[whatwg] Interpretation of video poster attribute

2008-06-03 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
(thereby making the poster useless)? In short, what is the intended use of poster? -- Philip Jägenstedt

Re: [whatwg] Interpretation of video poster attribute

2008-06-09 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
the video. Philip On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 10:00 -0500, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 7:36 AM, Philip Jägenstedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! I'm a bit puzzled about how to interpret the poster attribute on HTMLVideoElement

[whatwg] HTMLMediaElement buffered/bufferedBytes

2008-06-10 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
been downloaded, but if this is needed I might suggest the attributes downloaded/downloadedBytes instead. The usefulness of the buffered attribute (in my current interpretation) is not obvious to me at all, I would appreciate some use cases if possible. -- Philip Jägenstedt Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] Change request: rules for pixel ratio

2008-06-11 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
and might make life easier for those who want this information for low-level control of the video element size via the DOM. -- Philip Jägenstedt Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] Interpretation of video poster attribute

2008-06-12 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
wouldn't actually work anyway) is a natural interpretation of poster frame. :-) As long as it's mentioned somewhere there can be no misunderstanding. -- Philip Jägenstedt Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] Change request: rules for pixel ratio

2008-06-12 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.' -- Philip Jägenstedt Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] Interpretation of video poster attribute

2008-06-12 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
to provide sane defaults for authors who trust the browser to do the right things in absence of width/height. Safari already uses the intrinsic dimensions of the poster image and then resizes to the intrinsic dimensions of the video, which is exactly the behavior we want to implement. -- Philip

[whatwg] video background color (Was: Interpretation of video poster attribute)

2008-06-13 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
that do not contain the video represent nothing. What does this mean? Black is customary for video, but leaving the region transparent (thus falling back to css background color) is another option. Which is better? -- Philip Jägenstedt Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] Javascript API to query supported codecs for video and audio

2008-06-18 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
and be done with it, but since this is not the case we need tools to make the best out of video, not knowing what the browser supports and just hoping that it could work is not an option. j -- Philip Jägenstedt Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] Javascript API to query supported codecs for video and audio

2008-06-18 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
? Philip On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 17:34 +0700, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: It seems to me that it's a good idea to wait with this until we know more about what will happen with baseline codecs etc. Implementation-wise it might be less than trivial to return an exhaustive list of all supported mime

Re: [whatwg] video background color (Was: Interpretation of video poster attribute)

2008-06-19 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.' -- Philip Jägenstedt Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] Consider changing the default volume for audio and video to be 1.0 instead of 0.5

2008-06-26 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
the browser to have similar volume levels to other applications on the system, and will respect the system volume. Thanks, Adele -- Philip Jägenstedt Opera Software

[whatwg] HTMLMediaElement load and autoplay

2008-07-02 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
to CAN_PLAY as fast as possible without fake-stalling. Any ideas on this? This might be nit-picking, but consistency across browsers would be nice if possible. -- Philip Jägenstedt Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] HTMLMediaElement load and autoplay

2008-07-02 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.' -- Philip Jägenstedt Opera Software

[whatwg] HTMLMediaElement: more issues and ambiguities

2008-07-03 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
that the default volume be 1.0. OK, that's all folks! -- Philip Jägenstedt Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] HTMLMediaElement: more issues and ambiguities

2008-07-09 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
Thanks for addressing all of my questions, there is only one issue below which I think deserves a second round. On Wed, 2008-07-09 at 00:05 +, Ian Hickson wrote: On Thu, 3 Jul 2008, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/video.html#adjusted

Re: [whatwg] re-thinking cue ranges

2008-07-12 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
= / to explicitly defeat the retrieval of annotations. (Such an annotations href might also help with associating metadata with media resources, particularly when the same metadata should be associated with a set of sources that differ in bitrate, codec, etc.). -- Philip Jägenstedt Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] re-thinking cue ranges

