On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 11:07 AM, Oliver Keyes oke...@wikimedia.org wrote:
This is not a conversation for the -en list, this is a conversation
for the lawyers and/or wikimedia-l. Individual projects should not be
messing with licensing, wherever possible; it creates a highly
confusing and
Filipus,
You failed to link to your account or your block log. You may not realize
that most editors of the English Wikipedia edit quietly for many years
without even a single block, so accruing 5 blocks in any period of time is
extraordinary. I'm sure I won't be alone in remaining skeptical of
Clearly high-tech moderation in play here :P
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 10:14 PM, Akhil Mulgaonker liberal...@gmail.comwrote:
you are all idiots and little bitches fucking bastards. nazis
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 7:41 PM, Matt m...@pagan.io wrote:
On Nov 12, 2013 10:07 PM, Matt matt at
Hi Tony,
I should have informed you of the post, and I apologize for not doing so.
But on the rest, I disagree. I think my post was more even-handed than your
News and notes bit. I didn't speak to you first or afford you the
opportunity to respond, but I didn't quote you misleadingly. You haven't
There's a heated debate in the comment section of the Signpost's latest
News and notes. Tony1 wrote a takedown of the English Wikivoyage in
pretty inflammatory language, but as a news story rather than as part of
the Signpost's foray into opinion.
Not surprisingly, the Wikivoyage folks have made
Hi Kathleen,
If you don't mind, please maintain the threading of the posts. Each
time you change the subject line it creates a new thread, which makes
it harder for people to follow the conversation (both in e-mail, and
in threaded view via gmane etc.).
~Nathan
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 9:20 AM
It's a body with no head, and absent leadership and a mandate you're
never going to achieve a uniform behavioral standard.
Meanwhile, it appears you failed to disclose your own history with at
least one of the users whose behavior you have called out.
I don't think what you're seeing is anything particularly peculiar to
en.wp - I've encountered rude or socially awkward people from all
projects. Since the English Wikipedia has by far the most users of any
single project, it only follows that its share of difficult people
works out to a larger
The page isn't protected from editing and it doesn't appear that it ever was.
On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 1:18 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
On 15 April 2013 16:51, Latham, Brecke brecke.lat...@wilmerhale.com wrote:
I am looking for a Wiki representative to assist in a change that
You're an idiot, and you're damaging the project. It's not about
copyright, or understanding it. What I'll do is to keep swearing at
you, and I'll be uploading tons of files onto en.WP, not Commons. That
will just disadvantage other users, and will cause Commons admins more
work eventually in
That job ad is so awesome I had to save it for posterity. Work as a
programmer slash executive assistant, for free! Be available 24 hours a day
at a moments notice! Weekends off? Forget it! Mediocre candidates need not
apply! Work for the *gasp* co-founder of Wikipedia! Solid, solid gold.
Anyone else using Chrome notice that the interface looks very 90s right
now? Looks fine in Firefox, wonder if its related to something arcane in
the banners?
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Probably [[List of 100 most valuable companies]], [[Stock index movements
last 100 years]] and [[Treatments to reverse aging]].
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 2:09 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
Some equivalent of random article 100 times fast. But what if Wikipedia
100 years from now is delivered via wireless neural network, in the form of
direct memory transfer? Then maybe you would need more than that 10 minute
period just to figure out how to work the damn thing.
On Tue, Feb 12,
You might get better results subscribing to wikitech-l!
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 5:57 PM, bpabbott bpabb...@mac.com wrote:
I was able to resolve my problem by setting up my wiki site as root. This
eliminated the ~bpabbott from the wgScriptPath.
$wgScriptPath = /mediawiki;
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That comment sounds like it was written by Peter Damian. Not everyone,
even Wikipedians, recognize or keep in mind the fact that there is a
subversive principle (or really, many) underlying the Wikipedia model.
It intentionally does not offer deference to editors with credentials
in the fields
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Bob the Wikipedian
bobthewikiped...@gmail.com wrote:
I can't imagine a site more accessible and better organized than Wikipedia
for someone seeking porn. They're quite correct.
Bob
Really? Wikipedia is the best porn site you can imagine? Welcome to
the
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Bob the Wikipedian
bobthewikiped...@gmail.com wrote:
Re-read what I wrote. I didn't say best. Having never browsed around
specifically for porn, and Wikipedia having been the only site that's put
porn in my face without my asking for it, on top of the fact
You just need to stop changing the subject line of your e-mail.
