Re: [WSG] Opening links in new window with XHTML

2005-04-04 Thread Martin Heiden
Tat, Am Sonntag, 3. April 2005 um 16:02:19 haben Sie geschrieben: TO I'm trying to have a link open in a new window (like I've done a million TO times). however the validator doesn't like this. TO This page is not Valid XHTML 1.1 TO http://www.w3.org/TR/2001/REC-xhtml11-20010531/ ! You seem to

Re[2]: [WSG] Opening links in new window with XHTML

2005-04-04 Thread Martin Heiden
Tat, Am Montag, 4. April 2005 um 08:14:22 haben Sie geschrieben: MH uncomment the target section, give it a name and put it inside your MH site. Then modify the doctype of your pages to point at the new MH driver. Sorry, actually you have to add this section: !-- Target Module

Re: [WSG] Opening links in new window with XHTML

2005-04-04 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Sun, 03 Apr 2005 15:31:49 +0100, Vlad Alexander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You do it via JavaScript. For example: a href=http://mysite.com; onclick=window.open(this.href); return false; onkeypress=window.open(this.href); return false;/a This is the most accessible way to do this. No, it

RE: [WSG] Multiple classes applied to one element

2005-04-04 Thread Trusz, Andrew
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of pixeldiva Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 10:16 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Multiple classes applied to one element On Apr 1, 2005 4:04 PM, Trusz, Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [WSG] Suckerfish Sliding Doors Image Replacement with Current Page .. Navigation

2005-04-04 Thread Alan Trick
Sorry, I don't have a Mac, so I can't help you in that department, but I tested it in my versions of Firefox (1.0.2 nightly) and the menus go down, but they won't go up again (at least I couldn't figure out how to do it). Alan Trick Richard Czeiger wrote: Let's combine a whole bunch of

Re: [WSG] Suckerfish Sliding Doors Image Replacement with Current Page .. Navigation

2005-04-04 Thread hunter
FYI, same problem in ff1.0.2/Mac)S 10.3.3 - dropdown drops but doesn't retract again. Works well in Opera 7.54, but the dividing line between Cleaning and Health Support looks more like a dashed line - seems to be broken somehow. However, works great in Safari 1.2.1. Good luck! Wendy Alan

Re: [WSG] help with IE 3-pixel bug

2005-04-04 Thread Chris Stratford
I can't see what you mean. But what I do is, give the container a height of 1%. eg: div { height: 1% } and that DIV will no longer be effected. I cant tell if thats the problem though. Gallagher, Robin wrote: Hi As you can see on the test page I've put up here:

[WSG] position:absolute in IE

2005-04-04 Thread Alan Trick
Disclamer: this was /not/ my idea, the companies graphic designer make me do it :-P The graphics designer at my company has a thing against pages that are larger/smaller than the viewport. As much as I fell this is total nonsense I've tried to comply with her wishes. As always IE is giving

Re: [WSG] WCAG 1.0 §10.5

2005-04-04 Thread Mordechai Peller
Piero Fissore wrote: Someone told me that it doesn't consider those links separated because of the the printed point of the li element. That someone says that in the guideline - at the point 10.5 - they speak about separate adiacent links with PRINTED character: this is true, but I can't believe

[WSG] textarea rows cols - presentation in xhtml?

2005-04-04 Thread Paul Novitski
Why is it that rows and cols are required attributes for the textarea element, even in xhtml? They strike me as being purely presentational, and not really needed: in the absense of styling, browsers could apply arbitrary defaults as they do with text input field width. I can't find any

[WSG] Out of Office AutoReply: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org

2005-04-04 Thread Moore, Douglas W
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Re: [WSG] position:absolute in IE

2005-04-04 Thread Alan Trick
That's what I had, but AFAIK, you can't have the page resize to fit the viewport without absolute/fixed positioning (unless you use a screwy js hack). If you could prove me wrong I would be very greatful. Personally I dislike absolute positioning. Alan David Laakso wrote: On Mon, 04 Apr 2005