2008-07-22 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
object. Does the identifier argument address this sufficiently? Yes, it makes sense and should eliminate the need for closures in most cases. -- Philip Jägenstedt Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] HTMLMediaElement: more issues and ambiguities

2008-07-22 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
more sense now. I can definitely still change the terminology if you think it is still confusing. Thanks, that looks much better. -- Philip Jägenstedt Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] re-thinking cue ranges

2008-07-22 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
. Indeed, I expect that some would even abuse the id parameter to pass the caption text directly, although that isn't very elegant. -- Philip Jägenstedt Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] VIDEO tag height/width best fit

2008-08-04 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
so that other will fit in and maintain aspect ratio. May be we can also have a tile option This problem also exist for img tag. -- Philip Jägenstedt Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] Video : Slow motion, fast forward effects

2008-08-07 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
. Streaming mostly forces a playback speed of +1x in all cases. Maik -- Philip Jägenstedt Opera Software

[whatwg] video implicitly invoke the load() method

2008-08-18 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
exactly how to change the spec, but if we agree that this needs fixing we can come back to that. -- Philip Jägenstedt Opera Software

[whatwg] HTMLMediaElement: pixelratio, unsigned int, timeupdate

2008-11-02 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
Sickling that this event isn't particularly useful and would rather see it removed from the spec. -- Philip Jägenstedt Opera Software

[whatwg] HTMLMediaElement: static TimeRanges/ByteRanges, potentially playing definition

2008-11-06 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
. In other words, remove the readyState and paused for user interaction stuff (surely a media element could potentially keep playing after such user interaction, otherwise there would be no need to ask). (Also, I'm still wondering about the issues in my previous mail.) -- Philip Jägenstedt Opera

Re: [whatwg] HTMLMediaElement: static TimeRanges/ByteRanges

2008-11-06 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Thu, 2008-11-06 at 16:55 -0500, Jim Jewett wrote: Philip Jägenstedt wrote: http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/video.html#dom-media-buffered The buffered attribute must return a static normalized TimeRanges object ... what does static mean in this context

Re: [whatwg] Same-origin checking for media elements

2008-11-12 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
in the total attribute (however that should be encoded). (We have to be able to return unknown since there can be situations, e.g. live streams, where we'll never know the total size.) -- Philip Jägenstedt Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] Scripted querying of video capabilities

2008-11-13 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
. Regards, Maciej -- Philip Jägenstedt Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] Reworking the media load() algorithm so that it tries more than one video

2008-11-14 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
with loading resources! Thanks. :-) Cheers, -- Philip Jägenstedt Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] Can AUDIO/VIDEO element have a balance attribute

2008-11-16 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
the zooming effect on google map. -- Philip Jägenstedt Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] video tag: pixel aspect ratio

2008-11-17 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
emergency-overrides of particular videos whose sources they don't control. PK -- Philip Jägenstedt Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] video tag: pixel aspect ratio

2008-11-18 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
for it (although it's likely that such cropping is performed by the video decoder and not a subsequent crop filter so it might not be so trivial to fix in all media frameworks). [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG/coords.html#PreserveAspectRatioAttribute -- Philip Jägenstedt Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] media elements: Relative seeking

2008-11-25 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
that once this is corrected a reasonable-enough (for a status bar position slider) estimate may actually be possible, meaning things could just stay the way they are. Maik -- Philip Jägenstedt Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] video tag: pixel aspect ratio

2008-12-01 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
images and moving images? -- Philip Jägenstedt Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] video tag: pixel aspect ratio

2008-12-01 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Mon, 2008-12-01 at 18:19 +0100, Lachlan Hunt wrote: Philip Jägenstedt wrote: On Mon, 2008-12-01 at 12:39 +, Ian Hickson wrote: We definitely don't want to stretch the video. One of the important use cases if having a video playback area and then playing videos with different

Re: [whatwg] video tag: pixel aspect ratio

2008-12-01 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
, unless someone can give an example? -- Philip Jägenstedt Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] Media elements delaying the load event.

