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On Mon, 2 Aug 2010, Chris Pearce wrote:
There's a race condition in the media load algorithm. When the resource
selection algorithm begins, it sets a task to complete the rest of the
resource selection algorithm asynchronously.
Not quite. It awaits a stable state and then runs a synchronous
Dennis wrote:
I have an idea which would be very cool for HTML5.
Having a Content-Disposition property on a tags which does the same as
the HTTP Header.
For example changing the file name of the file to be downloaded or rather
have a image
file download rather than it being shown in the
I'm really not too sure what pre-existing problem this actually solves.
Given that a server sets the correct mime-types for a given resource, we
know what type it is already.
Setting the Content-disposition on the client side creates an annoying user
experience.
If I want to open a link in a new
On Aug 1, 2010, at 6:59 PM, Tantek Çelik wrote:
Summary: The new 'sandbox' feature on iframe should be considered
for removal. It needs a security review, it will be a lot of work to
implement properly, and may not actually solve the problem it is
intending to solve.
More details here:
On 07/30/2010 06:43 AM, Oliver Hunt wrote:
all array functions defined in ES5 are generic in that they work
over any array-like object.
They're guaranteed to work over any array-like native JavaScript object.
They're *not* guaranteed to work on host objects like the various node
lists.
On 8/2/10 5:17 AM, Ian Hickson wrote:
There's a race condition in the media load algorithm. When the resource
selection algorithm begins, it sets a task to complete the rest of the
resource selection algorithm asynchronously.
Not quite. It awaits a stable state and then runs a synchronous
Jeremy Keith jer...@adactio.com wrote:
Dennis wrote:
...
Hang on... isn't the mechanism for this already available via the type
attribute?
For example:
a href=/path/to/image.jpg type=image/jpegFull size image/a
That wouldn't help in this case...
A browser could offer a preference
Ben Schwarz ben.schw...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm really not too sure what pre-existing problem this actually solves.
Given that a server sets the correct mime-types for a given resource, we
know what type it is already.
Yes, since we don't want to set MIME-Types. I want to be able to set
what a
Dennis wrote:
Yes, but that wouldn't help since I want to force downloads regardless
of the browser settings.
Ah, I see. In that case, I fundamentally disagree with what you are asking for.
Final control should be in the hands of the user, not the author.
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On Mon, 2010-08-02 at 18:09 +0200, Dennis Joachimsthaler wrote:
Ben Schwarz ben.schw...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm really not too sure what pre-existing problem this actually solves.
Given that a server sets the correct mime-types for a given resource, we
know what type it is already.
Yes,
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Michael Kozakewich
mkozakew...@icosidodecahedron.com wrote:
Dennis wrote:
Yes, but that wouldn't help since I want to force downloads regardless
of the browser settings. Maybe it would do if the type was set to
application/octet-stream, since those, by default,
On Aug 2, 2010, at 7:36 AM, And Clover wrote:
On 07/30/2010 06:43 AM, Oliver Hunt wrote:
all array functions defined in ES5 are generic in that they work
over any array-like object.
They're guaranteed to work over any array-like native JavaScript object.
They're *not* guaranteed to work
On 2 Aug 2010, at 17:21, Michael Kozakewich wrote:
Dennis wrote:
Yes, but that wouldn't help since I want to force downloads regardless
of the browser settings. Maybe it would do if the type was set to
application/octet-stream, since those, by default, always get downloaded.
People don't
2010/8/2 Kornel Lesiński kor...@geekhood.net:
Downloads can be forced already with Content-Disposition: attachment. It's
just harder to do, and unfortunately that doesn't stop webmasters from
trying. Popular PHP snippets for forcing download are among the most
disgusting cargo-cult code
Kornel Lesiński kor...@geekhood.net wrote:
On 2 Aug 2010, at 17:21, Michael Kozakewich wrote:
I agree that it's not good to force users in general. However, this
attribute can be implemented only as a hint for browsers to display
Open/Save dialog. Users wouldn't be forced to download the
Am 02.08.2010 18:21 schrieb Michael Kozakewich:
Dennis wrote:
Yes, but that wouldn't help since I want to force downloads regardless
of the browser settings. Maybe it would do if the type was set to
application/octet-stream, since those, by default, always get downloaded.
People don't often
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Michael Kozakewich
mkozakew...@icosidodecahedron.com wrote:
People don't often like it when they're forced to do something. If they want
to download it, they can select Save Link As... from their browser.
If the author can predict that the user probably wants to
On 8/2/10 1:15 PM, Aryeh Gregor wrote:
If you don't agree that this use-case is worth adding the feature for,
do you think that:
3) Something else?