[WSG] stemming autoreplies

2005-04-04 Thread Alan Trick
I know this is offtopic in this list but I don't know where it is on topic, I'd be happy if anyone pointed out where I should send this. I'm wondeing if the people who maintain the mailing list could stop forwarding emails with 'AUTOREPLY','OUT OF OFFICE', and 'MESSAGE NOT DELIVERED' in the

[WSG] stemming autoreplies

2005-04-04 Thread Alan Trick
I know this is offtopic in this list but I don't know where it is on topic, I'd be happy if anyone pointed out where I should send this. I'm wondeing if the people who maintain the mailing list could stop forwarding emails with 'AUTOREPLY','OUT OF OFFICE', and 'MESSAGE NOT DELIVERED' in the

Re: [WSG] textarea rows cols - presentation in xhtml?

2005-04-04 Thread Alan Trick
I've wondered about this one as well, my guess is that 1. they figured the attributes were to important to drop in the event of non-css user agents, or more likely 2. they didn't change it because xhtml1.x was really not much more than a reformulation of html into xml. To get real xhtml we

[WSG] DTD syntax [WAS] Opening links in new window with XHTML

2005-04-04 Thread Chris Bentley
Chris Stratford wrote: You can use this DTD: !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC XHTML 1.0 Strict http://www.neester.com/DTD/xhtml-target.dtd; I made it myself from a tutorial. It is XHTML 1.0 Strict. Are you sure that the Formal Public Identifier part of the DTD can really look like that? I thought that

Re: [WSG] position:absolute in IE

2005-04-04 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Alan Trick wrote: That's what I had, but AFAIK, you can't have the page resize to fit the viewport without absolute/fixed positioning (unless you use a screwy js hack). If you could prove me wrong I would be very greatful. Personally I dislike absolute positioning. David Laakso wrote: Looks

Re: [WSG] textarea rows cols - presentation in xhtml?

2005-04-04 Thread Sigurd Magnusson
It could be argued that it is more than presentation. It indicates to the user about the quantity or usage of the textarea; the size of text fields is a usability topic. If you were told to write a "Summary of your proposal", and given 8 lines instead of 2 lines, you would probably write a

Re: [WSG] textarea rows cols - presentation in xhtml?

2005-04-04 Thread Paul Novitski
At 03:00 PM 4/4/2005, Sigurd Magnusson wrote: It could be argued that it is more than presentation. It indicates to the user about the quantity or usage of the textarea; the size of text fields is a usability topic. If you were told to write a Summary of your proposal, and given 8 lines instead

[WSG] Captioning images - to DL or not to DL

2005-04-04 Thread Helen . Rysavy
Hi I was wondering what the best solution was for captioning images where you have a number of differently sized images on a page. Is using a definition list the best way to do this and the most semantically correct? Are there better ways? The biggest problem I have found is having to set the

Re: [WSG] textarea rows cols - presentation in xhtml?

2005-04-04 Thread Sigurd Magnusson
The number of rows and columns of a textarea in no way constrains the amount of text that can be entered, it only affect the appearance of the input area on the screen. I agree it doesn't technically constrain the user, but it does instruct a user how much they are expected to write. As power

[WSG] help with IE 3-pixel bug

2005-04-04 Thread Gallagher, Robin
This fixed it: #rightColumn { float: right; width: 200px; background-image: url(background.jpg); background-repeat: no-repeat; height: 500px; } * html #rightColumn { width: 202px; margin-left: -2px; } * html hid the IE fix from other

Re: [WSG] Captioning images - to DL or not to DL

2005-04-04 Thread Sigurd Magnusson
Sure I've never heard myself of using DL/DT/DD for this sort of thing, although instinctively it seems quite an appropriate use. My question relates to what sort of problems you have encountered with widths; I would have thought the following would pose no problems: dl class=captionedimage

[WSG] Styling Forms

2005-04-04 Thread standards
Good evening all, I know there's two schools of thought regarding forms where one uses a table and the other a definition list to style and layout the data fields. I have a simple form on a client's Contact Us page, and I wondered if there's a consensus as to which method is more semantically

