Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia as part of a social media strategy for hotels

2012-07-03 Thread Mike Dupont
So people, I would like to request that all the old non-notable articles be given to me for archiving on speedydeletion, artists, bands, websites, hotels etc, would that be possible? thanks mike On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 10:01 PM, Ken Arromdee arrom...@rahul.net wrote: On Sat, 30 Jun 2012,

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia as part of a social media strategy for hotels

2012-07-03 Thread WereSpielChequers
Mike do you realise how big a task that would be? We have stats going back to December 2004 showing millions of such deletions. We have data going back further, but some of our earliest edits are no longer available. Providing we screen out the children releasing personal details, the copyvio and

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia as part of a social media strategy for hotels

2012-07-03 Thread Mike Dupont
I am willing to do the work to prepare them, I think that I could find people to help me. please give me access, I will be responsible. mike On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 12:44 PM, WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.com wrote: Mike do you realise how big a task that would be? We have stats going

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia as part of a social media strategy for hotels

2012-07-03 Thread WereSpielChequers
Hi Mike, I can't give you access to deleted edits, only the community can do that and they are notoriously picky as to who they appoint as admins. Also it is not a practical task for one person or even a dozen persons. Why don't you start with my suggestion about articles that are now redirects?

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia as part of a social media strategy for hotels

2012-07-03 Thread Mike Dupont
How is this, can you extract the following : 1. only well formed wikisyntax. 2. only where age is given, and over 18 3. only where a {{twitter|account} is given then i will process those first, and can twitter them we can go from the responses to process them. mike On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 5:01

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia as part of a social media strategy for hotels

2012-07-02 Thread Ken Arromdee
On Sat, 30 Jun 2012, WereSpielChequers wrote: I'm not inclined to shed a tear for hotel articles, many of which are I suspect being created by spammers, but David makes an important point re cultural bias from our lack of sources in certain parts of the world. Wasn't there a probem where Jimbo

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia as part of a social media strategy for hotels

2012-07-02 Thread Carcharoth
On 7/2/12, Ken Arromdee arrom...@rahul.net wrote: On Sat, 30 Jun 2012, WereSpielChequers wrote: I'm not inclined to shed a tear for hotel articles, many of which are I suspect being created by spammers, but David makes an important point re cultural bias from our lack of sources in certain

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia as part of a social media strategy for hotels

2012-07-02 Thread Carcharoth
On 7/3/12, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com wrote: On 7/2/12, Ken Arromdee arrom...@rahul.net wrote: On Sat, 30 Jun 2012, WereSpielChequers wrote: I'm not inclined to shed a tear for hotel articles, many of which are I suspect being created by spammers, but David makes an important point

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia as part of a social media strategy for hotels

2012-06-30 Thread WereSpielChequers
I'm not inclined to shed a tear for hotel articles, many of which are I suspect being created by spammers, but David makes an important point re cultural bias from our lack of sources in certain parts of the world. My view on this is that this is one area where a little bit of money judiciously

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia as part of a social media strategy for hotels

2012-06-29 Thread David Goodman
The India related pages are typically being deleted because of the lack of references in the submitted article, and the almost total inability of editors elsewhere to find sources for this area except of a few major newspapers. It is extremely frustrating to find such an article on Proposed

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia as part of a social media strategy for hotels

2012-06-25 Thread Carcharoth
On 6/25/12, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: it is hard to collect all this information for osm, so why not have people add it to wikpedia first? Wouldn't it be more efficient to direct people to OSM and wikitravel in the first place, rather than use Wikipedia as a staging

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia as part of a social media strategy for hotels

2012-06-25 Thread Tom Morris
On 25 June 2012 12:57, Martijn Hoekstra martijnhoeks...@gmail.com wrote: What's wrong with Hi, thanks for your stuff. It didn't belong here, so we put it there for you rather than Hi, you put stuff here that didn't belong here. Bad user. Find an admin that will email your stuff for you through

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia as part of a social media strategy for hotels

2012-06-25 Thread Carcharoth
On 6/25/12, Martijn Hoekstra martijnhoeks...@gmail.com wrote: What's wrong with Hi, thanks for your stuff. It didn't belong here, so we put it there for you rather than Hi, you put stuff here that didn't belong here. Bad user. Find an admin that will email your stuff for you through a murky

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia as part of a social media strategy for hotels

2012-06-25 Thread Martijn Hoekstra
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 6:57 PM, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com wrote: On 6/25/12, Martijn Hoekstra martijnhoeks...@gmail.com wrote: What's wrong with Hi, thanks for your stuff. It didn't belong here, so we put it there for you rather than Hi, you put stuff here that didn't belong

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia as part of a social media strategy for hotels

2012-06-25 Thread Mike Dupont
Thanks Martjn, yes, that is what I am saying, people are willing to submit trivial data for the hope of becoming famous, because WP is now the number one web page, instead of deleting it, I say, lets process it. I have been studying the speedy deletion data for the past days, tuning my program,

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia as part of a social media strategy for hotels

2012-06-24 Thread David Goodman
Apparently we need to be a good deal stricter about hotel entries. Notability we can deal with--the content in them is considerably more difficult to police. On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com wrote: On 6/22/12, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia as part of a social media strategy for hotels

2012-06-24 Thread Mike Dupont
well wikitravel and openstreetmap are a good place to land those, and I guess I will collect them in the speedy deletion wiki and process them there, since i started the wiki there have been no hotels there, http://speedydeletion.wikia.com/wiki/index.php?search=hotelfulltext=Search it is hard to

[WikiEN-l] Wikipedia as part of a social media strategy for hotels

2012-06-22 Thread David Gerard
http://www.hospitalitynet.org/news/4056585.html I suspect we may have (how do I put this) an opportunity to be helpful to an influx of newbies with not-so-good articles in need of improvement. (Is there a good place on-wiki to note such endeavours? One of the VPs?) - d.