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On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 8:16 AM, Martin Møller Skarbiniks Pedersen
traxpla...@gmail.com wrote:
This guy ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Andrew_Green
Years earlier, Green and his wife, Susan, served as teachers in Kenya with
WorldTeach Project, a development organization at Harvard
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Gwern Branwen gwe...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 6:19 AM, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com
wrote:
This assumes that page views correspond to people reading the pages. I
suspect that a lot of people viewing a page just scan briefly for what
Looks like the talk page hasn't had any posts in years, and almost none of
any substance. Could probably just change it and move on.
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Ken Arromdee arrom...@rahul.net wrote:
http://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=11381.30
The situation:
1) Wikipedia
It was reported in the NY Times that the campaign manager has a habit of
whitewashing the article on Callista Gingrich.
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 3:58 AM, Tony Sidaway tonysida...@gmail.com wrote:
Some sources on my Wikipedia search are showing reports that prospective US
Presidential candidate
are volunteers to set up a
Wikipedia:CotW and get it rolling, and we can start to make a real
difference.
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are no longer insulated from alienating
contributors who object to (or argue fruitlessly for) specific
positions.
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On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 10:12 PM, Gwern Branwen gwe...@gmail.com wrote:
https://www.technologyreview.com/blog/arxiv/27437/ discussing
http://arxiv.org/abs/1112.3670 Echoes of power: Language effects and
power differences in social interaction, abstract:
Understanding social interaction
and their spelling, dates and
locations of birth, etc. etc.).
As for Encyclopedia Britannica... It, like Wikipedia, is a tertiary
reference work. Almost any other reference is preferable.
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On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 2:19 PM, The Cunctator cuncta...@gmail.com wrote:
Also, you can't FOIA birth certificates.
That's not true as a blanket statement. Conventionally FOIA refers to
the federal open records law, but there are others (under many names,
including FOIA) at the state level in
; they're saying there is too much, that it's too difficult
for the average person, and that we hallow bureaucracy and its mastery
above more important considerations.
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On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 10:09 PM, Carl (CBM) cbm.wikipe...@gmail.com wrote:
ng that's probably misinformation but which has
been multiply repeated.
Well, no. Common sense here is that she changed her name and, in the
interests of keeping a consistent public image, has no interest in
promoting
There's sort of two components to this problem. There's the human
behavior component, which is a super tough nut to crack. And then
there is the institutional component; among the most common complaints
about Wikipedia are its bureaucracy and the complexity of
contributing. Solving the
and I'll do it myself).
Hope that helps.
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Presumably Michala didn't realize it was a mailing list; any replies
should at least cc her, since she probably is not a subscriber.
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to hijack our content to suit his own
needs.
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On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Ken Arromdee arrom...@rahul.net wrote:
On Mon, 28 Mar 2011, Victor Vasiliev wrote:
A personal note from the subject needs to be added, and accepted, as
reference. It is by most authors and editors, for appropriate matters.
Where do you suggest to store it?
and tsunami' and 'tsunami' in article titles
based on the circumstances each describe.
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I especially liked this part:
It's a common story in the human species. First, we want to achieve a
goal. Second, we discover that we are all different[2] and that we
need some rules to organize our work. Third, we make the rules really
complicated to fit every corner case. Fourth, we completely
, the rules are bad, or the whole idea
is bad - many prominent, longtime 'pedians would argue all three are
true.
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http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2011-01/20/wikipedia-spanish-fork?page=1
Interesting. This article could be titled Spanish Fork: In which
Edgar Enyedy made Wikipedia what it is today. Who knew his unilateral
decision to take things out of context and proportion was the crucial
determining
')
advice on a website I was thinking of starting. It was the first I had
heard of Jimbo's idea of an open content encyclopedia, and I was delighted
to take the job.
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. And in any case, do we want to get into the
habit of asking content reusers to contribute to the WMF financially?
The whole object is to make freely reusable content available, isn't
it?
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Seriously, Fred...
He cites WIKIPEDIA:NOT#DEMOCRACY and the use of American football
instead of just football as examples of liberal bias. Not much
substance to this bitter complaint in my humble opinion.
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I had no idea that theories about gravity and relativity were the
result of a liberal conspiracy, but quite a few of those Examples of
liberal bias discuss Wikipedia's failure to promote criticism of both
principles.
