Re: [WikiEN-l] Tabloid sources (was Wikipedia leadership})

2011-02-05 Thread Carcharoth
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@yahoo.com wrote: Also, some of those media references may be obituaries, which are a different sort of source to news articles. While Lessing was born in 1919, last time I looked she was still alive. ;) Oops! :-) Tough old bird.

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia Leadership (was NY Times article on gender gap in Wikipedia contributors}

2011-02-05 Thread Andreas Kolbe
--- On Sat, 5/2/11, David Goodman dgge...@gmail.com wrote: Academic writing makes a judgement about  what the most likely state of matters is, and gives a position. When I read  an academic paper , in whatever field, I expect that there be some conclusions. (I am likely to skip ahead and

Re: [WikiEN-l] Tabloid sources (was Wikipedia leadership})

2011-02-05 Thread Andreas Kolbe
--- On Sat, 5/2/11, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com wrote: From: Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com Andreas Kolbe jayen...@yahoo.com wrote: Our article talks about her dalliances with communism, feminism, and sufism, and tells us that she was out shopping for groceries when the

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia Leadership (was NY Times article on gender gap in Wikipedia contributors}

2011-02-05 Thread wiki
-Original Message- From: wikien-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikien-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Andreas Kolbe Sent: 05 February 2011 10:21 To: English Wikipedia Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia Leadership (was NY Times article on gender gap in Wikipedia

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia Leadership (was NY Times article on gender gap in Wikipedia contributors}

2011-02-05 Thread Andreas Kolbe
--- On Sat, 5/2/11, wiki doc.wikipe...@ntlworld.com wrote: From: wiki doc.wikipe...@ntlworld.com If we really wanted our core topic articles to be at FA standard, we'd need to adopt a totally different process. One where a writer was allowed to start from scratch and write a new article,

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia Leadership (was NY Times article on gender gap in Wikipedia contributors}

2011-02-05 Thread Fred Bauder
I've always found the problem with Wikipedia is that it has components which usually work remarkably well together (wiki, open editing, no-privileged editors, neutrality, verifiability, quality) but since it has never defined which of these is core and which is the means to the end, on the

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia Leadership (was NY Times article on gender gap in Wikipedia contributors}

2011-02-05 Thread Ian Woollard
On 05/02/2011, David Goodman dgge...@gmail.com wrote: Academic writing makes a judgement about what the most likely state of matters is, and gives a position. When I read an academic paper , in whatever field, I expect that there be some conclusions. (I am likely to skip ahead and read the

Re: [WikiEN-l] Tabloid sources (was Wikipedia leadership})

2011-02-05 Thread Mark
On 2/4/11 6:08 PM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: I do not permit any of my students to cite your encyclopedia as any kind of reliable source when they write papers for me. Wikipedia is too much a playground for social activists of whatever editorial bent wherein the lowest common denominator gets to

Re: [WikiEN-l] Tabloid sources (was Wikipedia leadership})

2011-02-05 Thread Andreas Kolbe
--- On Sat, 5/2/11, Mark delir...@hackish.org wrote: From: Mark delir...@hackish.org On 2/4/11 6:08 PM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: I do not permit any of my students to cite your encyclopedia as any kind of reliable source when they write papers for me. Wikipedia is too much a playground for