2008-12-18 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
something (if it's going to). Surely the load event should not be sent until the whole resource is loaded, otherwise it would clash rather severely with how progress events are defined. Is there some problem with holding the load event until the time when the resource is actually loaded? -- Philip

Re: [whatwg] Adding and removing media source elements

2009-02-03 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
() unconditionally. -- Philip Jägenstedt Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] Video playback quality metric

2009-02-10 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
? -- Philip Jägenstedt Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] video and acceleration

2009-03-30 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
agents it might be an overlay attribute, just like SVG has: http://www.w3.org/TR/SVGTiny12/multimedia.html#compositingBehaviorAttribute I'm not convinced such an attribute would help, just pointing it out here... -- Philip Jägenstedt Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] Start position of media resources

2009-04-07 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
do this perhaps? I suppose that an UA could parse the media fragment in the URL and adjust the timeline accordingly, but I'm not sure if it's a great idea... -- Philip Jägenstedt Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] Start position of media resources

2009-04-07 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Tue, 07 Apr 2009 10:26:15 +0200, Silvia Pfeiffer silviapfeiff...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.com wrote: On Tue, 07 Apr 2009 06:11:51 +0200, Chris Double chris.dou...@double.co.nz wrote: On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 3:40 AM, Eric Carlson

Re: [whatwg] single step v.play();

2009-04-20 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
, so adding a parameter to load/play would only mean that there are several ways to do the same thing. I'm not sure replacing an already playing media resource is an important enough use case to make such a change to an already complex spec. -- Philip Jägenstedt Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] single step v.play();

2009-04-20 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Mon, 20 Apr 2009 10:14:14 +0200, Biju bijumaill...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.com wrote: Since static markup uses the src attribute it needs to be supported via the DOM, so adding a parameter to load/play would only mean

Re: [whatwg] Frame advance feature for a paused VIDEO

2009-05-25 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
to that frame. As long as you know the frame rate you're good to go. All in theory of course, implementations may not be all the way there yet. -- Philip Jägenstedt Core Developer Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] Frame advance feature for a paused VIDEO

2009-05-26 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
from the time since the previous frame. Rob Indeed, I don't suggest adding an API for exposing the frame rate, I'm just saying that if you know the frame rate by some external means then you can just set currentTime. -- Philip Jägenstedt Core Developer Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] Codecs for audio and video

2009-07-01 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
to see it as the baseline for HTML5, but in the absense of that hope that the web community will push it hard enough so that it becomes the de-facto standard. -- Philip Jägenstedt Core Developer Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] Codecs for audio and video

2009-07-02 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:01:02 +0200, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.com wrote: On Wed, 01 Jul 2009 18:29:17 +0200, Peter Kasting pkast...@google.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:41 AM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@opera.com wrote: On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:39:05 +0200, Peter Kasting pkast

Re: [whatwg] Codecs for audio and video

2009-07-09 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
to be worked out. I'd enthusiastically support such an interface in Java, Flash and .Net/Active X plugins. For the legacy/IE crowd. -Charles -- Philip Jägenstedt Core Developer Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] Serving up Theora video in the real world

2009-07-11 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
disagree of course, because having canPlayType(video/ogg) mean anything else than can I demux Ogg streams is pointless. Quoting myself from http://lists.whatwg.org/htdig.cgi/whatwg-whatwg.org/2008-November/017212.html (replies from Ian) On Thu, 13 Nov 2008, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: When

Re: [whatwg] Serving up Theora video in the real world

2009-07-11 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
APIs (or live with them for 100 years). -- Philip Jägenstedt Core Developer Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] Serving up Theora video in the real world

2009-07-11 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Sat, 11 Jul 2009 13:15:14 +0200, Robert O'Callahan rob...@ocallahan.org wrote: On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 9:38 PM, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.comwrote: Well I disagree of course, because having canPlayType(video/ogg) mean anything else than can I demux Ogg streams is pointless. So

