Re: [WikiEN-l] Community ready for Pending Changes (nee Flagged Protection)?

2010-06-14 Thread Cenarium sysop
We could also implement as scheduled, but refrain from using pending changes in mainspace until we're ready. This way, reviewers could start testing in Wikipedia namespace before it's rolled out on articles. The issue of using level 2 PC-protection is not resolved yet, so we may request a

Re: [WikiEN-l] Community ready for Pending Changes (nee Flagged Protection)?

2010-06-14 Thread David Gerard
On 14 June 2010 09:12, Cenarium sysop cenarium.sy...@gmail.com wrote: We could also implement as scheduled, but refrain from using pending changes in mainspace until we're ready. This way, reviewers could start testing in Wikipedia namespace before it's rolled out on articles. The issue of

Re: [WikiEN-l] Community ready for Pending Changes (nee Flagged Protection)?

2010-06-14 Thread Cenarium sysop
The issue is not people objecting but preparation of the trial, so it's not chaos. Or you could yourself help in the preparation of the trial, so we'd go faster ? On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 10:15 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 14 June 2010 09:12, Cenarium sysop

Re: [WikiEN-l] Community ready for Pending Changes (nee Flagged Protection)?

2010-06-14 Thread William Pietri
On 06/14/2010 01:12 AM, Cenarium sysop wrote: On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 7:57 AM, Cenarium sysopcenarium.sy...@gmail.comwrote: You'll soon have your answer here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Reviewing#Proposing_a_delay_to_trial_implementation. There are many outstanding

Re: [WikiEN-l] Community ready for Pending Changes (nee Flagged Protection)?

2010-06-14 Thread Amory Meltzer
No. This may not be ideal but that is certainly worse. Damn the torpedos! ~A On Monday, June 14, 2010, William Pietri will...@scissor.com wrote: On 06/14/2010 01:12 AM, Cenarium sysop wrote: On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 7:57 AM, Cenarium sysopcenarium.sy...@gmail.comwrote: You'll soon have

[WikiEN-l] Pending Changes: first press

2010-06-14 Thread David Gerard
http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/wikipedia_to_loosen_controls_tonight.php Spotted by Nihiltres. - d. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit:

Re: [WikiEN-l] Pending Changes: first press

2010-06-14 Thread Risker
On 14 June 2010 19:22, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/wikipedia_to_loosen_controls_tonight.php Spotted by Nihiltres. groan The George Bush page is not going to be part of this trial, because there is no reasonable chance that the tiny, tiny

Re: [WikiEN-l] Pending Changes: first press

2010-06-14 Thread MuZemike
Have there been any other media outlets, blogs, etc. who see Pending Changes as a loosening of controls? I haven't; perhaps I've been hanging around with the community too much who say it will be more restrictive than before :) -MuZemike On 6/14/2010 6:39 PM, Risker wrote: On 14 June 2010

Re: [WikiEN-l] Pending Changes: first press

2010-06-14 Thread Ian Woollard
On 15/06/2010, MuZemike muzem...@gmail.com wrote: Have there been any other media outlets, blogs, etc. who see Pending Changes as a loosening of controls? I haven't; perhaps I've been hanging around with the community too much who say it will be more restrictive than before :) To be perfectly

Re: [WikiEN-l] Pending Changes: first press

2010-06-14 Thread William Pietri
On 06/14/2010 06:46 PM, Ian Woollard wrote: On 15/06/2010, MuZemikemuzem...@gmail.com wrote: Have there been any other media outlets, blogs, etc. who see Pending Changes as a loosening of controls? I haven't; perhaps I've been hanging around with the community too much who say it

Re: [WikiEN-l] Pending Changes: first press

2010-06-14 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 10:19 PM, William Pietri will...@scissor.com wrote: On 06/14/2010 06:46 PM, Ian Woollard wrote: On 15/06/2010, MuZemikemuzem...@gmail.com  wrote:  Have there been any other media outlets, blogs, etc. who see Pending  Changes as a loosening of controls? I haven't;

Re: [WikiEN-l] Pending Changes: first press

2010-06-14 Thread William Pietri
On 06/14/2010 08:22 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote: An edit is an edit. An act in completion by itself. For it to not stick it must be_reverted_, another act— not something passive. Perhaps it might sit unflagged for some time... but even in the worst case someone with the authority will

Re: [WikiEN-l] Community ready for Pending Changes (nee Flagged Protection)?

2010-06-14 Thread Risker
Despite the fact that I do have reservations about several aspects of this trial deployment, I do recognise that this is indeed a *trial*, and that the purpose of a trial is to learn, and to try out new ideas to see whether they work in whole or in part. The opportunity to learn is the reason

Re: [WikiEN-l] Community ready for Pending Changes (nee Flagged Protection)?

2010-06-14 Thread William Pietri
On 06/14/2010 09:56 PM, Risker wrote: If there is no intention at this time to stop the trial and deactivate the extension on August 15th, I'd like the WMF and the developers to say so now. This is, as the community requested, a 60-day trial. At the end of that, unless the community clearly

Re: [WikiEN-l] Pending Changes: first press

2010-06-14 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
Gregory Maxwell wrote: On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 10:19 PM, William Pietri will...@scissor.com wrote: I agree completely that the outcome is really up to the community. But personally, it's my hope that this will open things up. Certainly the articles selected for initial trial of this