[WSG] Drop Down Menu Hack for IE

2005-04-19 Thread Joshua Leung
Hi all, i am working on a drop down menu and can get it working fine in Firefox 1.0 but not in Internet Explorer. I followed the example seen on alistapart here: http://www.alistapart.com/articles/horizdropdowns/ I cannot seem to isolate the IE Hack to just work on my menu DIV, and not work

[WSG] Disjointed Rollovers in css

2005-04-19 Thread jackie reid
Hi group i would like to be able to make a disjointed rollover in css, you know rollover the text and the image nearby changes colour or whatever. is there a tutorial out there that anyone has seen or used that may help me achieve this. cheers Jackie

Re: [WSG] Drop Down Menu Hack for IE

2005-04-19 Thread Bert Doorn
G'day I cannot seem to isolate the IE Hack to just work on my menu DIV, and not work on the whole page. Suggest you validate and fix the xhtml, then check for cascading issues. With invalid xhtml it's anyone's guess what a browser will do. Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design

Re: [WSG] Drop Down Menu Hack for IE

2005-04-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I think that is the same problem of hybrid dropdown CSS you can fix it with javascript function http://www.alistapart.com/articles/hybrid/ cheers Daniel http://www.gizax.it Joshua Leung wrote: Hi all, i am working on a drop down menu and can get it working fine in Firefox 1.0 but not in Internet

[WSG] FYI New WSG jobs section

2005-04-19 Thread Neerav
Moderators I take it that the appearance of http://webstandardsgroup.org/resources/jobs.cfm means that list members can post webstandards postions they know about there? Would this extend to the reverse eg: allowing people who are available for contracts/jobs to list themselves? Or do people

[WSG] Blockquote or Q?

2005-04-19 Thread Cole Kuryakin - x7m
Hi everyone. I'm working on a site that contains 1 boxed quote per page. By boxed, I mean there's a red border that encloses the quote. These aren't famouse quotes - or anything particulary special -just quotes from people who have read the pre-release of a new book. So, semantically

Re: [WSG] FYI New WSG jobs section

2005-04-19 Thread Alan Trick
One question I wheather or not out-of-country people are allowed to apply for these jobs. Max Design is pretty upfront about Australia only, but I'm not sure about the other one. Being from Canada I would like to see something around here that wasn't Australia only. Why do all the good web

Re: [WSG] Site Review Please

2005-04-19 Thread David McKinnon
Hi Levi, Just looking through the list and saw that you didn't get many replies, so I thought I'd have a shot. You might not have got much of an answer because there's not much to say. My first impression is that there's not much on the site to draw me in or make me want to come back, that may

Re: [WSG] Blockquote or Q?

2005-04-19 Thread Lea de Groot
On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:40:53 +0800, Cole Kuryakin - x7m wrote: So, semantically speaking, should I be using Blockquote or Q tags? Blockquote, I beleive - you're correct in that q is meant for inline eg psome text qwhat he said/q more text./p I normally start my css file with * { margin: 0;

Re: [WSG] FYI New WSG jobs section

2005-04-19 Thread russ - maxdesign
I completely agree Alan. This is an international list. I am hoping to see a thriving list of jobs soon with all sorts of positions and countries. The ball is (almost) in your court. Well, it will be very soon when Peter gets another bit of time to set it up for all users. Until then, send any

Re: [WSG] FYI New WSG jobs section

2005-04-19 Thread Jan Brasna
Russ, is it (strictly) only about web deign positions, or someone can also post an ad related to the whole web design business (eg. sales managers for a WD company etc.)? Thanks. -- Jan Brasna aka JohnyB :: www.alphanumeric.cz | www.janbrasna.com

Re: [WSG] Site Review Please

2005-04-19 Thread Kvnmcwebn
The modular interface on top is kind of cool. To me it feels like the whole thing should be certered with a black background. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for

Re: [WSG] Blockquote or Q?

2005-04-19 Thread Alan Trick
In writing (like not-web writing) there is a thing were quotes that are just are just a few lines are written in the normal flow of the text; however, if a quote is more than 3-4 lines it is separate and indented (about .5' on each side, but it depends on whose rules you use). Anyways that is

Re: [WSG] FYI New WSG jobs section

2005-04-19 Thread russ - maxdesign
I guess it is up to the WSG members to think about. The jobs section is definitely NOT for people advertising themselves as available - it is for positions vacant. I do not think it is relevant to post jobs related to SELLING web services, but it is definitely relevant for anything related to

[WSG] is an empty href value valid

2005-04-19 Thread Alan Trick
If I want a link that points to whatever page i am alread at (without any querystrings I can use a href='' (for example, I'm at index.php?start=10 and I want to go to index.php) Is this allowed? Alan ** The discussion list for

RE: [WSG] Blockquote or Q?