Re: [whatwg] Serving up Theora video in the real world

2009-07-11 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Sat, 11 Jul 2009 14:38:02 +0200, Robert O'Callahan rob...@ocallahan.org wrote: On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 11:51 PM, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.comwrote: Yes, I'm saying that when codecs are provided true means probably and otherwise it means maybe, because the distinction

Re: [whatwg] slideml

2009-07-11 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
. It will be difficult to implement the .odp (open standard presentation) for web !! Perhaps you should have a look at http://www.opera.com/browser/tutorials/operashow/ Everything you need is already in HTML/CSS, it's just a question of browser support. -- Philip Jägenstedt Core Developer Opera

Re: [whatwg] Serving up Theora video in the real world

2009-07-11 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Sat, 11 Jul 2009 21:15:47 +0200, Maciej Stachowiak m...@apple.com wrote: On Jul 11, 2009, at 7:56 AM, Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ) wrote: 2009/7/11 Robert O'Callahan rob...@ocallahan.org On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 9:38 PM, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.com wrote: Well I disagree of course

Re: [whatwg] Serving up Theora video in the real world

2009-07-13 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 00:00:20 +0200, Robert O'Callahan rob...@ocallahan.org wrote: On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.comwrote: Not that I except this discussion to go anywhere, but out of curiosity I checked how Firefox/Safari/Chrome actually implement

Re: [whatwg] HTML 5 video tag questions

2009-07-13 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
to make the resource selection algorithm deal with fallback in a sane way when scripts are disabled, but this is too much of a corner case to justify the complexity in my opinion. -- Philip Jägenstedt Core Developer Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] HTML 5 video tag questions

2009-07-13 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 20:38:11 +0200, Tab Atkins Jr. jackalm...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Boris Zbarskybzbar...@mit.edu wrote: Philip Jägenstedt wrote: It would have to be part of the resource selection algorithm. Since that waits for new source elements

Re: [whatwg] HTML 5 video tag questions

2009-07-13 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
...@mit.edu wrote: Philip Jägenstedt wrote: It would have to be part of the resource selection algorithm. Since that waits for new source elements indefinitely, when exactly would you decide to switch to fallback content? Bad solutions include special-casing static markup and/or (falsely

Re: [whatwg] HTML 5 video tag questions

2009-07-14 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
nothing in the resource selection algorithm that's special-cased for static markup by hooking into the parser, which would be required to make it work (but then only for static markup). Putting @fallback on the video element just won't work. -- Philip Jägenstedt Core Developer Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] HTML 5 video tag questions

2009-07-14 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
lag -- source !-- network lag -- img src=foo onload=alert('how many times will you see this message?') /video -- Philip Jägenstedt Core Developer Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] HTML 5 video tag questions

2009-07-14 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 11:46:08 +0200, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote: Philip Jägenstedt wrote: Anything that can cause the element to switch back and forth between displaying fallback and video is a no-go, that would cause a race condition for if plugins/images in the fallback content

[whatwg] Error handling for MIME type parsing (canPlayType)

2009-07-14 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
parsing or the like? It wouldn't be fun to get cross-browser bugs as soon as someone forgets a semicolon... -- Philip Jägenstedt Core Developer Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] Thoughts on video accessibility

2009-07-16 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
). Incidentally, I'd be interested in such information about H.264. I wonder how easy it will be for example with QuickTime or mp4 to encapsulate srt on-the-fly inside a browser. Regards, Silvia. -- Philip Jägenstedt Core Developer Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] Vorbis in audio

2009-07-17 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 13:26:18 +0200, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: Let's put it another way. Of the browser vendors here: * who supports Vorbis as a baseline codec for audio? Opera would support Vorbis as an audio baseline. -- Philip Jägenstedt Core Developer Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] autobuffer on new Audio objects

2009-07-20 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
and doesn't need to be obeyed where it doesn't make sense (in fact can't be obeyed because the disk cache is too small). -- Philip Jägenstedt Core Developer Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] Audio synthesis