For the use case your describe, it might just make more sense for
browsers to support Content-Disposition on data: URIs directly
somehow...
Am 01.08.2010 11:43 schrieb Tantek Çelik:
http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/Img_Alt
I encourage fellow web authors to add opinions/comments.
My personal opinion on the alt attribute is that:
- it should only be used if the image is crucial for understanding the
content, or for navigation (such as
If a site could create multiple Storage areas, then I would agree that per-item
expiration wouldn't be necessary and we could get along fine with per-storage
expiration. However, that's not the case, and the expiration use case is
clearly already present.
Having every developer that wants to
On Mon, 2010-08-02 at 17:19 +0200, Markus Ernst wrote:
- search engines should generally ignore text in the alt attribute,
but
evaluate the title attribute instead
Rationale:
4.8.1.1.12 says: A corollary to this is that the alt attribute's
value
should never contain text that could
On Mon, 2 Aug 2010, Boris Zbarsky wrote:
So the model is that there are asynchronous tasks but there are also
things that run after the current asynchronous task finishes?
It's a little more detailed than that, but yes, that describes the event
loop model.
How are we defining current
On 8/2/10, Oliver Hunt oli...@apple.com wrote:
On Aug 2, 2010, at 7:36 AM, And Clover wrote:
On 07/30/2010 06:43 AM, Oliver Hunt wrote:
all array functions defined in ES5 are generic in that they work
over any array-like object.
They're guaranteed to work over any array-like native
On 8/2/10 3:11 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
How are we defining current asynchronous task and finish?
In terms of the event loop algorithm:
http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/complete/webappapis.html#processing-model-2
Ah, I see. Is the note there about synchronous sections
On Aug 2, 2010, at 12:57 PM, Garrett Smith wrote:
I also linked to the old catchalls proposal earlier in the thread.
That is because the host objects mentioned here have a specialized
catchall behavior that isn't yet defined by any specification, so
when the code has property access with an
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 11:23 AM, Nicholas Zakas nza...@yahoo-inc.com wrote:
If a site could create multiple Storage areas, then I would agree that
per-item expiration wouldn't be necessary and we could get along fine with
per-storage expiration. However, that's not the case, and the
On Mon, 2 Aug 2010, Boris Zbarsky wrote:
On 8/2/10 3:11 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
How are we defining current asynchronous task and finish?
In terms of the event loop algorithm:
http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/complete/webappapis.html#processing-model-2
Ah, I
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Alex Russell slightly...@google.com wrote:
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 4:18 AM, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote:
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
The e-mails quoted below consist of the salient points of this thread:
On Fri,
On 08/02/2010 09:57 PM, Garrett Smith wrote:
Can it be argued as to what integer index means? And what is a string index?
Good catch, that's pretty ambiguous language. Browsers implement this as
if integer index were equal to the term array index defined section
15.4 of ECMA262 (that is an
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010, Vladimir Vukicevic wrote:
A while ago questions came up in the WebGL WG about using a canvas with
multiple rendering contexts, and synchronization issues that arise
there. Here's our suggested change to getContext.
This seems overly complex. I've gone for a somewhat
On 2/08/2010 9:17 p.m., Ian Hickson wrote:
On Mon, 2 Aug 2010, Chris Pearce wrote:
There's a race condition in the media load algorithm. When the resource
selection algorithm begins, it sets a task to complete the rest of the
resource selection algorithm asynchronously.
Not quite. It awaits a
On 8/2/10, And Clover and...@doxdesk.com wrote:
On 08/02/2010 09:57 PM, Garrett Smith wrote:
Can it be argued as to what integer index means? And what is a string
index?
Good catch, that's pretty ambiguous language. Browsers implement this as
if integer index were equal to the term array
Yes, for IndexDB I think having a per-storage area expiration date completely
makes sense. Do you expect that IndexedDB will become a successor to
sessionStorage/localStorage? My belief is that the simple key-value store
paradigm would still end up being the default client-side data storage
On 8/2/10, Garrett Smith dhtmlkitc...@gmail.com wrote:
On 8/2/10, And Clover and...@doxdesk.com wrote:
On 08/02/2010 09:57 PM, Garrett Smith wrote:
[...]
({}).hasOwnProperty.call(document.links, 0);
- and resulting true in IE.
However, that hasOwnProperty check does not always true for
On Fri, 30 Apr 2010, Eduard Pascual wrote:
Basically, most of the issues with headings boil down to a single fact:
the sectioning model is (probably needlessly) over-bloated. [...]
