Re: [WSG] Clash of nested lists

2005-06-20 Thread Mordechai Peller
Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media] wrote: The reason I cannot simply put both icons into a tags is that they have to be separated by more than just space for accessibility reasons. So this: a href=/edit title=Editimg src=edit.png alt=Edit //a a href=/delete title=Deleteimg src=delete.png

[WSG] Screenshot tool

2005-06-20 Thread Colm Walsh
I'm trying to locate that really handy site that allow you to preview screenshots of your webpage on all browser/platform combinations. Does anyone know the URL. Regards, Colm

RE: [WSG] Screenshot tool

2005-06-20 Thread Erietta Sapounakis
I think this is what you are looking for: http://www.browsercam.com/ x erietta From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colm Walsh Sent: Monday, 20 June 2005 3:44 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Screenshot tool I'm trying to locate

Re: [WSG] Screenshot tool

2005-06-20 Thread Mark Stanton
www.browsercam.com On 6/20/05, Colm Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to locate that really handy site that allow you to preview screenshots of your webpage on all browser/platform combinations. Does anyone know the URL. Regards, Colm -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty Ltd

Re: [WSG] Screenshot tool

2005-06-20 Thread John Horner
You've already got the answer, but I just wanted to note that: all browser/platform combinations. is a bit optimistic! All? Have You Validated Your Code? John Horner(+612 / 02) 8333 3488

Re: [WSG] Screenshot tool

2005-06-20 Thread Jose Florido
Hi! Try http://www.browsershots.org/it'san app similar to browsercam but it's free :) Regards -- Jose Florido www.avidos.net - Original Message - From: Colm Walsh To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 7:43 AM Subject: [WSG] Screenshot tool

Re: [WSG] Screenshot tool

2005-06-20 Thread Neerav
Thanks Jose www.browsershots.org looks like a very useful service -- Neerav Bhatt http://www.bhatt.id.au Need a Sydney based web standards contractor? You need my services. Recent projects for iFocus, Glassonion, Freshweb, Cogentis http://www.bhatt.id.au/blog/ - Ramblings Thoughts

RE: [WSG] Clash of nested lists

2005-06-20 Thread Josh Rose
If you aren't going to use images nested in a tags for accessibility, why aren't you going to use a form? Surely the images are just a way of making the site look better, or appeal to the majority of users? I'm not sure what the page is for, but if you had a list of say 25 items, and I only

[WSG] CDATA

2005-06-20 Thread Roberto Gorjão
Hello, I know that CDATA was discussed just some days ago, but I'm still in doubt... Is there the need to use it with the transitional XHTML DTD? Does anybody know if it really functions when surrounded by comment tags? Because the W3C recommendation does not mention them. Thank you.

Re: [WSG] CDATA

2005-06-20 Thread Roberto Gorjão
P.S.: I’m sorry… I was referring myself to style and script declarations like this one: style type=text/css /*![CDATA[*/ @import CSS/mainStyles.css; /*]]*/ /style --- Roberto Gorjão wrote: Hello, I know that CDATA was discussed just some days ago, but I'm still in

RE: [WSG] Class Discusion: Centering a Fixed Width Layout

2005-06-20 Thread Mike Foskett
You might find this useful to look at: http://www.websemantics.co.uk/tutorials/useful_css_snippets/#leveller Gives light detail on why certain settings are used. The latest version: http://www.websemantics.co.uk/tutorials/useful_css_snippets/#levellerupdate It requires text-align:center adding

RE: [WSG] CDATA

2005-06-20 Thread Tatham Oddie
Roberto, The comment structure you are talking about (/**/) is a CSS comment, and has not effect on the XML document. In your example the validator will see the CDATA as containing: */ @import CSS/mainStyles.css; /* The only characters in the style block not enclosed

[WSG] page layout problems in IE

2005-06-20 Thread Kara Spellman
Hi, I'm new to CSS and this list so bare with me please. My test layout works great in Safari 2.0 and Mozilla 1.7 both for the Mac. However, in IE 5.2.3 (Mac) the layout looks very disjointed. My PC is currently being repaired but the last time I checked It looked disjointed in IE 6.0.2

