Re: [Wikitech-l] TitleValue reloaded

2014-04-23 Thread Sumana Harihareswara
On 03/31/2014 06:14 PM, Sumana Harihareswara wrote: On 02/26/2014 12:23 PM, Daniel Kinzler wrote: I have just pushed a new version of the TitleValue patch to Gerrit: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/106517. I have also updated the RDF to reflect the latest changes:

Re: [Wikitech-l] TitleValue reloaded

2014-03-31 Thread Sumana Harihareswara
On 02/26/2014 12:23 PM, Daniel Kinzler wrote: I have just pushed a new version of the TitleValue patch to Gerrit: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/106517. I have also updated the RDF to reflect the latest changes: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/TitleValue. Please have a

[Wikitech-l] TitleValue reloaded

2014-02-26 Thread Daniel Kinzler
I have just pushed a new version of the TitleValue patch to Gerrit: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/106517. I have also updated the RDF to reflect the latest changes: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/TitleValue. Please have a look. I have tried to address several issues with

Re: [Wikitech-l] TitleValue

2014-02-07 Thread Daniel Kinzler
Am 06.02.2014 21:09, schrieb Sumana Harihareswara: I agree that this mailing list is a reasonable place to discuss the interfaces. Notes from the Architecture Summit are now up at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Architecture_Summit_2014/TitleValue# . At yesterday's RFC review we agreed that

Re: [Wikitech-l] TitleValue

2014-02-06 Thread Sumana Harihareswara
I agree that this mailing list is a reasonable place to discuss the interfaces. Notes from the Architecture Summit are now up at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Architecture_Summit_2014/TitleValue# . At yesterday's RFC review we agreed that we'd like to hold another one next week (will figure out

Re: [Wikitech-l] TitleValue

2014-02-04 Thread Nikolas Everett
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 8:55 PM, Daniel Kinzler dan...@brightbyte.dewrote: Am 24.01.2014 14:44, schrieb Brad Jorsch (Anomie): It looks to me like the existing patch *already is* getting too far into the Javaification, with it's proliferation of classes with single methods that need to be

Re: [Wikitech-l] TitleValue

2014-02-04 Thread Daniel Kinzler
Thanks for your input Nik! I'll add my 2ยข below. Would be great if others could chime in. I have just pushed a new version of the path, please have a look at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/106517/ Am 04.02.2014 16:31, schrieb Nikolas Everett: * Should linking, parsing, and formatting live

[Wikitech-l] TitleValue

2014-01-24 Thread Nik Everett
At the architecture summit yesterday we had a conversation about the TitleValue proposal and the vast majority of folks thought it was a great start. Something like 10% of us thought the patch _might_ be a start down the path to Javaify MediaWiki. I was one of the 10%. We resolved to talk

Re: [Wikitech-l] TitleValue

2014-01-24 Thread Siebrand Mazeland (WMF)
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Nik Everett never...@wikimedia.orgwrote: At the architecture summit yesterday we had a conversation about the TitleValue proposal and the vast majority of folks thought it was a great start. Something like 10% of us thought the patch _might_ be a start down

Re: [Wikitech-l] TitleValue

2014-01-24 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Nik Everett never...@wikimedia.orgwrote: At the architecture summit yesterday we had a conversation about the TitleValue proposal and the vast majority of folks thought it was a great start. Something like 10% of us thought the patch _might_ be a start down

Re: [Wikitech-l] TitleValue

2014-01-24 Thread Jeroen De Dauw
Hey, Java is a technology with strong and weak sides, like any other. Religiously labeling anything that resembles something from it as evil because you do not like it is perhaps not the most constructive approach one can take. That is quite obvious of course. From my vantage point, it definitely

Re: [Wikitech-l] TitleValue

2014-01-24 Thread Tim Starling
On 24/01/14 11:19, Nik Everett wrote: The TitleValue proposal is an improvement over what we have now so I figure we should just do it. Is that ok? I am also personally in favour of it, but I would like to achieve consensus of the MediaWiki core team if possible before continuing. On

Re: [Wikitech-l] TitleValue

2014-01-24 Thread Tim Starling
On 24/01/14 15:11, Jeroen De Dauw wrote: Java is a technology with strong and weak sides, like any other. Religiously labeling anything that resembles something from it as evil because you do not like it is perhaps not the most constructive approach one can take. That is quite obvious of

Re: [Wikitech-l] TitleValue

2014-01-24 Thread Daniel Kinzler
Am 24.01.2014 16:15, schrieb Tim Starling: On 24/01/14 15:11, Jeroen De Dauw wrote: Daniel proposed an ideal code architecture as consisting of a non-trivial network of trivial classes -- a bold and precise vision. Nobody was uncivil or deprecating in their response. This idea is something