And now, in HTML5, not only have h1-6 been kept, but a plethora of new
elements: section, nav, aside,
On Fri, 30 Apr 2010, L. David Baron wrote:
http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/links.html#selector-checked
defines what elements match the :checked pseudo-class. However, I
think it's missing an important case: selected option elements
within a select.
On Fri, 30 Apr 2010, L. David Baron wrote:
For a long time, Gecko has implemented the behavior that the
:default pseudo-class matches checkboxes, radios, and options that
are selected by default (i.e., anything that matches :checked by
default). I think supporting it for option elements is
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Nicholas Zakas nza...@yahoo-inc.com wrote:
Yes, for IndexDB I think having a per-storage area expiration date completely
makes sense. Do you expect that IndexedDB will become a successor to
sessionStorage/localStorage? My belief is that the simple key-value
On Fri, 30 Apr 2010, L. David Baron wrote:
http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/links.html#selector-link
says:
# All a elements that have an href attribute, all area elements
# that have an href attribute, and all link elements that have an
# href attribute, must
On Sat, 1 May 2010, rya...@mail.com wrote:
My suggestion for the HTML5 spec is that the video tag should have a
feature that can enable GPU acceleration on a user's graphics card, so
it will take some stress off the CPU.
Do you like my suggestion?
Why would a user ever want anyone to
This thread primarily discussed ways to allow users to log in and out of
sites, possibly through improvements to the forms model.
This is an area that seems to be under a lot of active research, so it's
probably premature to change the HTML spec at this point. I haven't
introduced any new
On Wed, 5 May 2010, yael.aha...@nokia.com wrote:
I have a couple of questions regarding the meter element.
1. I could not find the meter element in the tables in
http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/Overview.html#annotations-for-assistive-technology-products-aria.
What is the ARIA role for the
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 5:53 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
On Sat, 1 May 2010, rya...@mail.com wrote:
My suggestion for the HTML5 spec is that the video tag should have a
feature that can enable GPU acceleration on a user's graphics card, so
it will take some stress off the CPU.
Do
On Wed, 5 May 2010, Charles Pritchard wrote:
On 5/5/2010 12:42 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
On Wed, 5 May 2010, Charles Pritchard wrote:
Awhile ago, it appears, the files object was removed from input
type=url
files doesn't really make much sense for type=url... Do you mean
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 6:43 PM, Dirk Pranke dpra...@chromium.org wrote:
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 5:53 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
On Sat, 1 May 2010, rya...@mail.com wrote:
My suggestion for the HTML5 spec is that the video tag should have a
feature that can enable GPU
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
This thread primarily discussed ways to allow users to log in and out of
sites, possibly through improvements to the forms model.
This is an area that seems to be under a lot of active research, so it's
probably premature to
On Mon, 2 Aug 2010, Dirk Pranke wrote:
Why would a user ever want anyone to disable their GPU acceleration?
I believe I've heard people say that they might sometimes want this for
power management, i.e. performing the same computation on the GPU might
take more power than performing it
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
On Mon, 2 Aug 2010, Dirk Pranke wrote:
Why would a user ever want anyone to disable their GPU acceleration?
I believe I've heard people say that they might sometimes want this for
power management, i.e. performing the same
On Wed, 5 May 2010, Simpson, Grant Leyton wrote:
Is there any value in adding an href or uri or similar attribute to
the cite element to indicate a location for a work (or information
about the work) or, in the case of a URI, an indicator that can be used
as a reference programmatically?
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 7:09 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
On Mon, 2 Aug 2010, Dirk Pranke wrote:
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
On Mon, 2 Aug 2010, Dirk Pranke wrote:
Why would a user ever want anyone to disable their GPU acceleration?
I
On 8/2/10 5:20 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
Or does stop the currently running task in #spin-the-event-loop imply
a jump to step 2 of the algorithm under #processing-model2?
Yes.
OK, that might be worth clarifying.
(Note: I still have a problem with the way pause is defined here, but
I've raised
Perhaps to avoid the legacy baggage it could be a simple attribute
eg. a href=blah download
This would prevent duplicating 'type', and bringing in all the
knowledge people seem to not have about how 'content-disposition'
works in headers.
or even an extension of target?
eg. a href=blah
On 8/2/2010 6:54 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
On Wed, 5 May 2010, Charles Pritchard wrote:
Sorry, it didn't make much sense: I meant a FileList object which
FileReader would use.
I still don't really see what you want here.
Is there currently a method for allowing cross-domain access
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