Re: [WikiEN-l] Notability for FLOSS - the public's reaction

2010-03-10 Thread Ken Arromdee
On Sun, 7 Mar 2010, David Goodman wrote: The criteria are the same as for any other source: whether it is used in publications that are acknowledged to be reputable. It is the way the outside world looks at it. You are replying to the question what rules make sense by answering the question

Re: [WikiEN-l] Notability for FLOSS - the public's reaction

2010-03-06 Thread Ken Arromdee
On Fri, 5 Mar 2010, Charles Matthews wrote: Something that has a Rush Limbaugh episode dedicated to it is probably notable in any sane sense, even if Rush Limbaugh isn't a reliable source. Sorry, what if I say that I neither know nor care about anything Rush Limbaugh does or says (which is

Re: [WikiEN-l] Notability for FLOSS - the public's reaction

2010-03-06 Thread Charles Matthews
Ken Arromdee wrote: On Fri, 5 Mar 2010, Charles Matthews wrote: Something that has a Rush Limbaugh episode dedicated to it is probably notable in any sane sense, even if Rush Limbaugh isn't a reliable source. Sorry, what if I say that I neither know nor care about anything Rush

Re: [WikiEN-l] Notability for FLOSS - the public's reaction

2010-03-05 Thread Charles Matthews
Gwern Branwen wrote: The [[dwm]] deletion discussion has caught the interest of some of the more nerdy online communities: - http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/b8s29/the_wikipedia_deletionists_are_at_it_again_this/ - http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1163884 It's interesting

Re: [WikiEN-l] Notability for FLOSS - the public's reaction

2010-03-05 Thread David Gerard
On 5 March 2010 13:25, Gwern Branwen gwe...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 5:58 AM, Charles Matthews Oh yes, and what Carcharoth said about FLOSS history needing the secondary sources: if they don't write the history, it isn't just WP coverage that suffers, but the whole

Re: [WikiEN-l] Notability for FLOSS - the public's reaction

2010-03-05 Thread Carcharoth
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 1:28 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 5 March 2010 13:25, Gwern Branwen gwe...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 5:58 AM, Charles Matthews Oh yes, and what Carcharoth said about FLOSS history needing the secondary sources: if they don't write the

Re: [WikiEN-l] Notability for FLOSS - the public's reaction

2010-03-05 Thread David Gerard
On 5 March 2010 13:30, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 1:28 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: A lot of these deletions are on the complete absence of evidence that anyone outside the project actually cares. By project you mean dwm, not Wikipedia,

Re: [WikiEN-l] Notability for FLOSS - the public's reaction

2010-03-05 Thread Ken Arromdee
On Fri, 5 Mar 2010, Charles Matthews wrote: As usual, one has to sift the arguments. Why aren't blogs included under RS? That would be because they are generally unreliable? One of the things that's bizarre about notability is that it requires reliable sources to establish notability.

Re: [WikiEN-l] Notability for FLOSS - the public's reaction

2010-03-05 Thread Charles Matthews
Ken Arromdee wrote: On Fri, 5 Mar 2010, Charles Matthews wrote: As usual, one has to sift the arguments. Why aren't blogs included under RS? That would be because they are generally unreliable? One of the things that's bizarre about notability is that it requires reliable sources

Re: [WikiEN-l] Notability for FLOSS - the public's reaction

2010-03-04 Thread Carcharoth
Hopefully someone will write a proper history of the FLOSS (free/libre/open source software) movement someday. As someone who has sometimes tried to find sources on early 20th century stuff where it seems no-one wrote a history, I certainly hope the FLOSS history doesn't end up the same way.

Re: [WikiEN-l] Notability for FLOSS - the public's reaction

2010-03-04 Thread K. Peachey
Perhaps in future we could send these to the incubator (unless their BLP or the like) instead of deleting then see if the people want to work on them? -Peachey ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing