Re: [Wikitech-l] Mailing list etiquette and trolling [Bugzilla etiquette]

2013-12-23 Thread Andre Klapper
On Sun, 2013-12-22 at 20:18 +, Marcin Cieslak wrote: Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 3:50 PM, Isarra Yos zhoris...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/12/13 23:28, Petr Bena wrote: I think we need to use less rules and more common sense. This. Rules are

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mailing list etiquette and trolling [Bugzilla etiquette]

2013-12-22 Thread Marcin Cieslak
Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 3:50 PM, Isarra Yos zhoris...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/12/13 23:28, Petr Bena wrote: I think we need to use less rules and more common sense. This. Rules are silly. Common sense for all :) Yeah, and at this very moment we are

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mailing list etiquette and trolling

2013-12-12 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 1:50 AM, Nathan Larson nathanlarson3...@gmail.com wrote: From my experience on the Internet, I suspect that most of the times when people are accused of trolling, they are actually serious; and most of the times when people are trolling, they're taken seriously and no

[Wikitech-l] Mailing list etiquette and trolling

2013-12-11 Thread Jeroen De Dauw
Hey, In recent months I've come across a few mails on this list that only contained accusations of trolling. Those are very much not constructive and only serve to antagonize. I know some forums that have an explicit rule against this, which results in a ban on second violation. If there is a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mailing list etiquette and trolling

2013-12-11 Thread Ryan Lane
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Jeroen De Dauw jeroended...@gmail.comwrote: In recent months I've come across a few mails on this list that only contained accusations of trolling. Those are very much not constructive and only serve to antagonize. I know some forums that have an explicit rule

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mailing list etiquette and trolling

2013-12-11 Thread Matthew Walker
I think I've seen a couple of the times this has happened. It appears to me that it might be in reaction to a perceived misunderstanding of the topic on either party. If we assume good faith on both sides; then I think it's reasonable for the perceived 'trolling' party to gently restate their

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mailing list etiquette and trolling

2013-12-11 Thread Isarra Yos
On 11/12/13 22:21, Ryan Lane wrote: On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Jeroen De Dauw jeroended...@gmail.comwrote: In recent months I've come across a few mails on this list that only contained accusations of trolling. Those are very much not constructive and only serve to antagonize. I know

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mailing list etiquette and trolling

2013-12-11 Thread Petr Bena
Is this thread some trolling on its own? :P I think we need to use less rules and more common sense. All these etiquettes are just damaging your natural intelligence... On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 11:11 PM, Jeroen De Dauw jeroended...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, In recent months I've come across a few

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mailing list etiquette and trolling

2013-12-11 Thread Isarra Yos
On 11/12/13 23:28, Petr Bena wrote: I think we need to use less rules and more common sense. This. When you get right down to it, what even is trolling? And should it necessarily matter? Even if someone is trolling, that doesn't mean they may not have a real point to it, though perhaps they

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mailing list etiquette and trolling

2013-12-11 Thread Tyler Romeo
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Jeroen De Dauw jeroended...@gmail.comwrote: (I'm now half expecting someone to claim this mail is a troll. Perhaps we ought to make a contest out of making the accusation first, at least then it will have general amusement value :D) This contest idea sounds

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mailing list etiquette and trolling

2013-12-11 Thread Chad
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 3:50 PM, Isarra Yos zhoris...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/12/13 23:28, Petr Bena wrote: I think we need to use less rules and more common sense. This. Rules are silly. Common sense for all :) -Chad ___ Wikitech-l mailing list

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mailing list etiquette and trolling

2013-12-11 Thread Rob Lanphier
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Jeroen De Dauw jeroended...@gmail.com wrote: In recent months I've come across a few mails on this list that only contained accusations of trolling. Those are very much not constructive and

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mailing list etiquette and trolling

2013-12-11 Thread Nathan Larson
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 12:03 AM, Rob Lanphier ro...@wikimedia.org wrote: Or perhaps he merely suggested something that you disagreed with (or didn't understand), without losing [his] mind or being a troll? I'm a little skeptical about Jeroen's GitHub suggestion, but it seems like something