On Tue, 31 Jul 2012 14:03:02 +0200, Steve Faulkner
faulkner.st...@gmail.com wrote:
title has differing semantics to alt. In situations where alt it not
present on an img but title is, in webkit based browsers the title
attribute content is displayed on mouse hover and is also displayed in
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.com wrote:
When this was last discussed in the HTML WG (January 2012) I opened a bug
(MOBILE-275) for Opera Mobile to expose the title attribute in our
long-click menu, arguing that one could not enjoy XKCD without it. I meant
On Wed, 01 Aug 2012 14:56:23 +0200, Henri Sivonen hsivo...@iki.fi wrote:
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.com
wrote:
When this was last discussed in the HTML WG (January 2012) I opened a
bug
(MOBILE-275) for Opera Mobile to expose the title attribute in our
Philip Jägenstedt Wed Aug 1 05:05:15 PDT 2012:
On Tue, 31 Jul 2012 14:03:02 +0200, Steve Faulkner wrote:
title has differing semantics to alt. In situations where alt it not
present on an img but title is, in webkit based browsers the title
attribute content is displayed on mouse hover and
Hi Philip,
you wrote:
To be very clear, you agree with the spec, think that WebKit is wrong and
would not offer any applause if Opera were to use the title attribute to
replace images when images are disabled and there is no alt attribute?
I don't have a strong view on the display of title
Hi leif,
you wrote:
[I suppose 'the spec' means the W3 HTML5 spec?]
no, i believe we are discussing what's in HTML living standard.
regards
SteveF
Philip Jägenstedt Wed Aug 1 05:05:15 PDT 2012:
On Tue, 31 Jul 2012 14:03:02 +0200, Steve Faulkner wrote:
title has differing semantics to alt.
Sivonen hsivo...@iki.fi
To: whatwg wha...@whatwg.org
Subject: Re: [whatwg] alt and title attribute exception
Message-ID:
CAJQvAufAJp=PN=gAKD3oUCL4suwwWdMg6=
cfbqewrvgipvs...@mail.gmail.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Philip J?genstedt
On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 11:34:03 +0200, Steve Faulkner
faulkner.st...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
The spec currently allows img without alt if the title attribute is
present
This is problematic for a number of reasons:
1. One of the functions of alt as implemented is that the text is
displayed
On Tue, 31 Jul 2012 11:18:37 +0200, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.com
wrote:
AFAICT there's also no way to read the alt attribute on Opera Mobile.
You mean title, right?
(alt can be read by turning of image loading - although the famous bug
http://a11ybugs.org/bug-3.php (I know a few
On Tue, 31 Jul 2012 11:48:52 +0200, Chaals McCathieNevile w...@chaals.com
wrote:
On Tue, 31 Jul 2012 11:18:37 +0200, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.com
wrote:
AFAICT there's also no way to read the alt attribute on Opera Mobile.
You mean title, right?
(alt can be read by turning of
Hi Philip,
the spec currently says of the alt attribute [1]:
the value of the alt attribute provides equivalent content for those who
cannot process images or who have image loading disabled (i.e. it is the
img element's fallback content).
The alt attribute does not represent advisory
Apologies.
the last sentence should have read:
The last point is another reason why making the title attribute on images
(without alt) conforming,
IS NOT good for users,
is that the semantics, for all users, are ambiguous.
regards
Stevef
On 31 July 2012 13:03, Steve Faulkner
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Steve Faulkner
faulkner.st...@gmail.com wrote:
The alt attribute does not represent advisory information. User agents must
not present the contents of the alt attribute in the same way as content
of the title attribute.
[snip]
In situations where alt it not
Hi Ben
I was not talking about being displayed as a tooltip .
I was referring to the display as a replacement for an image when images are
disabled. There is no indication that the text is advisory information rather
than a text alternative. So in this case alt is being displayed in the same
Steve Faulkner on Tue, 31 Jul 2012 13:03:02 +0100, wrote,
in reply to Philip Jägenstedt:
but I'm confused -- is falling back to title a Good Thing that people want
browsers to implement, or is it just a quirk that some legacy browser had?
Given that there is a semantic distinction in the spec
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 3:39 PM, Steve Faulkner
faulkner.st...@gmail.com wrote:
I was not talking about being displayed as a tooltip .
I was referring to the display as a replacement for an image when images are
disabled. There is no indication that the text is advisory information rather
Hi Leif,
There is a distinction between what browsers should do to provide fallback
and what should be promoted in the spec as a desired authoring pattern.
browsers support many non conforming markup patterns.
Because webkit browsers display title attribute content if alt attribute is
not
17 matches
Mail list logo
