Re: [WISPA] Alvarion 3.65ghz NLOS as good as 900mhz?

2010-04-20 Thread Chuck Bartosch
I have no experience with 802.16e, but have lots with 802.16d. 16d does not support MIMO. However, even without MIMO, we are ripping out 900/5.x and putting in Alvarion .16d. The diversity alone gives it penetration characteristics equal to or better than 900. WiMax does cost more, as we all

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion 3.65ghz NLOS as good as 900mhz?

2010-04-20 Thread Chuck Bartosch
We did not find that WiMax in general was better than 900. The key isn't WiMax, per se, but diversity antennas. Performance is *helped* by being 3.65 WiMax but that alone does NOT obviate the need for 900 in our experience. Diversity is key. Chuck On Apr 19, 2010, at 9:23 AM, Jeremie Chism

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion 3.65ghz NLOS as good as 900mhz?

2010-04-20 Thread Tom DeReggi
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Chuck Bartosch ch...@clarityconnect.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion 3.65ghz NLOS as good as 900mhz? We did not find that WiMax in general

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion 3.65ghz NLOS as good as 900mhz?

2010-04-20 Thread Chuck Bartosch
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Chuck Bartosch ch...@clarityconnect.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion 3.65ghz NLOS as good as 900mhz? We did

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion 3.65ghz NLOS as good as 900mhz?

2010-04-20 Thread Jeremie Chism
] Alvarion 3.65ghz NLOS as good as 900mhz? We did not find that WiMax in general was better than 900. The key isn't WiMax, per se, but diversity antennas. Performance is *helped* by being 3.65 WiMax but that alone does NOT obviate the need for 900 in our experience. Diversity is key. Chuck

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion 3.65ghz NLOS as good as 900mhz? OFFLIST

2010-04-20 Thread Scott Carullo
so what wimax gear are you using? Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 From: Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 10:18 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion 3.65ghz NLOS as good

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion 3.65ghz NLOS as good as 900mhz?

2010-04-20 Thread Scott Carullo
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion 3.65ghz NLOS as good as 900mhz? I am not using alvarion 3.65 but I am using wimax. I have a couple customers with lower modulation because of non line of site situations and have seen no impact on the entire system in general. Supposedly wimax is engineered

[WISPA] Alvarion 3.65ghz NLOS as good as 900mhz?

2010-04-19 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Has anyone seen the Alvarion 3.65ghz 802.16e equipment in operation? Was talking to one vendor that claimed if you run the system in MIMO that with the diversity you can do NLOS as good as 900mhz and if you get the AP on a 300ft tower that it starts to feel like 700mhz. He claimed the NLOS was so

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion 3.65ghz NLOS as good as 900mhz?

2010-04-19 Thread Rubens Kuhl
That would only be true if the data services are somewhat purpose-specific and not Internet access. Doing what this vendor told you would seriously affect aggregate performance of the cell because of low rate modulation of the NLOS and/or distant customers. If you are doing sensor networks or POS

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion 3.65ghz NLOS as good as 900mhz?

2010-04-19 Thread Jeremie Chism
I am not using alvarion 3.65 but I am using wimax. I have a couple customers with lower modulation because of non line of site situations and have seen no impact on the entire system in general. Supposedly wimax is engineered to handle some of this better than my alvarion 900. Sent from my

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion 3.65ghz NLOS as good as 900mhz?

2010-04-19 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
-Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeremie Chism Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 9:24 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion 3.65ghz NLOS as good as 900mhz? I am not using alvarion 3.65 but I am using wimax

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion 3.65ghz NLOS as good as 900mhz?

2010-04-19 Thread Mike Hammett
8:55 AM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion 3.65ghz NLOS as good as 900mhz? I too have heard from others that WIMAX was designed so that the customers with poor connections don't take performance away from the rest with good connections. So far I have yet

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion 3.65ghz NLOS as good as 900mhz?

2010-04-19 Thread Rubens Kuhl
-Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeremie Chism Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 9:24 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion 3.65ghz NLOS as good as 900mhz? I am not using alvarion 3.65 but I am using wimax

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion 3.65ghz NLOS as good as 900mhz?

2010-04-19 Thread Jeremie Chism
3.65ghz NLOS as good as 900mhz? I am not using alvarion 3.65 but I am using wimax. I have a couple customers with lower modulation because of non line of site situations and have seen no impact on the entire system in general. Supposedly wimax is engineered to handle some of this better than

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion 3.65ghz NLOS as good as 900mhz?

2010-04-19 Thread Jeremie Chism
, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeremie Chism Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 9:24 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion 3.65ghz NLOS as good as 900mhz