[WikiEN-l] Aliases and the MoS?

2010-10-18 Thread Charles Matthews
Something different to talk about. I have wondered for some time if it is really the case that we have not addressed the issue of alias names, where the point may simply be alternate spellings. This is not particularly important for contemporary names that are already Romanised. It is

Re: [WikiEN-l] Aliases and the MoS?

2010-10-18 Thread David Gerard
On 18 October 2010 12:23, Charles Matthews charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com wrote: As far as I can see [[Wikipedia:Manual of Style (biographies)]] doesn't cover this ground, while dealing with numerous points in the same general area of naming. My instinct is that multiple possible spellings,

Re: [WikiEN-l] Aliases and the MoS?

2010-10-18 Thread Carcharoth
I've always said that extensive variants on spelling and transliterations should go into footnotes and/or a section in the article itself, rather than in the first sentence of the lead section, but there is also an argument that people expect to find it in the first sentence. Where to draw the

Re: [WikiEN-l] Aliases and the MoS?

2010-10-18 Thread Carcharoth
Spooky. We both typed YMMV. :-) ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] Building a community or building an encyclopedia?

2010-10-18 Thread Carcharoth
Read this a few days ago, and thought it was really good. Wanted to say that, even if there isn't much more to add. I particularly liked the last bit: We're an educational institution in two senses: we write educational material for the world in general, and we educate each other. Carcharoth On

Re: [WikiEN-l] Building a community or building an encyclopedia?

2010-10-18 Thread David Gerard
On 17 October 2010 06:22, David Goodman dgoodma...@gmail.com wrote: We're an educational institution in two senses: we write educational material forv the world in general, and we educate each other. I strongly suggest you start a Wikimedia-related blog and crosspost posts like this to it,

Re: [WikiEN-l] Building a community or building an encyclopedia?

2010-10-18 Thread Fred Bauder
On 17 October 2010 06:22, David Goodman dgoodma...@gmail.com wrote: We're an educational institution in two senses: we write educational material forv the world in general, and we educate each other. I strongly suggest you start a Wikimedia-related blog and crosspost posts like this to it,

Re: [WikiEN-l] Alleged Liberal Bias

2010-10-18 Thread Peter Jacobi
As the overwhelming majority of points on the list are absurd or pathetic, it took me a bit by surprise that I'm sort of agreeing with #51 (Wikipedia's entry on Peter Singer downplayed his advocacy for infanticide and moral disdain for human life.) The coverage in his article and in

Re: [WikiEN-l] Alleged Liberal Bias

2010-10-18 Thread Ryan Delaney
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 11:01, Peter Jacobi peter_jac...@gmx.net wrote: As the overwhelming majority of points on the list are absurd or pathetic, it took me a bit by surprise that I'm sort of agreeing with #51 (Wikipedia's entry on Peter Singer downplayed his advocacy for infanticide and

Re: [WikiEN-l] Alleged Liberal Bias

2010-10-18 Thread Ryan Delaney
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 11:42, Ryan Delaney ryan.dela...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 11:01, Peter Jacobi peter_jac...@gmx.net wrote: As the overwhelming majority of points on the list are absurd or pathetic, it took me a bit by surprise that I'm sort of agreeing with #51

Re: [WikiEN-l] Alleged Liberal Bias

2010-10-18 Thread Peter Jacobi
Ryan, All, (Regarding #51, [[Peter Singer]]) Actually, I haven't looked at this article in awhile since I quit editing Wikipedia. It looks like the balance is quite good, as far as your philosophy articles go. If anything, the discussion of his arguments on infanticide may be too prominent.

Re: [WikiEN-l] Alleged Liberal Bias

2010-10-18 Thread Fred Bauder
Are you speaking of the article on the German Wikipedia? Fred Ryan, All, (Regarding #51, [[Peter Singer]]) Actually, I haven't looked at this article in awhile since I quit editing Wikipedia. It looks like the balance is quite good, as far as your philosophy articles go. If anything,

Re: [WikiEN-l] Alleged Liberal Bias

2010-10-18 Thread Ryan Delaney
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 12:09, Peter Jacobi peter_jac...@gmx.net wrote: Ryan, All, (Regarding #51, [[Peter Singer]]) Actually, I haven't looked at this article in awhile since I quit editing Wikipedia. It looks like the balance is quite good, as far as your philosophy articles go. If

Re: [WikiEN-l] Aliases and the MoS?

2010-10-18 Thread Andrew Gray
On 18 October 2010 12:23, Charles Matthews charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com wrote: As far as I can see [[Wikipedia:Manual of Style (biographies)]] doesn't cover this ground, while dealing with numerous points in the same general area of naming. My instinct is that multiple possible spellings,

Re: [WikiEN-l] Aliases and the MoS?

2010-10-18 Thread Carcharoth
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 10:21 PM, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote: Maybe an infobox section would be appropriate here? Oh, please no. You need to explain the name variants and languages, otherwise you get nationalists edit-warring incessantly over it. The Copernicus one is a good

Re: [WikiEN-l] Alleged Liberal Bias

2010-10-18 Thread Ryan Delaney
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 13:23, Ryan Delaney ryan.dela...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 12:09, Peter Jacobi peter_jac...@gmx.net wrote: Ryan, All, (Regarding #51, [[Peter Singer]]) Actually, I haven't looked at this article in awhile since I quit editing Wikipedia. It looks like

[WikiEN-l] Number of names in one sentence

2010-10-18 Thread WereSpielChequers
Certainly we don't need something like the five names in one sentence we currently have for Copernicus: *Nicolaus Copernicus* (Polish: *Miko?aj Kopernik*; German: *Nikolaus Kopernikus*; in his youth, *Niclas Koppernigk*;[1] Italian: *Nicol? Copernico*; 19 February 1473 ? 24 May 1543) was a

Re: [WikiEN-l] Number of names in one sentence

2010-10-18 Thread Carcharoth
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 11:50 PM, WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.com wrote: Five versions of the name is positively simplex. The http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/River_Westbourne manages eleven without overwhelming the article. I will never think of Sloane Square tube station in the