Re: [WSG] DTD syntax [WAS] Opening links in new window with XHTML

2005-04-04 Thread Chris Stratford
Hey Chris, Not too sure on this. I just emulated the real strict DTD - but made it version 1.01 - :) Chris Bentley wrote: Chris Stratford wrote: You can use this DTD: !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC XHTML 1.0 Strict http://www.neester.com/DTD/xhtml-target.dtd; I made it myself from a tutorial. It is XHTML

Re: [WSG] Styling Forms

2005-04-04 Thread Chris Blown
I'd be pointing you towards styling fieldset and label elements rather than using dl or table Good examples http://www.themaninblue.com/experiment/InForm/ Cheers Chris On Tue, 2005-04-05 at 13:40, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good evening all, I know there's two schools of thought regarding

[WSG] ID conflicts

2005-04-04 Thread tee
Hi, I have a menu in my site that I use class ID for each link with different menu button. It was validated until I added body#ID for persistent page indicator. Before persisten page indicator: .lia href=index.htm id=home title=home accesskey=1 /a/li After page indicator: .li id=homea

Re: [WSG] Styling Forms

2005-04-04 Thread Darren Wood
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good evening all, I know there's two schools of thought regarding forms where one uses a table and the other a definition list to style and layout the data fields. I have a simple form on a client's Contact Us page, and I wondered if there's a consensus as to which method

Re: [WSG] Styling Forms

2005-04-04 Thread Bert Doorn
G'day I know there's two schools of thought regarding forms where one uses a table and the other a definition list to style and layout the data fields. I have a simple form on a client's Contact Us page, and I wondered if there's a consensus as to which method is more semantically correct? Not

RE: [WSG] Styling Forms

2005-04-04 Thread Focas, Grant
If you use label elements around your text then you can simply do this: HTML: plabel for=firstNameFirst Name/labelinput type=text id=firstName //p CSS: form p{ clear:both; } form p label{ float:left; width:30%; } Grant -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [WSG] ID conflicts

2005-04-04 Thread Jachin Sheehy
You cannot reuse IDs within a document. Each ID must have a unique value. Have a look at http://www.456bereastreet.com/archive/200503/setting_the_current_menu_state_with_css/ It has a good example of what you are trying to achieve. Regards, Jachin Sheehy Senior Web Developer InternetFiji.com

Re: [WSG] Styling Forms

2005-04-04 Thread Richard Czeiger
How about plain old form elements? Example: style type=text/css form { font: 65%/1.2 verdana, sans-serif; margin-bottom: 3em; } fieldset { margin-bottom: 0.3em; border: none; } label { width: 160px; } label.radio { width: auto; } input, select, textarea { font-family: verdana; font-size: 1.0em;

Re: [WSG] ID conflicts

2005-04-04 Thread Dmitry Baranovskiy
Hi Tee, ID should be unique. That's it. Change IDs to be diferent or use classes instead On Apr 5, 2005 12:37 PM, tee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have a menu in my site that I use class ID for each link with different menu button. It was validated until I added body#ID for persistent page

Re: [WSG] Styling Forms

2005-04-04 Thread standards
Well, it seems that styling the actual form elements is the way to go, and certainly appears to be ideal for simple forms. Thank you Chris, Bert and Darren for the quick response, advice and links! Yours respectfully, Mario G'day I know there's two schools of thought regarding forms where

Re: [WSG] ID conflicts

2005-04-04 Thread diona kidd
It looks like you're defining the same element twice, but in a different way and with a different background image. To me this makes sense why this would conflict. #siteOption li a#home { background: url(images/h_gb.gif) no-repeat; } vs. body#homepage li#home a { background:

Re: [WSG] ID conflicts

2005-04-04 Thread tee
It looks like you're defining the same element twice, but in a different way and with a different background image. To me this makes sense why this would conflict. There are 8 buttons in the menu and each button with unique ID because each button is different. #siteOption li a#home {

