Re: [whatwg] Canvas arc

2008-01-31 Thread Ian Hickson
On Tue, 3 Jul 2007, Philip Taylor wrote: For the 'arc' function: What if startAngle = endAngle? Now defined as zero length arc. What if endAngle 2π + startAngle? (The endAngle = 2π + startAngle case isn't interesting since floating-point imprecision means it will never occur.)

Re: [whatwg] Some video questions

2008-01-31 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Jan 31, 2008, at 3:01 PM, Charles wrote: Inserting a [SWF] file into a video element is similar to inserting an HTML file that happens to have a link to video: sure, it links to a video, but it does a billion other things too - it isn't in itself the video. I hear you. FWIW, here's a

Re: [whatwg] Referer header sent with a ping?

2008-01-31 Thread Darin Fisher
On Jan 30, 2008 12:33 PM, Ian Hickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 23 Jan 2008, Darin Fisher wrote: HTTP auth headers may be required to access the internet (e.g., to pass a request through a proxy server), so this should only apply to the Authorization request header, right? On

Re: [whatwg] Compatibility problems with HTML5 Canvas spec.

2008-01-31 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 24 Sep 2007, Oliver Hunt wrote: The first problem is the repeated drawing of old rects, this is due to the context path not being cleared by draw rect and fill rect which is the behaviour present in Safari 2 and Firefox 2. While I've discussed the issue with Hixie in the past (and

Re: [whatwg] Compatibility problems with HTML5 Canvas spec.

2008-01-31 Thread Ian Hickson
On Tue, 25 Sep 2007, Vladimir Vukicevic wrote: I agree that throwing an exception is probably unnecessary, as there are very few other places in the API where such exceptions are thrown (except when the input is of clearly the wrong type). Normalizing seems to be the most useful approach --

Re: [whatwg] Compatibility problems with HTML5 Canvas spec.

2008-01-31 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 27 Sep 2007, Anne van Kesteren wrote: Cool! I suppose that leaves the issue about revisiting throwing exception for certain members? Are there any member where it does make to throw an exception? If we decide not to throw an exception something has to be decided for Infinity

Re: [whatwg] Compatibility problems with HTML5 Canvas spec.

2008-01-31 Thread Oliver Hunt
I'll try to look at the updated spec later tonight, and see if i can see if there's anything for which it seems sensible to me for canvas to throw (or not throw) left in the spec. My current feeling is that for most operations it is sane to fail silently for out of bounds numbers, inf, or

Re: [whatwg] Canvas comments

2008-01-31 Thread Ian Hickson
On Tue, 25 Dec 2007, Ilmari Heikkinen wrote: Some comments on the canvas spec, based on my experiences in writing a SVG renderer and some interaction demos on canvas (http://glimr.rubyforge.org/cake/canvas.html) Cool stuff. I would change the transforms to affect only path segments,

Re: [whatwg] Minor addition/rewording for canvas section

2008-01-31 Thread Ian Hickson
On Sun, 13 Jan 2008, Oliver Hunt wrote: Section 3.14.11 contains the statement: Security: To prevent information leakage, the toDataURL() and getImageData() methods should raise a security exception if the canvas has ever had an image painted on it whose origin is different from that of