Re: [whatwg] alt= and the meta name=generator exception

2012-08-01 Thread Ian Hickson
On Tue, 24 Jul 2012, Jukka K. Korpela wrote: 2012-07-24 21:58, Ian Hickson wrote: On Tue, 24 Jul 2012, Edward O'Connor wrote: The spec currently disallows conformance checkers from reporting img elements without alt= attributes as an error when meta name=generator is present[1].

Re: [whatwg] alt= and the meta name=generator exception

2012-08-01 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
2012-08-01 10:56, Ian Hickson wrote: Only generators are in a position where they might have to include images for which they lack the ability to provide alt texts. A simple counter-example to that: A human employee who has been told to add some images to a web page, without having been told

Re: [whatwg] allowfullscreen vs sandbox=allow-fullscreen, and mimicking for pointer lock

2012-08-01 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 12:33 AM, Adam Barth w...@adambarth.com wrote: Main frame: a.html - iframe src=b.html - iframe src=c.html allowfullscreen Can c.html go full screen? Where is that specified? https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17838 I did not want to define new HTML

Re: [whatwg] allowfullscreen vs sandbox=allow-fullscreen, and mimicking for pointer lock

2012-08-01 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@annevk.nl wrote: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17838 I did not want to define new HTML features in a separate draft. So Vincent, if you want to argue for a different design, that bug would be the place I think. I do not

Re: [whatwg] alt= and the meta name=generator exception

2012-08-01 Thread Nils Dagsson Moskopp
Jukka K. Korpela jkorp...@cs.tut.fi schrieb am Wed, 01 Aug 2012 11:53:41 +0300: 2012-08-01 10:56, Ian Hickson wrote: […] The problem is that some generators -- e.g. software that converts word processor documents to HTML -- are in a position where they sometimes cannot possibly

Re: [whatwg] alt and title attribute exception

2012-08-01 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Tue, 31 Jul 2012 14:03:02 +0200, Steve Faulkner faulkner.st...@gmail.com wrote: title has differing semantics to alt. In situations where alt it not present on an img but title is, in webkit based browsers the title attribute content is displayed on mouse hover and is also displayed in

Re: [whatwg] alt and title attribute exception

2012-08-01 Thread Henri Sivonen
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.com wrote: When this was last discussed in the HTML WG (January 2012) I opened a bug (MOBILE-275) for Opera Mobile to expose the title attribute in our long-click menu, arguing that one could not enjoy XKCD without it. I meant

Re: [whatwg] alt and title attribute exception

2012-08-01 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Wed, 01 Aug 2012 14:56:23 +0200, Henri Sivonen hsivo...@iki.fi wrote: On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.com wrote: When this was last discussed in the HTML WG (January 2012) I opened a bug (MOBILE-275) for Opera Mobile to expose the title attribute in our

Re: [whatwg] alt and title attribute exception

2012-08-01 Thread Leif Halvard Silli
Philip Jägenstedt Wed Aug 1 05:05:15 PDT 2012: On Tue, 31 Jul 2012 14:03:02 +0200, Steve Faulkner wrote: title has differing semantics to alt. In situations where alt it not present on an img but title is, in webkit based browsers the title attribute content is displayed on mouse hover and

Re: [whatwg] allowfullscreen vs sandbox=allow-fullscreen, and mimicking for pointer lock

2012-08-01 Thread Vincent Scheib
Thank you Adam, ROC, Anne. I commented on issue. On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 2:05 AM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@annevk.nl wrote: On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@annevk.nl wrote: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17838 I did not want to define new HTML

Re: [whatwg] alt and title attribute exception

2012-08-01 Thread Steve Faulkner
Hi Philip, you wrote: To be very clear, you agree with the spec, think that WebKit is wrong and would not offer any applause if Opera were to use the title attribute to replace images when images are disabled and there is no alt attribute? I don't have a strong view on the display of title

Re: [whatwg] alt and title attribute exception

2012-08-01 Thread Steve Faulkner
Hi leif, you wrote: [I suppose 'the spec' means the W3 HTML5 spec?] no, i believe we are discussing what's in HTML living standard. regards SteveF Philip Jägenstedt Wed Aug 1 05:05:15 PDT 2012: On Tue, 31 Jul 2012 14:03:02 +0200, Steve Faulkner wrote: title has differing semantics to alt.

Re: [whatwg] alt and title attribute exception

2012-08-01 Thread Steve Faulkner
Hi Henri, you wrote: Firefox for Android (at least on the Nightly channel) displays the content of the title attribute on XKCD comics (up to a length limit which can often be too limiting) upon tap and hold: http://hsivonen.iki.fi/screen/xkcd-firefox-for-android.png; that's useful data, too bad

[whatwg] DOMTokenList enable

2012-08-01 Thread Erik Arvidsson
Most JS libraries has a way to add or remove a class name based on a boolean parameter. I'm suggesting we add a way to do this to DOMTokenList. The semantics would be the same as the following pure JS implementation. DOMTokenList.prototype.enable = function(name, value) { value ?

Re: [whatwg] DOMTokenList enable

2012-08-01 Thread Ms2ger
On 08/01/2012 11:07 PM, Erik Arvidsson wrote: Most JS libraries has a way to add or remove a class name based on a boolean parameter. I'm suggesting we add a way to do this to DOMTokenList. The semantics would be the same as the following pure JS implementation. DOMTokenList.prototype.enable =