Re: [WSG] ID conflicts

2005-04-04 Thread Paul Novitski
At 07:37 PM 4/4/2005, tee wrote: I have a menu in my site that I use class ID for each link with different menu button. It was validated until I added body#ID for persistent page indicator. Before persisten page indicator: .lia href=index.htm id=home title=home accesskey=1 /a/li After page

Re: [WSG] ID conflicts

2005-04-04 Thread diona kidd
tee, your english is great. even those of us that grew up on the language abuse it with regularity. my only confusion comes from perhaps the 'persistent page indicator'. i'm not sure how this second definition is only triggered when a user visits the home page...irregardless, when the page

Re: [WSG] position:absolute in IE

2005-04-04 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: A simple float-design with a little bit of AP, can be as fluid as one may like it. How about 3-column floats? http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_1.html Basically it is this: http://www.alistapart.com/articles/negativemargins/ This technique uses negative margins too,

[WSG] {Spam?} css type glich

2005-04-04 Thread Kvnmcwebn
hi everyone, Im having a problem with type getting croped- The bottom few pixels of some ascenders - like on g - are being chopped off. This is happening on ie5mac and netscape 6mac, havnt tested it on the pc yet. I'm using these attributes for my paragraph text. --- p { width: 245px;

[WSG] Really strange results

2005-04-04 Thread Leslie Riggs
In some browsers, the test page I have put up renders fine: namely, IE Mac, Safari on Mac, IE6 on PC. However, Firefox, Opera, Mozilla and Netscape don't seem to see the stylesheet. Both HTML and CSS validated fine through the W3C site. I am really having a difficult time understanding why

Re: [WSG] Really strange results

2005-04-04 Thread Bert Doorn
G'day I am really having a difficult time understanding why some browsers see the stylesheet, while others don't? The link to the page: http://www.deafvision.net/projects/btw/revised/indexx.html. link rel=StyleSheet type=text/css href=css/btwnewx.css / Try making that stylesheet (all lower

Re: [WSG] Really strange results

2005-04-04 Thread Michael Dale
This is because your webserver is outputting: Content-Type: text/plain and not: Content-Type: text/css For your CSS file. IE doesn't care, but most other stuff does. Nothing wrong with your CSS. It is a web server configuration problem. - Original Message - From: Leslie Riggs [EMAIL

RE: [WSG] Really strange results

2005-04-04 Thread Ben Wrighton
Hi Lesley, Have you tried an absolute path for the style sheet href property? Regards, Ben -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Leslie Riggs Sent: Tuesday, 5 April 2005 4:35 p.m. To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Really strange

Re: [WSG] Really strange results

2005-04-04 Thread scott parsons
The easy answer is that your server is configured incorrectly. Your stylesheet is being served as text/plain, and not text/css thus some browsers are not treating it as a style sheet.. s Leslie Riggs wrote: In some browsers, the test page I have put up renders fine: namely, IE Mac, Safari on Mac,

Re: [WSG] Really strange results

2005-04-04 Thread Leslie Riggs
Thanks, Michael, Where do I find that information, so I can back up the assertion when I talk with the hosting provider? Thank you! Leslie Riggs This is because your webserver is outputting: Content-Type: text/plain and not: Content-Type: text/css For your CSS file. IE doesn't care, but most

Re: [WSG] Really strange results

2005-04-04 Thread Donna Jones
scott parsons wrote: The easy answer is that your server is configured incorrectly. Your stylesheet is being served as text/plain, and not text/css thus some browsers are not treating it as a style sheet.. i just did a quick test, copying leslie's code and css and loaded it on my server - and it

Re: [WSG] ID conflicts

2005-04-04 Thread tee
Thank you everyone! The conflict solved after I change it to class. your english is great. even those of us that grew up on the language abuse it with regularity. Diona, I was just being lame ;) Once I get myself comfortable in this list, I probably will make no apology for my English lol. my

Re: [WSG] Really strange results

2005-04-04 Thread Leslie Riggs
Thanks to all - the hosting provider confirmed that the web server was incorrectly configured; it's an older one. The site will go live on a newer, properly configured server. I can now sleep happythanks again, everyone. Leslie Riggs scott parsons wrote: The easy answer is that your server