2009-07-22 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
implementation will simply have to do its best. -- Philip Jägenstedt Core Developer Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] Progress on video accessibility

2009-07-31 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
-front. Draw a line and stick to it. -- Philip Jägenstedt Core Developer Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] Alt attribute for video and audio

2009-08-12 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
like display a box with a direct download link, suggestion to install a specific codec, etc. If nothing at all is required of user agents for the alt attribute, then I have no opinion (but then I expect no one would use it either). -- Philip Jägenstedt Core Developer Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] Alt attribute for video and audio

2009-08-12 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
me if I'm wrong. -- Philip Jägenstedt Core Developer Opera Software

[whatwg] Remove addCueRange/removeCueRanges

2009-08-13 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
browser vendors and while I cannot speak for them here, I hope those that agree will chime in if necessary. -- Philip Jägenstedt Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] Remove addCueRange/removeCueRanges

2009-08-13 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
API:s and I trust this could fit into that scope. View source at http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/video.html#video and search for v2 and you'll find some of these ideas. -- Philip Jägenstedt Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] Remove addCueRange/removeCueRanges

2009-08-14 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
://wiki.whatwg.org/ ? -- Philip Jägenstedt Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] Remove addCueRange/removeCueRanges

2009-08-14 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
, addCueRange/removeCueRanges or a timed text API. Whatever the spec says before that is likely to be wrong. -- Philip Jägenstedt Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] Remove addCueRange/removeCueRanges

2009-08-14 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
they work with the DOM interface or media fragments are more than likely implementation bugs. -- Philip Jägenstedt Opera Software

[whatwg] Microdata DOM API

2009-08-20 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
[7] http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/microdata.html#concept-item-corresponding -- Philip Jägenstedt Doing Microdata just for fun, not for Opera Software.

[whatwg] createImageData should take unsigned long

2009-08-24 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
(not defined). Unless there's a compelling reason to allow something like (0.1, 0.1) I suggest changing the type and leaving the float-unsigned conversion to WebIDL. -- Philip Jägenstedt Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] Microdata

2009-08-24 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
. for compositing items (like now) 2. as shorthand on the top-level item (my suggestion) 3. disallow I'd primarily like for 1 and 2 to be tested, but 3 is a real option too. [1] http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/whatwg/20090824#l-375 -- Philip Jägenstedt Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] Microdata

2009-08-25 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 00:29:06 +0200, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Mon, 24 Aug 2009, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: I've found two related things that are a bit problematic. First, because itemprops are only associated with ancestor item elements or via the subject attribute, it's always

Re: [whatwg] Microdata

2009-08-25 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 09:43:58 +0200, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.com wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 00:29:06 +0200, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Mon, 24 Aug 2009, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: I've found two related things that are a bit problematic. First, because itemprops are only

Re: [whatwg] createImageData should take unsigned long

2009-08-31 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 08:08:05 +0200, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Mon, 24 Aug 2009, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: As far as I can see there's no good reason why createImageData should take a float as input rather than unsigned long. Having it as float creates the odd situation where (0.1

Re: [whatwg] createImageData should take unsigned long

2009-09-03 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
). -- Philip Jägenstedt Core Developer Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] createImageData should take unsigned long

2009-09-04 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
? In my tests getImageData(0,0,w,h) simply returns a wxh ImageData object. It would be interesting to enable this non-1:1 backing store to see if sites break or not. -- Philip Jägenstedt Core Developer Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] cloneNode and HTML elements

2009-09-10 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
be defined, but think the best behavior would be to just clone the content attributes. In other words, you'd get a media element in state NETWORK_EMPTY/HAVE_NOTHING which would start resource selection when you insert it into a document. -- Philip Jägenstedt Core Developer Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] cloneNode and HTML elements

2009-09-10 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
it into the same state as the first must also be taken into account. A true clone may simply not be possible in all implementations. -- Philip Jägenstedt Core Developer Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] Restarting the media element resource fetch algorithm after load event