2005-04-19 Thread Hugues Brunelle
Hi Cole, Blockquote for sure, and like Alan suggest, make use of normal tags inside. And let me give you a nice trick to insert language specific quotemarks : If you declare the language in your HTML tag likehtml lang="fr-ca" ... you can define inside your CSS what kind of quote mark to

Re: [WSG] is an empty href value valid

2005-04-19 Thread Brian Cummiskey
Alan Trick wrote: If I want a link that points to whatever page i am alread at (without any querystrings I can use a href='' (for example, I'm at index.php?start=10 and I want to go to index.php) Is this allowed? Not sure, but, why not just use a href=?= $PHP_SELF; ?

RE: [WSG] is an empty href value valid

2005-04-19 Thread Patrick Lauke
Alan Trick If I want a link that points to whatever page i am alread at (without any querystrings I can use a href='' (for example, I'm at index.php?start=10 and I want to go to index.php) Is this allowed? From the Uniform Resource Identifiers (URI): Generic Syntax RFC:

RE: [WSG] is an empty href value valid

2005-04-19 Thread Patrick Lauke
Brian Cummiskey Not sure, but, why not just use a href=?= $PHP_SELF; ? Ouch...I thought nobody used short-tags anymore because of the kludgey workaround required when using XML declarations... Patrick Patrick H. Lauke Webmaster / University of Salford

RE: [WSG] FYI New WSG jobs section

2005-04-19 Thread Drake, Ted C.
How do you post a job opening in this site? I looked for a button or link and didn't see anything. They are still looking for someone to replace me at my old job in San Diego Ted Drake www.tdrake.net ** The discussion list for

Re: [WSG] is an empty href value valid

2005-04-19 Thread Stefan
On 4/19/05, Patrick Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brian Cummiskey Not sure, but, why not just use a href=?= $PHP_SELF; ? Ouch...I thought nobody used short-tags anymore because of the kludgey workaround required when using XML declarations... Patrick

[WSG] Firefox 1.0.3

2005-04-19 Thread Ian Fenn
Hello, Has anyone else noticed any issues with their standards-compliant websites and the new Firefox 1.0.3? One of my client sites which looked great in Firefox up to v1.0.2 suddenly looks a bit strange. The most significant difference is that background images inserted through the css do not

Re: [WSG] is an empty href value valid

2005-04-19 Thread Stefan Lemmen
oops send it twice.. On 4/19/05, Stefan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/19/05, Patrick Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brian Cummiskey Not sure, but, why not just use a href=?= $PHP_SELF; ? Ouch...I thought nobody used short-tags anymore because of the kludgey workaround required when

Re[2]: [WSG] Blockquote or Q?

2005-04-19 Thread Martin Heiden
Hugues, HB Blockquote for sure, and like Alan suggest, make use of normal tags inside. HB And let me give you a nice trick to insert language specific quotemarks : HB If you declare the language in your HTML tag like html lang=fr-ca ... HB you can define inside your CSS what kind of quote mark to

[WSG] problem with more nifty corners

2005-04-19 Thread Drake, Ted C.
Hi All If you haven't tried the more nifty corners approach to rounded corners, it's well ... pretty nifty. http://pro.html.it/articoli/id_599/idcat_31/pro.html I am having a problem and I'm wondering if anyone else has seen the same and fixed it. On some of my divs, I have an

RE: Re[2]: [WSG] Blockquote or Q?

2005-04-19 Thread Hugues Brunelle
You're right. And I would not call any fixes with javascript. So like everything, you can decide to use these CSS declarations or not :) Hugues -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Heiden Sent: April 19, 2005 09:59 To: Hugues Brunelle

OT Re: [WSG] UTF-8

2005-04-19 Thread Jan Brasna
PPS. This is a good test to see if the WSG mail system can handle UTF-8 AFAIK å is Latin1 character (Scandinavian), so no need for UTF here. -- Jan Brasna aka JohnyB :: www.alphanumeric.cz | www.janbrasna.com ** The discussion list for

RE: [WSG] UTF-8 (was: Quirks mode vs Standards mode)

2005-04-19 Thread Richard Ishida
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Jackson Sent: 19 April 2005 17:12 ... I try to avoid entities with exception for ' You're right. If you're using UTF-8 you only need to encode the characters that are special in HTML/XHTML/XML (, and ). Using

RE: OT Re: [WSG] UTF-8

2005-04-19 Thread Richard Ishida
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jan Brasna Sent: 19 April 2005 17:29 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: OT Re: [WSG] UTF-8 PPS. This is a good test to see if the WSG mail system can handle UTF-8 AFAIK å is Latin1

