Re: [Wikitech-l] An actual bikeshed

2013-01-23 Thread Bawolff Bawolff
On 2013-01-23 3:38 PM, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote: Suggested solution: Maybe some kind of voting system might be of use to force some kind of consensus rather than leaving problems unsolved. I'm fed up of receiving emails about the same problem I discussed weeks before that never

Re: [Wikitech-l] Why are we still using captchas on WMF sites?

2013-01-22 Thread Bawolff Bawolff
On 2013-01-22 3:30 PM, aude aude.w...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 8:18 PM, Luke Welling WMF lwell...@wikimedia.org wrote: That was not the end of the problem I was referring to. We know our specific captcha is broken at turning away machines. As far as I am aware we do not

Re: [Wikitech-l] Coding conventions

2013-01-22 Thread Bawolff Bawolff
On 2013-01-22 6:05 PM, Jeroen De Dauw jeroended...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, I hereby admit defeat. My thread was clearly not the ultimate bikeshed. Cheers -- On this bikeshed, allowing both styles sounds perfectly acceptable to me. -bawolff ___

Re: [Wikitech-l] Html comments into raw wiki code: can they be wrapped into parsed html?

2013-01-22 Thread Bawolff Bawolff
On 2013-01-22 6:03 PM, Alex Brollo alex.bro...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/1/22 Paul Selitskas p.selits...@gmail.com What do you mean by any wikicode (template call, parameter, link) present into the value of infobox parameter breaks the stuff, since it is parsed and expanded by parser

Re: [Wikitech-l] Completed ! Re: More Update on Ashburn data center switchover / migration – target date is week of 1/22/13

2013-01-22 Thread Bawolff Bawolff
Good work to everyone involved! -bawolff On 2013-01-22 6:53 PM, Ct Woo ct...@wikimedia.org wrote: All, The switchover work is done. The site was was available to readers throughout the migration work though it was in read-only mode for about 32 minutes, when Asher and Mark had to migrate

Re: [Wikitech-l] Why are we still using captchas on WMF sites?

2013-01-21 Thread Bawolff Bawolff
On 2013-01-21 3:56 AM, Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Mon, 2013-01-21 at 07:48 +, David Gerard wrote: On 21 January 2013 05:13, Victor Vasiliev vasi...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/20/2013 04:22 PM, David Gerard wrote: The MediaWiki captcha is literally worse than

Re: [Wikitech-l] Why are we still using captchas on WMF sites?

2013-01-21 Thread Bawolff Bawolff
Given that there are algorithms that can solve our captcha presumably they are mostly preventing the lazy and those that don't have enough knowledge to use those algorithims. I would guess that text on an image without any blurring or manipulation would be just as hard for those sorts of people to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Why are we still using captchas on WMF sites?

2013-01-20 Thread Bawolff Bawolff
This question is something we've also been asking ourselves on the E3 team, as part of our work on account creation. I think we all agree that CAPTCHAs are at best a necessary evil. They are a compromise we make in our user experience, in order to combat automated attacks. That's kind of

[Wikitech-l] Caching of images in varnish

2013-01-19 Thread Bawolff Bawolff
There are reports everywhere of uploading new versions of images failing (upload works but new version does not show up). Last time this happened all that needed to be done was fot varnishhtcpd to be restarted on the image cache servers. [1] could someone with the ability to check, check if that

Re: [Wikitech-l] Huggle is now in git

2013-01-18 Thread Bawolff Bawolff
English is a useless language anyhow. There's not even a compilier for it! -bawolff On 2013-01-18 11:49 AM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: * in case anyone is interested in * common mistake done by me. One day I will hopefully master english :) On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Petr

Re: [Wikitech-l] Google Summer of Code 2013

2013-01-17 Thread Bawolff Bawolff
One thing I would like to see is code from projects being merged into core at a regular basis instead of just at the end. Obviously that might not be possible for all projects depending on what your project is, but many that modify core can be done in incremental steps. I don't know about last

Re: [Wikitech-l] Generating documentation from JavaScript doc comments

2013-01-16 Thread Bawolff Bawolff
Would it be possible/difficult to get something similar working for gadgets on WMF wikis? Helder What would be really cool would be if the js content handler code detected code doc comments and formatted them nicely. Something similar to how back in the old days people used to have things

Re: [Wikitech-l] The ultimate bikeshed: typos in commit messages

2013-01-16 Thread Bawolff Bawolff
On 2013-01-16 7:20 PM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 6:07 PM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 17/01/13 00:14, Chad wrote: Really, I think the whole thread is moot with the pending upgrade. Typos should always be fixed before merging (I think we