Re: [Wikitech-l] Video: Loading Barack Obama on 2G from Spain on a Nexus 5

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:28 AM, Peter Hedenskog wrote: > I like videos because it's so easy for non technical people to understand > the value of performance. For me it has been a really good way to show and > explain performance changes and what it looks like for the user.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Video: Loading Barack Obama on 2G from Spain on a Nexus 5

> https://grafana.wikimedia.org/dashboard/db/mobile-webpagetest?panelId=28 > I'm guessing they can be milliseconds? yes sorry I forgot to change that, now it is easier to understand. On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 5:09 PM, Joaquin Oltra Hernandez < jhernan...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > Thanks for the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Video: Loading Barack Obama on 2G from Spain on a Nexus 5

Thanks for the responses Federico & Peter. Federico, I fully agree that a video is not a replacement for data, but they serve different purposes. Peter expanded on it better than I what I could do, but basically data driven tests serve a great deal for development purposes to assessing impact of

Re: [Wikitech-l] Video: Loading Barack Obama on 2G from Spain on a Nexus 5

I like videos because it's so easy for non technical people to understand the value of performance. For me it has been a really good way to show and explain performance changes and what it looks like for the user. Picking a representative connection is hard and the good thing is I think we don't

Re: [Wikitech-l] Video: Loading Barack Obama on 2G from Spain on a Nexus 5

I'm allergic to videos as replacement of data, but does your video substantially differ from what tests give us, e.g. http://www.webpagetest.org/video/view.php?id=160118_YK_HKT.1.0 ? It's easy to test multiple speeds (some tests still pending):

Re: [Wikitech-l] Video: Loading Barack Obama on 2G from Spain on a Nexus 5

Thanks, Joaquin. I image how tiresome waiting 3 minutes of loading (for a web page!) must be. I just hope that no one decides that this makes a good reason for "splitting" the Obama article. I would expect more improvements from the browser itself, more on-the-fly rendering of the page as you get

Re: [Wikitech-l] Video: Loading Barack Obama on 2G from Spain on a Nexus 5

Sure Bernardo, happy to share. This was the best take I got from around 4 runs. I have other video that I haven't uploaded that goes on for 4 minutes and tries to close chrome 3 times (it is painful and boring to watch). With high speed connections I haven't experienced this behaviour, the worst

Re: [Wikitech-l] Video: Loading Barack Obama on 2G from Spain on a Nexus 5

Can you clarify what you consider "splitting"? I'm interested in knowing more. I'm of the opinion that there's only so much that browsers can do, there's ways of serving the content like lazy loading that still get you the full content but help the browser do less work. I also think that it's

Re: [Wikitech-l] Video: Loading Barack Obama on 2G from Spain on a Nexus 5

A section that looks only loosely related to the article could get an article of its own to make the article shorter. Literally, splitting it into multiple articles. However, I think that does not make sense in this case. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list

Re: [Wikitech-l] Video: Loading Barack Obama on 2G from Spain on a Nexus 5

I understand, thanks for the response! I don't think in any case any implementation would mean splitting article content in the sense you mentioned here. As you said, it doesn't make sense. Cheers! On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 2:35 PM, Bernardo Sulzbach < mafagafogiga...@gmail.com> wrote: > A

Re: [Wikitech-l] Video: Loading Barack Obama on 2G from Spain on a Nexus 5

Would you mind sharing your own conclusions? I understand that it is a pain to say the least, but I can't think of any simple way to fix this without removing content from the page. Also, Nexus 5 has decent hardware, right? It can get much worse than that, which would likely slow it down even

Re: [Wikitech-l] Video: Loading Barack Obama on 2G from Spain on a Nexus 5

My apologies. I guess I read the original email too fast. On Tuesday, January 12, 2016, Bernardo Sulzbach wrote: > Brian, you seem off. Do you know that we are talking about loading the > Obama page, right? > > ___ >

Re: [Wikitech-l] Video: Loading Barack Obama on 2G from Spain on a Nexus 5

Without actually trying this, I dont think anyone should be surprised that loading an HD video on 2g mobile is going to suck and that a site that dynamically adapts the video to your bandwidth constraints is going to be much better. Even with a super fast internet, the youtube video will still be

Re: [Wikitech-l] Video: Loading Barack Obama on 2G from Spain on a Nexus 5

Brian, you seem off. Do you know that we are talking about loading the Obama page, right? ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Video: Loading Barack Obama on 2G from Spain on a Nexus 5

To be clear Joaquin is asking people to record their experiences on 2G connections of loading the Barack Obama article it is not about displaying video. It would also be interesting for people to try the experience on their desktop browser using 2g and record those experiences as many people

[Wikitech-l] Video: Loading Barack Obama on 2G from Spain on a Nexus 5

Hi, Here's an interesting video that we didn't get to show on the Developer Summit. This is me with my Nexus 5 (Android 6) on 2G in Spain loading en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack Obama https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1w0EcuiUjo Write your own conclusions, hopefully this will make us think. If