Re: OT Re: [WSG] UTF-8

2005-04-19 Thread Jan Brasna
Yes, but the bytes used in ISO 8859-1 (Latin1) or Windows code page and those usef for UTF-8 are different. Sure, however the mail came in Latin1 (see the headers), so I just want to comment that it won't show the difference. -- Jan Brasna aka JohnyB :: www.alphanumeric.cz | www.janbrasna.com

Re: [WSG] UTF-8 (was: Quirks mode vs Standards mode)

2005-04-19 Thread Gene Falck
Hi Dean, You wrote: ... Norwenglish lines of text into numeric entities (UTF-8) where needed. What characters needs encoding into numeric entities when using UTF-8? I try to avoid entities with exception for ' It is a small nuisance, of course. I do use them when I type (US English qwertyuiop

Re: [WSG] UTF-8

2005-04-19 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Dean Jackson wrote: The only time I use them is when I'm on a keyboard/system where I don't know how to enter the character, such as å. I'd type aring; in this case. PS. Hopefully the W3C i18n guru Richard is listening and will tell everyone if I'm wrong. I'll second that... Can someone actually

Re: [WSG] UTF-8

2005-04-19 Thread Jan Brasna
- Half of the Norwegian sites I visit in a day are full of question-marks--until I actively change encoding, and change it again, and again... Hmm, we here in CZ use Latin2 or CP1250, everyone uses proper charset headers, so no problem with this. -- Jan Brasna aka JohnyB :: www.alphanumeric.cz |

Re: [WSG] UTF-8

2005-04-19 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Jan Brasna wrote: - Half of the Norwegian sites I visit in a day are full of question-marks--until I actively change encoding, and change it again, and again... Hmm, we here in CZ use Latin2 or CP1250, everyone uses proper charset headers, so no problem with this. You hit one of the usual

RE: [WSG] UTF-8 (was: Quirks mode vs Standards mode)

2005-04-19 Thread Richard Ishida
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gene Falck Sent: 19 April 2005 18:49 ... Does anyone have a good quick reference as to which characters are good on UTF-8? How about a faster or easier way to type them in? FWIW you may find this useful for Latin characters:

[WSG] LOC new release

2005-04-19 Thread Douglas Clifton
The US Library of Congress (LOC) has today released the first of a series of upgrades to their Web site. As you will see if you visit: http://www.loc.gov/ The new design uses tableless layout, full use of CSS, XHTML and improved usability, accessibility and aesthetics. I sent them an email

RE: [WSG] LOC new release - standards or looks?

2005-04-19 Thread Paul Bennett
Thanks for the heads up Doug, This is great news and good to see that developers are really picking up on standards compliant design and working that into projects of this scale. The site does not yetvalidate and the encoded ampersands are a big issue in this (in fact the only issue on

Re: [WSG] Blockquote or Q?

2005-04-19 Thread Ben Hamilton
On 4/19/05, Alan Trick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyways that is what blockquote was meant to refer to. I your situation I would use div id='sidebar' blockquote pI am seldom attracted to books of this genre.p pThis author was recommended by a friend, and I couldn't put it

Re: [WSG] Disjointed Rollovers in css

2005-04-19 Thread Peter Ottery
Jackie wrote: i would like to be able to make a disjointed rollover in css, you know rollover the text and the image nearby changes colour or whatever. Hi Jackie, I think youre after something like this (on eric meyer's site): http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/css/edge/popups/demo2.html (mouseover

Re: [WSG] Disjointed Rollovers in css

2005-04-19 Thread Thierry Koblentz
jackie reid wrote: is there a tutorial out there that anyone has seen or used that may help me achieve this. Hi Jackie, This may help you: http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/css%20pop%20ups/ HTH, Thierry | http://www.TJKDesign.com ** The

[WSG] stopping float covering other content when container too small

2005-04-19 Thread Neerav
Hi Any ideas how to stop a floated google ad from covering content when the container div its in has too short a height ? eg: the 2nd post at http://www.bhatt.id.au/blog/ whose summary is shorter than the height of the ad, causing the ad to cover part of the older post below thanks -- Neerav

Re: [WSG] Blockquote or Q?

2005-04-19 Thread Cole Kuryakin - x7m
Hughes - That is a neat trick. Thanks for sharing! Cole - Original Message - From: Hugues Brunelle To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 11:11 PM Subject: RE: [WSG] Blockquote or Q? Hi Cole, Blockquote for sure, and like Alan

Re: [WSG] Blockquote or Q?

2005-04-19 Thread Cole Kuryakin - x7m
Alan - Thanks for the clarification. I didn't know that you had to (were suppose to) surround text tags with the blockquote - but now I know! One follow-on: As you could see on the like I provided, I've inserted a bunch of brs within the quote in order to control the line breaks of each quote.