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On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:14 PM, crock spot crocks...@gmail.com wrote:
Can you cite a source for that Nathan? I'd like to read about that.
Don't be surprised if this whole thing turns out to be a hoax perpetrated
by
Limbaugh himself, and bites Wikipedia in the ass. This bears a striking
Does that count, since its an article about Wikipedia?
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down proposals aimed at the
opposite.
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Continuing media coverage from yesterday, by the New York Times:
http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/08/23/readers-discuss-wikipedia-editing-course-that-aims-for-balanced-and-zionist-entries/?ref=world
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-jerk reactions, whether its OMG DELETE! or
piss off with your censorship. The FBI Seal / Badge issue is a
pretty good example of why we actually need Mike's opinion to limit
the risk posed by the overly cautious or the overly incautious.
Nathan
look like.
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On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote:
From the FBI media gallery: http://www.fbi.gov/multimedia/photos.htm
I assume {{PD-USGov-FBI}} applies here.
-User:Avicennasis
Explicit permission is given:
FBI Photos
High Resolution Photographs
These materials
This blog post[1], from the music composer Jason Robert Brown,
discusses the morality and legality of copyright in the context of
sheet music. It's based around an exchange with a teenager that
evolves into a pretty interesting debate. It mentions Wikipedia, and
links to other discussions that
Wikipedia's reliability as a source for key
information should have that as a caveat.
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to the conventional text
search page. I'm not sure changing the default from Go! to text
search is the answer, though - and adding another button would be
confusing. Maybe if the Go page had a Not the result you wanted?
Click here to search by text prompt at the top?
Nathan
unreliable sources. If we find that a
traditionally reliable source of facts has become chronically
unreliable, then it should face the same scrutiny as blogs or personal
websites prior to being cited.
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?) are representative or anomalous.
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the expectations are for the extension's
documentation, and what sort of delay we can expect between the coming
development end point and live access on en.wp? Does the WMF plan to
follow the trial roll out described on community pages there, or
something else?
Nathan
is an elegant, ideal pronunciation guide - but
very few readers can make sense of it, so using it (and demanding
uniformity in its use) is largely pointless.
Nathan
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of these guides. In your quick Google search, did you find anything to
contradict that?
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of key into concept (but
only for the 'l33t' few) more important?
As quiddity notes, and most everyone is probably already aware, this
is an old argument. For anyone who hasn't heard it before, it should
now be clear that Steve's demand for uniformity doesn't have universal
support.
Nathan
hobbyists, that influences the outcome. If Lindsey
went back to them and let them know that the articles had been written
or comprehensively reviewed by recognized experts, would that alter
the results?
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Interesting; it says that of 22 articles reviewed, 12 were found to
not meet even Wikipedia's criteria for featured articles. The abstract
advises scholars not to naively believe [Wikipedia's] assertions of
quality.
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On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote:
Interesting; it says that of 22 articles reviewed, 12 were found to
not meet even Wikipedia's criteria for featured articles. The abstract
advises scholars not to naively believe [Wikipedia's] assertions of
quality.
Sorry
to this article was this past April
8th. Given the continuous involvement of the primary author, the
problem here may reflect evolving standards of quality more than
maintenance.
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encyclopedia is deeply flawed, but it has some design
elements we could really learn from -- and even its initial failure
has lessons for people interested in the wide dissemination of
knowledge.
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, and a pickup in the spring - and March 10
comes in considerably ahead of March 09.
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) by demanding longer tenure at RfA?
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are important as well in comparing the two
- proximity to large English editing populations, severity, news
coverage, etc. I do wish we were more consistent with best practices
when it comes to protection, though.
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On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 7:11 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote:
DGG, IRC is but one of the communication means being utilized. Further, this
is a cross-project, Foundation-led task group.
Perhaps you might wish to review the summary of the preliminary work group,
and read the transcripts
The new arbitration case is an utterly predictable outgrowth of the
BLP mass deletions and their endorsement by the arbitration committee.
The committee didn't see it coming, apparently, which means the
candidate field in the last election was far worse than we thought.
Nathan
problems, even on BLPs. Should all articles tagged with a POV
template, a fact tag, or other 'problem templates' be deleted after a
certain period of time? Clearly there would be too many of them for
anyone to actually fix all of them in a reasonable period of time, say
a week?
Nathan
in digitally produced/edited media formats.
Nathan
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On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 3:52 AM, Charles Matthews
charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com wrote:
Mmmm, no. William's fuse is shorter than ideal. Obvious enough to many
people, and over the years there has been much provocation over at the
climate change articles. Now what was that word they use on the
Featured Picture is an image of lifeboats rescuing
sailors from a ship damaged in the attack), but that seems like a
strange rule to me.
Nathan
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On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 7:14 PM, Jim Redmond j...@scrubnugget.com wrote:
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 17:05, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote:
...in 1941, the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor, bringing the U.S. into
World War II. Not that you'd know that from the On this day section
of the main page. I
information
that relates to the child and that the father (or husband) is not a
party to the case. I'm sure someone on Wikipedia Review will do the
relevant digging and publish the whole story in short order.
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discussions to occur on a talkpage somewhere.
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was wrong.
Are you just looking to create somewhere where you'll finally be right?
I think that was absolutely uncalled for - you should apologize to
Jake for your comments.
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On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 12:52 PM, Bod Notbod bodnot...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote:
I think that was absolutely uncalled for - you should apologize to
Jake for your comments.
I'll happily apologise. But what was wrong in my assessment
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
Strangely, it's even turning up in article space now:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avocats_Sans_Frontières
It just amused me.
Removed now, along with most of the article (which was a copyright violation).
Nathan
was so condescending) - but hindsight is as perfect
as foresight is rare.
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I predict role account drama...
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On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 4:42 AM, Ray Saintonge sainto...@telus.net wrote:
George Herbert wrote:
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote:
There is a mailing list for block reviews, this isn't it. We also
don't usually get into discussing specific content issues here
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 2:00 PM, stevertigo stv...@gmail.com wrote:
Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote to Ray:
This is an amazing thing you've written. I've read your posts for
perhaps two years, but I will read all future comments in an entirely
new light.
Well, I think what Ray is doing
with specious arguments from editors of long tenure who have
become sophisticated in their misuse of dispute processes.
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that we need to start emphasizing the limits of that
care more clearly?
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when this happened before, and I argued in favor of it, I
didn't imagine it would become a regular occurrence.
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Nope, no comments shown. If you click on the See all notes for this
SearchWiki button below the results, it says no public notes have
been made for the search results for [arsenic and old lace youtube].
What's a SearchWiki?
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after the Foundation? Not necessarily legally, though I fear
that if they make an assumption this text is highlighted as high
trust, so it can be trusted, and are told that this is the meaning on
a help page, we could be liable.
Nathan
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 6:36 AM, FT2ft2.w...@gmail.com
One issue that's bugged me for awhile wrt flagged revisions is whether
we'll have a problem with people saying that [[m:The Wrong Version]]
is still flagged, and theirs hasn't yet been. Granted, if this
becomes an issue, it can be easily enough solved by flagging the
current version (and, if
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 9:19 PM, Nathan Russellwindrun...@gmail.com wrote:
I'll just say I'm a bit surprised to be hearing it from Wired first.
Pakaran
WikiTrust itself has been announced and then mentioned on this list
multiple times; in the absence of quotes in the article from Wikimedia
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 9:31 PM, Brianbrian.min...@colorado.edu wrote:
What's interesting about WikiTrust is that a trust score is computed for
each individual. I wonder if these will be made public, and if so, how they
will change the community of editors. It seems likely that they will not
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 9:34 PM, Emily Monroebluecalioc...@me.com wrote:
Or perhaps it is a reputation score - my memory is fuzzy.
Either way, I would like the score to NOT be published. I'd hate to
have the community divided over a piece of software.
Emily
There's also the possibility for
that the official app is less
useful than the unofficial alternatives.
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in the nitty
gritty or sticks to pot shots from off the field, but mailing list
participation usually falls in the latter category.
Nathan
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Emily Monroe bluecalioc...@me.com wrote:
These points do come up, the forums for dispute resolution are open
and free, and those
progress is possible.
Nathan
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and .js tools attached to my Monobook/Modern skins.
For readers and new editors, though, it should work well. I particularly
like the left-hand navbar links to featured content.
Nathan
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 1:10 AM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm trying it. It looks a lot like
Hey you're right. I suppose I forgot it was there and only noticed it again
because I was actually paying attention to the interface.
Thanks,
Nathan
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Peter Coombe
I particularly like the left-hand navbar links to featured content.
Monobook has this as well
criteria.
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