Re: [WSG] Website Directory Structure - Best Practice

2006-03-19 Thread Daniel Nitsche
Although there are some good tips in this thread, I'd be more worried about how the user is going to see the addresses, rather than how we structure our filesystems :)Some things that bug me about URIs: page-name.some-technologyWhy does the user care if it's a php, html, asp or whatever file?

RE: [WSG] Website Directory Structure - Best Practice

2006-03-19 Thread Paul Bennett
I smell troll ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **

Re: [WSG] Website Directory Structure - Best Practice

2006-03-19 Thread russ - maxdesign
I smell troll here's me showing my greeny status again... ;) What do they mean when they mean when they say that.. :( Someone who posts controversial or provocative messages in a deliberate attempt to provoke flames. Normally young and male, as surprising as that sounds ;)

Re: [WSG] Website Directory Structure - Best Practice

2006-03-19 Thread Artemis
Original Message From: Daniel Nitsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re:[WSG] Website Directory Structure - Best Practice Date: 3/19/2006 14:55 subdomains - avoid if possible (this will probably be contentious :)) Yes you are right... using a

Re: [WSG] Website Directory Structure - Best Practice

2006-03-19 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Herrod, Lisa wrote: here's me showing my greeny status again... ;) What do they mean when they mean when they say that.. :( -Original Message- From: Paul Bennett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I smell troll http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll -- Patrick H. Lauke

RE: [WSG] Website Directory Structure - Best Practice

2006-03-19 Thread Paul Bennett
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll :) Tip (to pay for this OT post): Web developer resource list: http://www.listible.com/list/online-tools2C-generators2C-checkers -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Herrod, Lisa Sent: Monday,

Re: [WSG] Website Directory Structure - Best Practice

2006-03-19 Thread Lea de Groot
Herrod, Lisa wrote: here's me showing my greeny status again... ;) What do they mean when they mean when they say that.. :( From http://www.google.com/search?q=define:troll a newsgroup post that is deliberately incorrect, intended to provoke readers; or a person who makes such a post Close

Re: [WSG] Website Directory Structure - Best Practice

2006-03-19 Thread Lachlan Hunt
Lea de Groot wrote: * the page-name.some-technology, in implimentation. I tend to end all my pages in html no matter what I am using server side because a) it says 'webpage' and Then it adds 5 unnecessary characters to the end of the URI that serve no real purpose. I don't like including

Re: [WSG] Website Directory Structure - Best Practice

2006-03-19 Thread Richard Czeiger
I think this article pretty much cover it and seems to be the 'best practice' method. http://www.alistapart.com/articles/urls/ This accommodates eliminating the extension - which would please our Grandaddy Tim Berners-Lee http://www.w3.org/Provider/Style/URI as well as avoids dumping

Re: [WSG] Website Directory Structure - Best Practice

2006-03-19 Thread Lea de Groot
Lachlan Hunt wrote: What's flaky about it? Apache MultiViews is the easiest way to not require file extensions for static files, with the added advantage of making content negotiation extremely easy to do. The implementation, I should have said :) As you pointed out, IE doesn't cache

Re: [WSG] Website Directory Structure - Best Practice

2006-03-19 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
To play a bit of devil's advocate here... Lea de Groot wrote: 5 chars doesnt worry me when it is so clearly a usability aid to say 'web page' to the user constantly; so clearly...any evidence? to Joe Public who is savvy enough to look at the URI they are clicking on, the two things seem

[WSG] Certified Usable

2006-03-19 Thread Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media]
Sydney-based Usability company PTG has made the claim that they can certify the usability of their websites: http://www.usabilitynews.com/news/article3005.asp In an article on the AIMIA website, Craig Errey, manager of PTG, says we're apparently the first group, worldwide, who can confidently

Re: [WSG] Certified Usable

2006-03-19 Thread Robbie Shepherd
its got the foetid, rotting stench of marketing ploy all over it. The front page of their site contains 20 validation errors. The image link in the left sidebar doesn't have title attributes (thought that would have been required? or at least best practice for 100% usable site?) Disabling

Re: [WSG] Certified Usable

2006-03-19 Thread Mike Brown
Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media] wrote: Sydney-based Usability company PTG has made the claim that they can certify the usability of their websites: http://www.usabilitynews.com/news/article3005.asp In an article on the AIMIA website, Craig Errey, manager of PTG, says we're apparently the

[WSG] IE hacking.

2006-03-19 Thread Alastair Steel
Hi all, We are an open source based software development company who deal mostly with SME businesses. We write mostly to the standards for CSS2 and deploy with Firefox, Mozilla or Safari. Not having to hack everything for IE has meant we can develop faster and cheaper. We now have a potential

Re: [WSG] IE hacking.

2006-03-19 Thread Laurie Savage
A little OT here, but 1) the client is always right seems a good place to start with a POTENTIAL client, and 2) Most people use IE and see no earthly reason not to, no matter what our opinion of it. Your customers are not web designers and are quite reasonably uninterested in standards or

Re: [WSG] IE hacking.

2006-03-19 Thread Lachlan Hunt
Alastair Steel wrote: We are an open source based software development company who deal mostly with SME businesses. We write mostly to the standards for CSS2 and deploy with Firefox, Mozilla or Safari. Not having to hack everything for IE has meant we can develop faster and cheaper. Do you

Re: [WSG] Certified Usable

2006-03-19 Thread Steve Olive
On 20/03/2006, at 2:06 PM, Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media] wrote: Sydney-based Usability company PTG has made the claim that they can certify the usability of their websites: http://www.usabilitynews.com/news/article3005.asp User-friendly, that's something different. And in my opinion

Re: [WSG] Certified Usable

2006-03-19 Thread Kay Smoljak
On 3/20/06, Steve Olive [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Their page is generated from the Shado CMS built by Straker Interactive Ltd so I assume getting real WAI validation would be nearly impossible for their own web site. Just a quick note: I've played a little with Shado CMS and I'm fairly certain

Re: [WSG] Certified Usable

2006-03-19 Thread Lachlan Hunt
Steve Olive wrote: On 20/03/2006, at 2:06 PM, Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media] wrote: Sydney-based Usability company PTG has made the claim that they can certify the usability of their websites: http://www.usabilitynews.com/news/article3005.asp I quickly validated their page with HTML Tidy

Re: [WSG] Certified Usable

2006-03-19 Thread Ray Cauchi
Reminds me of McDonalds trademarking the '100% Australian Beef' thing... did you trust them? At 02:06 PM 20/03/2006, you wrote: Sydney-based Usability company PTG has made the claim that they can certify the usability of their websites: http://www.usabilitynews.com/news/article3005.asp In

Re: [WSG] Certified Usable

2006-03-19 Thread Mark Stanton
Disclaimer: my company Gruden, is partnered with PTG. We've enjoyed working with them for a number of years and I think the results have been good. Anyway enough of that rubbish. I don't really know much about Certified Usable so I won't way into that debate - maybe someone from PTG could jump on