2009-10-08 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
. Aesthetically, however, I think it would be strange to not have the load event. -- Philip Jägenstedt Core Developer Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] Restarting the media element resource fetch algorithm after load event

2009-10-08 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 19:42:14 +0200, Eric Carlson eric.carl...@apple.com wrote: On Oct 8, 2009, at 5:32 AM, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 12:10:01 +0200, Robert O'Callahan rob...@ocallahan.org wrote: Another issue is that it's not completely clear to me what is meant

Re: [whatwg] Restarting the media element resource fetch algorithm after load event

2009-10-09 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 23:08:32 +0200, Robert O'Callahan rob...@ocallahan.org wrote: On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 1:32 AM, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.com wrote: The spec notes that Some resources, e.g. streaming Web radio, can never reach the NETWORK_LOADED state. In my understanding, you

Re: [whatwg] Restarting the media element resource fetch algorithm after load event

2009-10-09 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
for altering the spec. Rob -- Philip Jägenstedt Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] Restarting the media element resource fetch algorithm after load event

2009-10-09 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 22:53:45 +0200, Robert O'Callahan rob...@ocallahan.org wrote: On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:31 AM, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.com wrote: I wouldn't be particularly opposed to dropping the load event, unless there's a use case for the guarantee that the resource won't

Re: [whatwg] Restarting the media element resource fetch algorithm after load event

2009-10-14 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:08:19 +0200, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Fri, 9 Oct 2009, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: Since we're going to contradict the progress events spec anyway, I would suggest dropping all 'loadend' events. They're just not very useful. I've left it in the other cases

Re: [whatwg] Restarting the media element resource fetch algorithm after load event

2009-10-14 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:58:17 +0200, Anne van Kesteren ann...@opera.com wrote: On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:51:09 +0200, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.com wrote: We added loadend just to comply with Progress Events. Now that we fire simple events instead, please drop loadend again as it serves

Re: [whatwg] Microdata feedback

2009-10-15 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 13:53:46 +0200, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Fri, 21 Aug 2009, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: Shouldn't namedItem [6] be namedItems? Code like .namedItem().item(0) would be quite confusing. [6] http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage

Re: [whatwg] What is the purpose of timeupdate?

2009-11-06 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
if a browser is ever forced to drop a frame, which is going to happen on slower machines. In balance this may or may not be a risk worth taking. -- Philip Jägenstedt Core Developer Opera Software

[whatwg] video abort and error should bubble for simplicity

2009-11-11 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
. I'll note that video abort/error events in Firefox already seems to bubble while they apparently don't in Safari. We'd like to align with Firefox and have the spec changed. -- Philip Jägenstedt Opera Software

[whatwg] Microdata DOM API issues

2009-11-11 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
the algorithm to figure it out. I'm sure there will be more issues, but that's it for now. -- Philip Jägenstedt

Re: [whatwg] Microdata DOM API issues

2009-11-13 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:23:54 +0100, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.com wrote: Why are the algorithms for extracting RDF gone? All that's left is the book example with the equivalent Turtle, but it would be nice if it were actually defined how to extract RDF. The same for the JSON stuff

Re: [whatwg] Microdata DOM API issues

2009-11-13 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 19:27:39 +0100, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.com wrote: On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:23:54 +0100, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.com wrote: Why are the algorithms for extracting RDF gone? All that's left is the book example with the equivalent Turtle, but it would

Re: [whatwg] Microdata DOM API issues

2009-11-14 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 00:34:12 +0100, Tab Atkins Jr. jackalm...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.com wrote: The itemref mechanism allows creating arbitrary graphs of items, rather than the tree of items that is the intended microdata model

[whatwg] time parsing and rendering

2009-11-16 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
by simply putting the date/time in the content instead of in the attribute. As a bonus, that would degrade gracefully. Unless I'm missing something, I suggest dropping the special rendering requirements for time completely. -- Philip Jägenstedt Opera Software

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