Re: [WSG] Clash of nested lists

2005-06-20 Thread Ben Curtis
Here the problem though: I want to display a couple of icons infront of each of the folders (Edit, Delete, ...). So my list actually looks like this: - Edit Delete Folder One - Edit Delete Subfolder One - Edit Delete Subfolder Two - Edit Delete Folder Two - Edit Delete Folder Three

[WSG] question about scope vs headers

2005-06-20 Thread Drake, Ted C.
I've got a question about using th scope=col vs. using id/headers= as mentioned in the book: Web Standards Solutions: The Markup and Style Handbook by Dan Cederholm. Does a screen reader interpret the table with scope the same way as a table with headers=? Can you combine the two or will they

RE: [WSG] Class Discusion: Centering a Fixed Width Layout

2005-06-20 Thread standards
Hi Mike, Great set of CSS code snippets and explanations! However, there is one declaration that suggests using margin: 0 auto in the body rule, which supposedly center-aligns the webpage in the browser. However, testing reveals that it left-aligns the page, but placing this declaration in a

Re: [WSG] Class Discusion: Centering a Fixed Width Layout

2005-06-20 Thread Luc
Good evening [EMAIL PROTECTED], It was foretold that on 20-6-2005 @ 13:32:14 GMT-0500 (CDT) (which was 20:32:14 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] would write: snipped a bit swc However, there is one swc declaration that suggests using margin: 0 auto in the body rule, which swc supposedly

Re: [WSG] Clash of nested lists

2005-06-20 Thread Terrence Wood
There are benefits for all users stemming from Fitt's law (increased acquirable targets) and Hick's law (reduced complexity) using a form for file/folder lists. I have a file browser type example at http://dev.funkive.com/tests/jstest.php which works in FF and Safari (yet to be stressed

Re: [WSG] question about scope vs headers

2005-06-20 Thread russ - maxdesign
Does a screen reader interpret the table with scope the same way as a table with headers=? Hi Ted, What a timely question! The short answer is that it depends on the device. In JAWS 5 and 6, for example, scope is not treated in the same way. It does not tie the header to the data cell in

[WSG] Dumbing Down Validation in WCAG

2005-06-20 Thread Steven Clark
Has everyone read Gez Lemon's post on Validity and Accessibility? http://juicystudio.com/article/validity-accessibility.php Validation got moved down from level 1 to level 2 in the WCAG... Steven Clark Interface Designer Norty Pig (Hobart) http://www.nortypig.com http://www.pigwork.info

[WSG] Web Standards Expert - Government of Victoria

2005-06-20 Thread Jason Harrop
Just to inform anyone who may be interested that the above position is currently open. Its a great opportunity to influence the implementation of W3C and other standards across hundreds of Victorian Government web sites. This post has been approved by list moderators and has been allowed as a

Re: [WSG] Dumbing Down Validation in WCAG

2005-06-20 Thread Geoff Deering
Steven Clark wrote: Has everyone read Gez Lemon's post on Validity and Accessibility? http://juicystudio.com/article/validity-accessibility.php Validation got moved down from level 1 to level 2 in the WCAG... Steven Clark I understand why it was given P2 status in WCAG 1.0, as that was

RE: [WSG] Clash of nested lists

2005-06-20 Thread Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media]
-Original Message- From: Ben Curtis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 21 June 2005 2:47 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Clash of nested lists Here the problem though: I want to display a couple of icons infront of each of the folders (Edit,

RE: [WSG] Clash of nested lists

2005-06-20 Thread Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media]
-Original Message- From: Josh Rose [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 20 June 2005 9:48 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] Clash of nested lists I'm not sure what the page is for, but if you had a list of say 25 items, and I only wanted 10 of them, I'd need

Re: [WSG] Clash of nested lists

2005-06-20 Thread Terrence Wood
Clearly you have a good idea of what your user needs are, and by the sounds of it they won't be running around checking if your site passes some automated validation for accessibility. Build it so it works when you point and click if that is what your users need. Who cares if it passes WACG

[WSG] Styling forms inside a horizontal navigation bar

2005-06-20 Thread Anura Samara
I'm trying to get a search form to appear neatly within a horizontal navigation bar. Here's my test page so far == http://www.thesamaras.com/horiz/horiz_form.htm At the moment, the only way I can get this to work is to float the form within the containing div. I've noticed that IE and others seem